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Wow, cool stuff, thanks.

/Former Smiths fan, became happy, now avoid Smiths, Cure, Ministry, Nirvana or any other mentally farked music if at all possible.

I've always dug that effect.

Love that song.

Impressive, but is it really as good as the t.a.t.u. version?

The fact that I lack the skill to do that makes me cry and I want to die.

It's actually not so hard to play if you have the right effects, but it remains one of the most interesting phrases in rock music to this day. Serious innovation, talent, and drugs probably had a factor in the original song.

I seem to remember Marr had several amps all rigged up with the same tremolo settings pulsing in the studio to make this happen back in the pre Pro-Tools days.

There are so many options today to the bedroom musician, it's hard to believe someone will come up with another comparable musical/effect achievement, but I'm certain they will.

As long as it's more like this than Cher's "Believe!"

Nice work there, musician guy!

PC LOAD LETTER: mentally farked

how is their music mentally farked?

Godzilla: I seem to remember Marr had several amps all rigged up with the same tremolo settings pulsing in the studio to make this happen back in the pre Pro-Tools days.

Actually, what the guy does, a standard drum machine and compressor, is the old school spirit. Doesn't take ProTools at all to achieve the effect. Plus doing it this way makes it easy to reproduce life

If Johnny Marr sees this he's going to hate himself for not thinking of it back when they recorded the song. Instead he did it in a really complicated time consuming way.

PC LOAD LETTER: Wow, cool stuff, thanks.

/Former Smiths fan, became happy, now avoid Smiths, Cure, Ministry, Nirvana or any other mentally farked music if at all possible.

"Mentally farked"? What are you playing at? This is an example of mentally farked music:



The stuff was pretty top notch. +1, Subby and the guy who made the video.

/Takes me back.

sweet. nice editing.
not that I will try it, but it is neat to see it done like that.

/clutter on the floor

Yes, but can he play it on Guitar Hero?

/end sarcasm
//love that song soooo much

nicely done

sweet farking Ricky

i wanna play it

Fraggler: The fact that I lack the skill to do that makes me cry and I want to die.

WINNER

Is it weird that I don't think Morrissey is emotional enough when he sings that song? His voice always sounds like runny eggs to me.

"bad posture" at 3:03
LOL

/(Re)Downloading the original now.
//Outfarkingstanding song.

Actually,two years before the Smiths released "How Soon Is Now?"--
Midnight Oil recorded a song called "Only The Strong" which has the exact same super deep shimmering vibrato effect.("vibrato" and "tremolo" are different,vibrato is pitch and tremolo is volume)

Here is Marr:

Marr gave the following account to Guitar Player magazine in 1990:

"The vibrato sound is f*cking incredible, and it took a long time. I put down the rhythm track on an Epiphone Casino through a Fender Twin Reverb without vibrato. Then we played the track back through four old Twins, one on each side. We had to keep all the amps vibrating in time to the track and each other, so we had to keep stopping and starting the track, recording it in 10-second bursts... We did it in three passes through a harmonizer, set to some weird interval, like a sixth. There was a different harmonization for each pass. For the line in harmonics, I retuned the guitar so that I could play it all at the 12th fret with natural harmonics. It's doubled several times."

I cried.

Did I mention I cried?

will have to try that on cigar box guitar now...

Hello, $3500 guitar.

/weeps

Hey Shane, I was playing my homemade four sting through a VOX with tremolo last night and thought about making a video...

CCR "Midnight Special" and "Born on the Bayoo"

craigdamage: Here is Marr:

Marr gave the following account to Guitar Player magazine in 1990:

"The vibrato sound is f*cking incredible, and it took a long time. I put down the rhythm track on an Epiphone Casino through a Fender Twin Reverb without vibrato. Then we played the track back through four old Twins, one on each side. We had to keep all the amps vibrating in time to the track and each other, so we had to keep stopping and starting the track, recording it in 10-second bursts... We did it in three passes through a harmonizer, set to some weird interval, like a sixth. There was a different harmonization for each pass. For the line in harmonics, I retuned the guitar so that I could play it all at the 12th fret with natural harmonics. It's doubled several times."

Well at least it wasn't easy creating the art. I knew there was something crazy about the "Waaaa-eeeeew" lead. Open-chord harmonics... nice.

Great link, subby and great job by PrimroseUK

Fraggler: The fact that I lack the skill to do that makes me cry and I want to die.

Just shut your mouth.

Loved watching that and I don't even play guitar.

/always liked that tune, too

Uncle_Slacker: Hey Shane, I was playing my homemade four sting through a VOX with tremolo last night and thought about making a video...

CCR "Midnight Special" and "Born on the Bayoo"

hot damn, I wanna hear that!!!!

Kevin5280: Impressive, but is it really as good as the t.a.t.u. version?

Whoa whoa whoa there... hang on a second. This can't be...

* checks youtube *

OMG what is this blasphemy!!

Flab: Kevin5280: Impressive, but is it really as good as the t.a.t.u. version?

Whoa whoa whoa there... hang on a second. This can't be...

* checks youtube *

OMG what is this blasphemy!!

Search for Love Spit Love's version too

/I kinda like it

craigdamage: Marr gave the following account to Guitar Player magazine in 1990:

"The vibrato sound is f*cking incredible, and it took a long time. I put down the rhythm track on an Epiphone Casino through a Fender Twin Reverb without vibrato. Then we played the track back through four old Twins, one on each side. We had to keep all the amps vibrating in time to the track and each other, so we had to keep stopping and starting the track, recording it in 10-second bursts... We did it in three passes through a harmonizer, set to some weird interval, like a sixth. There was a different harmonization for each pass. For the line in harmonics, I retuned the guitar so that I could play it all at the 12th fret with natural harmonics. It's doubled several times."

Awesome just reading what all he had to go through just to get the effect.

What do I win if I can play it?

Nice guitar, I have a Rickenbacker 4003 JetGlo Bass I love playing.

I'm looking to start recording again. I had Cakewalk about 10 years ago and I hated it. It was clunky and complicated. Does anyone have any suggestions on something new? Looking for something reasonably priced.

Kevin5280: Impressive, but is it really as good as the t.a.t.u. version?

NOPE

Nice

drkats: I'm looking to start recording again. I had Cakewalk about 10 years ago and I hated it. It was clunky and complicated. Does anyone have any suggestions on something new? Looking for something reasonably priced.

If you have a Mac, Logic Express is fairly reasonably priced with many nice features. Ableton is easy to use as well, and available for the PC, IIRC. Check out tweakheadz.com for a good comparison between recording software. Some are better for certain styles of music than others.

I run Logic 8, and am extremely happy with it.

drkats:

www.reaper.fm

the most awesomest recording software evar $50

I don't even waste my time fantasizing about Rickenbackers any more.

Way too damn expensive.

Rickenbacker is an asshole company too.
Very arrogant and pushy.
Every time someone puts one of the superb Ric copies (Aria,Ibanez,Greco Electra etc.) on Ebay the jackasses at Rickenbacker force them to be withdrawn over threats of lawsuit.

i loved this

That was frickin' awesome.

He is really talented. Cool stuff.

what?

how the fark?!??!

i have no idea whats going on.

but it was awesome!

I always wondered how that worked. Really cool. Snake River Conspiracy has a pretty cool version out also.

Friggin' sexy ric.

mmmmm

craigdamage
Every time someone puts one of the superb Ric copies (Aria,Ibanez,Greco Electra etc.) on Ebay the jackasses at Rickenbacker force them to be withdrawn over threats of lawsuit.

Like this one? (pops)

I was going to ask how The Smiths managed this live, but a quick search of Youtube reveals they didn't even try -

Link (new window)

But when Morrissey does it solo, they at least attempt the effect:

Link (new window)

I was going to ask how The Smiths managed this live, but a quick search of Youtube reveals they didn't even try -

That's odd - when younger saw The Smiths half a dozen times, and Marr managed a much better approximation of "How Soon Is Now" than that. Bad setup in Spain?

very cool. wish i had that guitar.

Got no flowers for your gun
NO HIPPIE CHICKS
Won't make love to change your mind
NO HIPPIE CHICKS

Well...

kiss..my..grits...

/passes out on the lawn

Hey I didn't know Marr turned out to be a spitting image of Jonathan Winters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlUJfNrdt7U&feature=related

*DROOLS* I want that dude's home recording set-up. Um, except unless he didn't show a keyboard set-up, I'd have to add a Hammond C3>Leslie, piano, Mellotron, MemoryMoog and one of the new digital MiniMoogs.

I'm surprised no one jumped on this:

PC LOAD LETTER: /Former Smiths fan, became happy

To pretend to be happy
Could only be idiocy
La-la-la-la-la-laaaaaa...

I still love The Smiths, one of best bands ever. Morrissey, apart from Viva Hate, not so much.

/Yes, the sun shines out of my behind, thanks for asking

Kevin5280 [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 11:40:14 PM
Impressive, but is it really as good as the t.a.t.u. version?

Wait, step the fark back for a minute. You mean this innovative group of underage lesbians making out in public didn't come up with that?

Listen to some FM pop radio, then come back and listen to that t.a.t.u. version. Yes it's a beautiful landscape seen through a single-color filter, but the essence is still there.

I've not heard of these people before, despite appearing in the same GFPM as Vai's Call It Sleep and I always had to flip past it to get to my beloved tab.

I can't stand the way this dude sings. I would be all for some remakes, although I'm not recommending t.a.t.u. for obvious reasons: they aren't real lesbians and are no longer underage.

Thank you for these comments and thanks to whoever submitted it, much appreciated.