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(Contact Music) Sad It turns out that Pink Floyd's Syd Barrett retired from music after an LSD "explosion" in his head failed to leave him comfortably numb   (contactmusic.com) divider line 71
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puckhead 2008-08-28 02:19:17 PM  
is it 1968 already?

 
FitzShivering 2008-08-28 02:20:31 PM  
Turns out? Didn't we already know this decades ago?

/never read Saucerful of Secrets?

 
Cyberluddite [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 02:25:58 PM  
Was the img1.fark.net tag out on a smoke break or something when you submitted this, Subby?

 
bingethinker [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 02:26:51 PM  
Can we get an Ancient History tag?

/I hear Buddy Holly died in a plane crash.

 
inelegy 2008-08-28 02:27:29 PM  
Nothing against Syd, but his music is really overrated.

/chill out Floyd fanboys, I'm one of you
//I'm just sayin' . . .

 
dj_bigbird [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 02:30:43 PM  
bingethinker: I hear Buddy Holly died in a plane crash.

NO WAI!

 
Silver1973 2008-08-28 02:32:42 PM  
Thanks for the news flash, fatty.

 
Cyberluddite [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 02:34:54 PM  
inelegy: Nothing against Syd, but his music is really overrated.
/chill out Floyd fanboys, I'm one of you


I completely agree.

 
jchic [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 02:40:51 PM  
I was talking about this the other night after we say Dark Side done by Classic Albums Live. (Which was awesome by the way). Syd and Pink Floyd needed to happen this way because if he had held it together and remained a viable member of the band we would not have two of the greatest albums ever.

We'd have a few records of songs about gnomes and faries and crap from a band that few people remember.

 
jonasborg [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 02:47:37 PM  
Pink Floyd peaked right before Dark Side came out. It was best from when Gilmour joined until then. So what was that? Summer of '68-Spring of '73?

 
fappityfappityfap 2008-08-28 02:58:50 PM  
Wish you were here

 
ozone [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 03:30:43 PM  
bingethinker: /I hear Buddy Holly died in a plane crash.

As of today music is dead.

 
rocinante721 2008-08-28 03:31:46 PM  
Cyberluddite: inelegy: Nothing against Syd, but his music is really overrated.
/chill out Floyd fanboys, I'm one of you

I completely agree.


I agree with your complete agreement

 
pizen [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 03:34:21 PM  
My God! We'll have to endure the terrible music of the Big Bopper and the horrible tragedy of his death.

 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 03:41:51 PM  
FitzShivering: Turns out? Didn't we already know this decades ago?

/never read Saucerful of Secrets?


Pink Floyd - Saucerful of Secrets (Popeii Excerpt) Link (new window)

Live at Pompeii is one of the greatest music movies out there. I'd rather watch this than The Wall.

And their music got infinitely better in the 1970s.

 
darkhorse23 [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 03:55:01 PM  
FitzShivering: Turns out? Didn't we already know this decades ago?

Dammit Tinfoil, you beat me to it.

Subby, I knew this in 1969, so did a lot of other people. Welcome to the world.

 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 04:04:55 PM  
Nestea Plunge: Comparing Live in Pompeii to The Wall is like comparing Juno to Cum Swapping Sluts #14.

Profound.

 
BobtheFascist 2008-08-28 04:16:45 PM  
Explosion, huh? I don't suppose that's what they meant when they said LSD opens your mind.

 
gorgor 2008-08-28 04:19:19 PM  
Who?
/wrong band

 
spqr_ca [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 04:25:03 PM  
I can in here to ask the question "Turns out? Did I just previously intuit this?" but I was late to the party. Ah well.

inelegy: Nothing against Syd, but his music is really overrated.

I agree. If Syd hadn't blotto'd his head, Floyd would have been a musical footnote of the 60s and not the influential act it became.

 
spqr_ca [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 04:26:37 PM  
spqr_ca: I can in

I can has English? Sheesh.

 
NightOwl2255 2008-08-28 04:33:11 PM  
That article contained not a morsel of useful information. His sister apparently has no more insight into the mind of Syd Barrett then Joe Blow does.

FTA: "If you're very tired and put a load of acid into the mix you've got chaos haven't you? It was all very nasty but it was inevitable. When you put those three factors together you are going to have an explosion aren't you?"

No, no you aren't. Syd had a mental illness, not a bad trip.

 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 04:37:04 PM  
Shine on you crazy diamond!

 
mahavishnunj 2008-08-28 05:39:02 PM  
no 'newsflash' tag for this?

 
Eddie Hazel 2008-08-28 05:43:22 PM  
Comparing Live in Pompeii to The Wall is like comparing Juno to Cum Swapping Sluts #14.

I agree. The Wall is much better than Live in Pompeii.

 
mahavishnunj 2008-08-28 06:02:15 PM  
Eddie Hazel: I agree. The Wall is much better than Live in Pompeii.

i disagree but your username RULES.

 
barneyfifesbullet 2008-08-28 06:06:20 PM  
Subby thinks Seinfeld is old time TV.

 
Doc Strange 2008-08-28 06:08:52 PM  
are you sure this is Syd's problem?

/Pink Floyd is my favorite band
//Congrats to the subby for pointing out the obvious.

 
craigdamage 2008-08-28 06:19:04 PM  
Nothing against Syd, but his music is really overrated.

that gem of wisdom from inelegy

Really?
"overrated"?

Explain that to:
David Bowie,Nick Drake,XTC,Flaming Lips,Robyn Hitchcock,Julian Cope,Edward Ka-Spel.......etc

All cite Syd as a profound influence.

 
Patterson 2008-08-28 06:22:14 PM  
Despite being a big prog fan, I really never latched on the whole Floyd freakout. I find them to be one of the more overrated bands ever, but I'm sure a few of you are foaming at the mouth with anger, so I'll leave my hate at that. :)

 
initium 2008-08-28 06:22:27 PM  
Wait, he quit?

/News to me
//Always heard they quit picking him up for shows & practices

 
Boris S. Wort [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 06:29:42 PM  
They were an awesome band from March 13th 1966 'til November 29th 1979.

 
carmody 2008-08-28 06:33:06 PM  
Yeah, man. Dylan went electric, too.

 
sewiusproductions 2008-08-28 06:47:43 PM  
Tr0mBoNe: Nestea Plunge: Comparing Live in Pompeii to The Wall is like comparing Juno to Cum Swapping Sluts #14.

Profound.


Not a big fan of Juno either?

 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 06:57:06 PM  
sewiusproductions: Tr0mBoNe: Nestea Plunge: Comparing Live in Pompeii to The Wall is like comparing Juno to Cum Swapping Sluts #14.

Profound.

Not a big fan of Juno either?


Not a big fan of The Wall when Live at Pompeii is on the playbill. And I've never seen Juno. I guess I've seen The Wall and Cum Swapping Sluts #14 a few too many times.

 
MikoSquiz 2008-08-28 07:12:22 PM  
Patterson: Despite being a big prog fan, I really never latched on the whole Floyd freakout. I find them to be one of the more overrated bands ever, but I'm sure a few of you are foaming at the mouth with anger, so I'll leave my hate at that. :)

No, no, no. It's just The Wall and everything after that sucks. They were pretty good before that point, honestly.

 
Moses To Sandy Koufax 2008-08-28 07:20:24 PM  
Newsflash: Neutrons converge into dense singularity, explosion-arity ensues. Further bulletins as events warrant.

 
gbv23 2008-08-28 07:25:27 PM  
Syd had a fairly long career folding napkins after he left the band.

 
phlegmato 2008-08-28 07:45:07 PM  
gorgor: Who?


The band on stage.

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2008-08-28 07:48:36 PM  
I dunno, man...

I'm a big Floyd fan [though it has dimmed slightly in recent years]
and i think that the Barrett days are pretty darn good.
I think they made some of the very best psychadelic/"space rock" of any British or American band in the late 60's.
I'm gonna back Syd up and say he was a good songwriter.
His songs are eccentric, by turns full of whimsy and/or darkness [darkness esp. in his solo work], and also pretty darn catchy in places [ie. "Lucifer Sam"] .
I have "madcap laughs" on cd... it's pretty twisted and weird but very intriguing and a slighty/rather harrowing listen...
i listened to "barrett" once... i thought it wasn't as good...

Sure, he only contributed one song to "saucerful" but he influenced the sound of the album, a further jumping off point from "piper"... it was "the pink floyd SOUND".
i delightful mix between "space rock" [supposedly the floyd thought it was a ridiculous title] / pop / rock / psychadelic / art-rock, etc.

i also like to think that Rick Wright contributed his best stuff to the 67-70 PF years like "Remember a Day", "seesaw", "paintbox", "Summer of 68", etc.
call me crazy, but i think Wright was a better songwriter than Waters in those years...[67-70]
i mean Waters had "take up thy stethescope and walk" [spelling?] which was pretty awful [really, the only BAD song on "piper" next to Barrett's "chapter 24"] and "set the controls" which was ok.. but wasn't great. "granchester meadows" was pretty ok/good.

dare i say that it was very much [songwriting wise]
1. Barrett's and Wright's 'band' in 67/68
2. No-man's land in 68/69 [roger and david coming into their own]
3. Group effort 70-75
4. Domination of Waters 77-1983.

 
mfaby 2008-08-28 08:04:23 PM  
FTFA: '... his sister claims it was his experimentation with acid that turned him into a recluse.'

This is news?

Everyone knew his drug habits lead to mental illness.

 
initium 2008-08-28 08:12:38 PM  
mfaby: FTFA: '... his sister claims it was his experimentation with acid that turned him into a recluse.'

This is news?

Everyone knew his drug habits lead to mental illness.


Quoth:
A Pink Floyd band member who recognized and spoke about Syd's mental illness was Roger Waters. Pink Floyd's bassist Roger Waters said Barrett's use of LSD compounded an existing condition [though schizophrenia researchers now say that people have a biological predisposition to schizophrenia, and that it is triggered by environmental factors and stresses]. Waters told VH-1's Legends in 2002: "There is no doubt those [street drugs] are very bad for schizophrenics ... and there is no doubt that Syd was a schizophrenic."
Source

tl;dr -- LSD doesn't cause mental illness, you've gotta be predisposed to the condition.

/But it'll sure as hell trigger latent problems.
//Not speaking from experience or anything
///Off to drink with this little gnome I know...

 
agentanaranjado 2008-08-28 08:19:38 PM  
inelegy: Nothing against Syd, but his music is really overrated.

/chill out Floyd fanboys, I'm one of you
//I'm just sayin' . . .


Cyberluddite: inelegy: Nothing against Syd, but his music is really overrated.
/chill out Floyd fanboys, I'm one of you

I completely agree.


while animals is my favorite floyd era, are you two out of your minds? syd's contributions to guitar playing in general were phenomenal (although i still like gilmour's bluesy style more), not to mention how utterly biatching his solo albums were ("dark globe" is one of the most haunting songs ever written). to dismiss him as overrated is incredibly disingenuous.

 
inelegy 2008-08-28 08:34:30 PM  
craigdamage: Nothing against Syd, but his music is really overrated.

that gem of wisdom from inelegy

Really?
"overrated"?

Explain that to:
David Bowie,Nick Drake,XTC,Flaming Lips,Robyn Hitchcock,Julian Cope,Edward Ka-Spel.......etc

All cite Syd as a profound influence.


Doesn't mean his music was particularly good. The Sex Pistols where a shiatty joke of a band, but inspired a lot of people to form really great bands.

I'm weary of the pedestal Syd has been put on by pretentious musicians, writers, and stoned-out-of-their-minds Floyd fans.

He was merely OK, not great. His resultant tragedy, much like artists who've died too young, has grossly inflated the true value of his work.

YMMV

/Robin Hitchcock sucks bad. A cut-rate Syd without the myth.
//Andy Partridge FTW!

 
scottycujo 2008-08-28 08:43:59 PM  
ozone: bingethinker: /I hear Buddy Holly died in a plane crash.

As of today music is dead.


Yeah .. someone should write a song about it.

 
skippytheferret 2008-08-28 09:36:07 PM  
Aside from the obvious "No way!?!" said sarcastically. I am wondering why the article included a picture from a Pink Floyd show taken from the post-Roger Waters era?

Syd Barret is an interesting bit of trivia. Not really a musical genius. But Shine On You Crazy Diamonds.

Roreg Waters on the other hand is brilliant. Both with and without Floyd, Amused To Death is an awesome album and highly underrated.

David Gilmour is a fat bloated maggot feasting on the corpse of a long dead giant pink pig.

 
Roto-Rot 2008-08-28 10:38:57 PM  
Roreg's the man!

 
mahavishnunj 2008-08-28 10:39:57 PM  
Third_Uncle_Eno: I dunno, man...

I'm a big Floyd fan [though it has dimmed slightly in recent years]
and i think that the Barrett days are pretty darn good.
I think they made some of the very best psychadelic/"space rock" of any British or American band in the late 60's.
I'm gonna back Syd up and say he was a good songwriter.
His songs are eccentric, by turns full of whimsy and/or darkness [darkness esp. in his solo work], and also pretty darn catchy in places [ie. "Lucifer Sam"] .
I have "madcap laughs" on cd... it's pretty twisted and weird but very intriguing and a slighty/rather harrowing listen...
i listened to "barrett" once... i thought it wasn't as good...

Sure, he only contributed one song to "saucerful" but he influenced the sound of the album, a further jumping off point from "piper"... it was "the pink floyd SOUND".
i delightful mix between "space rock" [supposedly the floyd thought it was a ridiculous title] / pop / rock / psychadelic / art-rock, etc.

i also like to think that Rick Wright contributed his best stuff to the 67-70 PF years like "Remember a Day", "seesaw", "paintbox", "Summer of 68", etc.
call me crazy, but i think Wright was a better songwriter than Waters in those years...[67-70]
i mean Waters had "take up thy stethescope and walk" [spelling?] which was pretty awful [really, the only BAD song on "piper" next to Barrett's "chapter 24"] and "set the controls" which was ok.. but wasn't great. "granchester meadows" was pretty ok/good.

dare i say that it was very much [songwriting wise]
1. Barrett's and Wright's 'band' in 67/68
2. No-man's land in 68/69 [roger and david coming into their own]
3. Group effort 70-75
4. Domination of Waters 77-1983.


wow, i cant disagree with one word of that.

 
MikeLXIII 2008-08-28 11:05:33 PM  
Syd Barrett left Pink Floyd?!?!?! I wonder how they'll do without him?

Hey what's this thing with little letters I'm pushing down? OH MY GOD IT MAKES WORDS COME UP ON THIS LITTLE COLOUR TV HERE!!! I wonder what this little "add comment" button does?

 
EvilElecBlanket [TotalFark] 2008-08-28 11:26:31 PM  
What happened was for the best.

/not for Syd of course
//he should be remembered as a great
///now, put the egos aside so I can give you guys a ton of money and tour, dammit!

 
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