Good to see that they've got message discipline...

I used to have a lot of respect for John McCain, even though we are from two separate parties. The last couple years though, he has just completely pissed me off. John Kerry got tons of shiat for flogging his military service/record, so why hasn't he?

John likes Hillary. I mean he really likes her.

When my Dad was his age..he was somewhat alert and playful also.

Hey, maybe Hillary should become McCain's VP! THAT should please the PUMAs!

Coco LaFemme: I used to have a lot of respect for John McCain, even though we are from two separate parties. The last couple years though, he has just completely pissed me off. John Kerry got tons of shiat for flogging his military service/record, so why hasn't he?

seriously, he has explained the reason himself many many times, and the reason is here, in this thread, somewhere, you just have to look carefully........

I'm so sick of McCain's bullshiat.

And I do mean bullshiat. If he was honest and straightforward with his gripes, I wouldn't mind. But all McCain has been putting out is bullshiat. What is sad about it is I used to actually respect the guy.

hubiestubert: Hey, maybe Hillary should become McCain's VP! THAT should please the PUMAs!

But think of the mess of all those freeper's heads exploding in the voting booth.

OFFICIAL BALLOT Pick one:

[ ] Pro-choice McCain and a Clinton
[ ] Barack bin a Secret Muslim Obama

JohnnyC: I'm so sick of McCain's bullshiat.

And I do mean bullshiat. If he was honest and straightforward with his gripes, I wouldn't mind. But all McCain has been putting out is bullshiat. What is sad about it is I used to actually respect the guy.

Pretty much. His Windsockiness cost me his vote a while back.

I voted for him to get on the ballot in 2000. I was glad to do it too. Not so much now...

Coco LaFemme: I used to have a lot of respect for John McCain, even though we are from two separate parties. The last couple years though, he has just completely pissed me off. John Kerry got tons of shiat for flogging his military service/record, so why hasn't he?

Because he's a Republican.

How dare the subby farking call John McCain out on this. He was a FARKING POW. A POW!! DON'T YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND?! HAVE SOME RESPECT!


.....HE WAS A PRISONER OF WAR, PEOPLE!

Desperation.


Yea, it can pretty much be summed up in that.

Has there been another nom who was ever tarred with 'he didn't show enough respect to the person he beat' .

Or is the respect issue cuz she's a chick?


elitist=uppity
didn't show her enough respect=He done disrespected a white woman!!!

/tarred
//Bugs Bunny for President

Maybe he shold choose Clinton as his running mate.

You notice that the McCain supporters who trip over themselves to shiat on Obama seem rather scarce when these threads pop up?

Mr Logo: Maybe he shold choose Clinton as his running mate.

He needs Joe Lieberman to keep his facts straight;



//never too early for hotlinking

RevMercutio: You notice that the McCain supporters who trip over themselves to shiat on Obama seem rather scarce when these threads pop up?

They have very little to happy about, when McCain/Lieberman is their best bet;

RevMercutio: You notice that the McCain supporters who trip over themselves to shiat on Obama seem rather scarce when these threads pop up?

They're here, you just don't see them. They just like to sit back and watch the Obama worshippers get in a big circle and fellate each other.

And before you have a stroke for me daring to slander the Obama Zombies, I don't support McCain. I would've rather seen a Bill Richardson/Dick Gephardt ticket.

PacManDreaming: RevMercutio: You notice that the McCain supporters who trip over themselves to shiat on Obama seem rather scarce when these threads pop up?

They're here, you just don't see them. They just like to sit back and watch the Obama worshippers get in a big circle and fellate each other.

And before you have a stroke for me daring to slander the Obama Zombies, I don't support McCain. I would've rather seen a Bill Richardson/Dick Gephardt ticket.

Except that these threads are always just insults to McCain, instead of fellating Obama. And more than just "Obama Zombies" insult McCain.

Besides. Fark Independents (TM) and McCain supporters can't shut the hell up. I can't imagine them intentionally keeping their hands away from the keyboard to talk about how inexperienced the ecret muslim messiah is.

PacManDreaming: RevMercutio: You notice that the McCain supporters who trip over themselves to shiat on Obama seem rather scarce when these threads pop up?

They're here, you just don't see them. They just like to sit back and watch the Obama worshippers get in a big circle and fellate each other.

And before you have a stroke for me daring to slander the Obama Zombies, I don't support McCain. I would've rather seen a Bill Richardson/Dick Gephardt ticket.

Ah, another Fark Independent obsessed with blowjob references. That's always new and exciting!

"Hey! These people like Obama! I bet they'd love givin' him a hummer!"

After all, how dare people actually like a candidate.

RevMercutio: PacManDreaming: RevMercutio: You notice that the McCain supporters who trip over themselves to shiat on Obama seem rather scarce when these threads pop up?

They're here, you just don't see them. They just like to sit back and watch the Obama worshippers get in a big circle and fellate each other.

And before you have a stroke for me daring to slander the Obama Zombies, I don't support McCain. I would've rather seen a Bill Richardson/Dick Gephardt ticket.

Ah, another Fark Independent obsessed with blowjob references. That's always new and exciting!

"Hey! These people like Obama! I bet they'd love givin' him a hummer!"

After all, how dare people actually like a candidate.

Hey, it's just like high school, if you say you like someone, people think you must want to blow' em behind the bleachers after cheerleading practice. Buncha biatchy teenage girls.

McCain is the Republican John Kerry.

He's a MAJOR flip-flopper, uncharismatic to the extreme, drags out his war record at every opportunity, has a rich heiress wife...He's EVERYTHING that the Republicans attacked Kerry for. The hypocrisy of the RNC has never been more obvious.

LordJiro: McCain is the Republican John Kerry.

He's a MAJOR flip-flopper, uncharismatic to the extreme, drags out his war record at every opportunity, has a rich heiress wife...He's EVERYTHING that the Republicans attacked Kerry for. The hypocrisy of the RNC has never been more obvious.

McCain does happen to have a slightly more extensive Military record than Kerry. That being said in the end the Fark McCain camp is obviously worried about Biden. The Fark Obama camp seems to be the most optimistic they have been in a couple of weeks. Lets see who McCains Veep is and if Hillary torpedoes Obama. Either way I am voting Barr this time.

McCain is right. He should have picked John Edwards.

Lackofname: Except that these threads are always just insults to McCain, instead of fellating Obama.

I didn't say they were fellating Obama, I said they were fellating each other.

RevMercutio: "Hey! These people like Obama! I bet they'd love givin' him a hummer!"

I'm reasonably sure they would.

FunkOut: Hey, it's just like high school, if you say you like someone, people think you must want to blow' em behind the bleachers after cheerleading practice.

No, it's just funny watching people fall all over themselves for a slick talking politician.

So, what do the three of you think about what Biden said about Obama? Are you going to defend him? Are you gonna question Obama about how he's gonna give us "change we can believe in" when his running mate has been part of the problem in DC longer than McCain has? Let me guess, you're gonna deflect by bagging on me for being an independent because I don't wanna suck up to one of the big two parties like y'all do?

Barack Obama & Joe Biden: Super Geniuses (new window)

PacManDreaming: So, what do the three of you think about what Biden said about Obama? Are you going to defend him? Are you gonna question Obama about how he's gonna give us "change we can believe in" when his running mate has been part of the problem in DC longer than McCain has? Let me guess, you're gonna deflect by bagging on me for being an independent because I don't wanna suck up to one of the big two parties like y'all do?

Nuance and complexity. While I'm not saying that Mr. Obama feels this way about Mr. Biden [or the inverse], there is historical precedence for Presidents disliking or even outright loathing their No. 2s [and the inverse](see Mr. Reagan and Mr. George H.W. Bush for one relatively recent example). Remember, Mr. Biden was running for the same job Mr. Obama is running for. You can't be 100 percent civil against a direct competitor during the competition.

PacManDreaming: So, what do the three of you think about what Biden said about Obama? Are you going to defend him? Are you gonna question Obama about how he's gonna give us "change we can believe in" when his running mate has been part of the problem in DC longer than McCain has? Let me guess, you're gonna deflect by bagging on me for being an independent because I don't wanna suck up to one of the big two parties like y'all do?

I think Biden was campaigning against Obama and he said something that he felt was appropriate last year. I'm shocked that someone would say something negative about someone they were campaigning against.

Why would someone need to defend that? Is it really that absolutely terrible that something said 11 months ago is going to ruin the campaign because Biden stood by a previous statement? Surely there has never been a case in American politics where the President and VP didn't like each other much after the primary process.

No, I'm not going to question Obama about why he is pushing change when Biden has been in Washington for so long. And, that's partially because change involves more than just being new to Washington. It also means new ideas and new leadership. Both of these men will bring different leadership than has been present in recent years (and what is offered by the GOP). You're being disingenuous if you keep using that talking point, because it's the knee-jerk response to whatever his VP was (if it was a washington outsider, you'd be arguing about the extreme lack of experience).

No, I'm not going to deflect for you being independent, but if you find these problems with the Obama campaign...I can't wait to see you flipping out over all the things McCain's VP has said about him and about all the stupid inconsistencies with policy that McCain's VP will bring. I'm sure you'll be just as vocal with the stupid blowjob jokes in those threads too.

For the record, that felt like arguing directly with the NRO article from earlier.

As for "change we can believe in", yeah I'll admit I'm disappointed with (a) more than a few of Mr. Obama's policy reversals and (b) the speed with which he made them, however I am not so disheartened as to not vote for him. I'm a political pragmatist and I take the long view on all political elections. And this election cycle, it's important to me to ask myself this question "Who do I want to make naming the Supreme Court justices that are incontrovertibly gonna need to be named during the next 4 yours" and I find myself answering "Self, the ONLY viable choice is Mr. Obama". For you see, in my view this election is not about what will happen in the next 4 years [although that's very not unimportant], but about the next 40 years. As it stand, the court is only not right-wing dominated as it stands by 1. 1. And the judges aren't growing any younger.

And I hope and fervently want Obama and or Biden will reinforce that point at ever fuuukkkkeeennn opportunity during the next 2 plus months. Every time that there's a camera on them. Every time there's a microphone in their face. Use some of his war chest to hire people to stand on strategic city street corners and scream it through bullhorns. I'd do it for fukkkin free.

"As it stands, the Court is only NOT right-wing dominated by 1."

hot boxing flying daggers: Remember, Mr. Biden was running for the same job Mr. Obama is running for. You can't be 100 percent civil against a direct competitor during the competition.

Yeah, I know.

What I find funny is all the Hillary supporters going ape-shiat because Obama didn't pick her. Biden criticized Obama, sure, but Hillary was downright nasty to Obama. I wouldn't have blamed Obama one bit if he dotted her eyes the first chance he had.

To be honest, though, I figured Obama would've picked Hillary just for the "if you don't vote Obama/Hillary, you're a racist/misogynist" angle. Ultra-PC Lefties would be creaming themselves if they could rub that in everyone's face.

bulldg4life: I'm sure you'll be just as vocal with the stupid blowjob jokes in those threads too.

If he picks Romney, you better believe I'll be there armed with as many stupid blowjob jokes that I can think of.

PacManDreaming: To be honest, though, I figured Obama would've picked Hillary just for the "if you don't vote Obama/Hillary, you're a racist/misogynist" angle. Ultra-PC Lefties would be creaming themselves if they could rub that in everyone's face.

The only people perpetuating that stupid line are right-wing people that figure they can denounce their opponents and somehow validate their dumbass reasons of non-support.

PacManDreaming: Lackofname: Except that these threads are always just insults to McCain, instead of fellating Obama.

I didn't say they were fellating Obama, I said they were fellating each other.

RevMercutio: "Hey! These people like Obama! I bet they'd love givin' him a hummer!"

I'm reasonably sure they would.

FunkOut: Hey, it's just like high school, if you say you like someone, people think you must want to blow' em behind the bleachers after cheerleading practice.

No, it's just funny watching people fall all over themselves for a slick talking politician.

So, what do the three of you think about what Biden said about Obama? Are you going to defend him? Are you gonna question Obama about how he's gonna give us "change we can believe in" when his running mate has been part of the problem in DC longer than McCain has? Let me guess, you're gonna deflect by bagging on me for being an independent because I don't wanna suck up to one of the big two parties like y'all do?

First of all, get off my lawn.

I have been around long enough to remember Nixon, and the simple fact is that candidates in primaries savage each other, then make nice once the nominee is decided. This is how politics works. It sucks, and it turns a lot of people off to the process, but I don't expect it to ever change.

Obama picking an insider as VP may seem to many as contradictory to some. To others, like myself, it appears to be a shrewd move that will increase his chance of being elected. That is the point of this whole exercise. And since the VP is rarely part of the actual policy making procedure, the fact that he seems to go against "change" is irrelevant. After all, you can't really change anything if you don't get yourself elected.

Lastly, those of us who feel that we have been going down a dangerous path as a country over the last 8 years know that we must marginalize the element that has led us down that path. I do not see McCain getting rid of the neocons who have hijacked our government. I believe Obama will. I do not wish to have any kind of sexual intercourse with him, or any of his other supporters. I do not believe that he farts rainbows and unicorns. I agree with most of the things he has proposed, and like what he has to say. If you consider this "falling all over" myself for a slick talking politician, so be it. I used to think that it didn't really matter who the POTUS was either. But after the last 8 years I feel I cannot afford to be so apathetic anymore.

hot boxing flying daggers: Nuance and complexity. While I'm not saying that Mr. Obama feels this way about Mr. Biden [or the inverse], there is historical precedence for Presidents disliking or even outright loathing their No. 2s [and the inverse](see Mr. Reagan and Mr. George H.W. Bush for one relatively recent example). Remember, Mr. Biden was running for the same job Mr. Obama is running for. You can't be 100 percent civil against a direct competitor during the competition.

Didn't Lincoln stack his cabinet with people who hated each other to make them fight among each other instead of backstabbing him?

bulldg4life: PacManDreaming: To be honest, though, I figured Obama would've picked Hillary just for the "if you don't vote Obama/Hillary, you're a racist/misogynist" angle. Ultra-PC Lefties would be creaming themselves if they could rub that in everyone's face.

The only people perpetuating that stupid line are right-wing people that figure they can denounce their opponents and somehow validate their dumbass reasons of non-support.

Acute insights.

bulldg4life: The only people perpetuating that stupid line are right-wing people that figure they can denounce their opponents and somehow validate their dumbass reasons of non-support.

Sorry, but there are a lot of people who believe that. You may not, but others on the left do.

hot boxing flying daggers: As for "change we can believe in", yeah I'll admit I'm disappointed with (a) more than a few of Mr. Obama's policy reversals and (b) the speed with which he made them, however I am not so disheartened as to not vote for him. I'm a political pragmatist and I take the long view on all political elections. And this election cycle, it's important to me to ask myself this question "Who do I want to make naming the Supreme Court justices that are incontrovertibly gonna need to be named during the next 4 yours" and I find myself answering "Self, the ONLY viable choice is Mr. Obama". For you see, in my view this election is not about what will happen in the next 4 years [although that's very not unimportant], but about the next 40 years. As it stand, the court is only not right-wing dominated as it stands by 1. 1. And the judges aren't growing any younger.

And I hope and fervently want Obama and or Biden will reinforce that point at ever fuuukkkkeeennn opportunity during the next 2 plus months. Every time that there's a camera on them. Every time there's a microphone in their face. Use some of his war chest to hire people to stand on strategic city street corners and scream it through bullhorns. I'd do it for fukkkin free.

mmmmmmmmmm!!!

good kool-aid

Mr Logo: hot boxing flying daggers: Nuance and complexity. While I'm not saying that Mr. Obama feels this way about Mr. Biden [or the inverse], there is historical precedence for Presidents disliking or even outright loathing their No. 2s [and the inverse](see Mr. Reagan and Mr. George H.W. Bush for one relatively recent example). Remember, Mr. Biden was running for the same job Mr. Obama is running for. You can't be 100 percent civil against a direct competitor during the competition.

Didn't Lincoln stack his cabinet with people who hated each other to make them fight among each other instead of backstabbing him?

I was looking for more examples than Mr. Bush I and Mr. Reagan prior to writing that. They were just the most recent that I could find more than 1 cite on in the 5 minutes I spent.

IOW, you could very well be correct. It sounds clever enough and progressive enough to have occurred. But at this point in time, I would not bet my last dollar on it going down as such. I'll research it and get back at'cha.

fapologist: hot boxing flying daggers: As for "change we can believe in", yeah I'll admit I'm disappointed with (a) more than a few of Mr. Obama's policy reversals and (b) the speed with which he made them, however I am not so disheartened as to not vote for him. I'm a political pragmatist and I take the long view on all political elections. And this election cycle, it's important to me to ask myself this question "Who do I want to make naming the Supreme Court justices that are incontrovertibly gonna need to be named during the next 4 yours" and I find myself answering "Self, the ONLY viable choice is Mr. Obama". For you see, in my view this election is not about what will happen in the next 4 years [although that's very not unimportant], but about the next 40 years. As it stand, the court is only not right-wing dominated as it stands by 1. 1. And the judges aren't growing any younger.

And I hope and fervently want Obama and or Biden will reinforce that point at ever fuuukkkkeeennn opportunity during the next 2 plus months. Every time that there's a camera on them. Every time there's a microphone in their face. Use some of his war chest to hire people to stand on strategic city street corners and scream it through bullhorns. I'd do it for fukkkin free.

mmmmmmmmmm!!!

good kool-aid

Did you by chance, happen to read what followed the portion that you emboldened? HHHHMMMMM??????

Tor_Eckman: I do not see McCain getting rid of the neocons who have hijacked our government. I believe Obama will.

How is he gonna do that? Is he gonna fire all of the neo-cons in Congress and install his own people in their places? Now, that would be funny.

If Senator McCain chooses, say, Mitt Romney as his VP candidate, will the same "independent" concern trolls quote things Romney said during the primaries which were critical of McCain?

My guess is "no, they will not." Please, prove me wrong for once.

PacManDreaming: RevMercutio: You notice that the McCain supporters who trip over themselves to shiat on Obama seem rather scarce when these threads pop up?

They're here, you just don't see them. They just like to sit back and watch the Obama worshippers get in a big circle and fellate each other.
And before you have a stroke for me daring to slander the Obama Zombies, I don't support McCain. I would've rather seen a Bill Richardson/Dick Gephardt ticket.



DING, DING, DING.

PacManDreaming: Sorry, but there are a lot of people who believe that. You may not, but others on the left do.

I'm sure you think a bunch of people on the left think he is the messiah, too.

The only people that you (for example on this website) see bringing up the "you're a racist if you don't vote for him" are people that are not voting for Obama. And, they usually bring it up after they've been laughed at and/or roundly denounced for their stupid non-support issues.

Dumbass: I am not supporting Obama for [dumbass reason]
Other people: That's a dumbass reason to not support Obama. You are wrong for A, B, C. And you're a a dumbass.
Dumbass: Don't call me a racist just because I'm not voting for the messiah
Other people: Wow, you really are a dumbass.
Dumbass: I'm not a racist.
Other people: ...

If you're convinced that this occurs, find all of the evidence that this occurs. I want to see hard proof that when someone says they are not voting for Obama...they are called a racist. TV interviews, Fark threads, quotes from the campaign. You can post a thread about your progress if you like.

What you'll find is, there is not a bunch of people on the left perpetuating that line. There's one dumbass PC retard and a bunch of people from the right repeating it over and over again in an effort to discount the left and it's support of their candidate.

While you're at it, find all the cases where someone references to the messiah and you'll see that it is the same group of independents/right leaning people that perpetuate that dumbass line too.

If you take the time to look at everything, instead of what other people tell you is happening...you see that the people that keep bringing up that line are people that have been ostracized for their stupid reasons of non-support and they feel if they bring up that line...it can pass the blame off of them and instead puts the focus on the other person.

Twenty months ago "Lincoln" was without a party. The Copperheads hated him; the "Conservative Republicans" thought him too fast; the "Radical Republicans" thought him too slow; the War Democrats were looking for the chance of a return to political power. He held steadily upon his way.
--Harper's Weekly, March 5, 1864

PacManDreaming: You may not, but others on the left do.

Some people say . . .

I love me some Fox News style posting.

PacManDreaming: Tor_Eckman: I do not see McCain getting rid of the neocons who have hijacked our government. I believe Obama will.

How is he gonna do that? Is he gonna fire all of the neo-cons in Congress and install his own people in their places? Now, that would be funny.

No, not in congress. But if elected, he will have already gotten rid of Bush and Cheney. Next, attorney general, then all of the federal judges that Bush appointed. He can then turn his sights to the Pentagon, and prepare to replace a few SCOTUS judges. I don't think they will all last the next 4 years.

Congress appears to be taking care of itself. The dems are projected to easily add to the slim majority they now have, enough to effectively marginalize the Repubs.