I had a Pakistan once, but I sold one of them for gas money.

In before the inevitable Bush apologist sarcastically posts "I blame Bush."

I blame Bu-

Damn you Tabatha Static!!

/proud Bush apologist since I began writing this post
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This is what happens when Liberals get their way.

This is why Pakistan can't have nice things.

Clancy will get 30 new books out of this bullshiat.

Phil Moskowitz: Clancy will get 30 new books out of this bullshiat.

and I'll get to ignore 30 new books and play 30 fun new FPS strategy games

holiday_inn_in_cambodia: and I'll get to ignore 30 new books and play 30 fun newredecos of the same goddamn FPS strategy games we've been shovel-fed for the last 5 years

FTFY

Every FPS is just a re-hash of Wolfenstein 3D, ultimately.

Deal with it.

Based on this administration's record, I'm sure President Bush will have a diplomatic solution for this problem by Monday.

Profit of the Apocalypse: holiday_inn_in_cambodia: and I'll get to ignore 30 new books and play 30 fun newredecos of the same goddamn FPS strategy games we've been shovel-fed for the last 5 years

FTFY

Every FPS is just a re-hash of Wolfenstein 3D, ultimately.

Deal with it.

your mom is just a rehash of wolfenstein
/behold the power of my comebacks

So who gets nuked first? Israel or India?

i think there are a billion Indians that'll keep em in line.

MrSpot: i think there are a billion Indians that'll keep em in line on hold.

Fixed.

A billion Indians who will keep them in line?

The Hindus maybe. Considering there are more muslims in India than there are in Pakistan I think it's more likely they'll keep their conflict below the "nuclear exchange" threshold.

/one can hope

Profit of the Apocalypse: holiday_inn_in_cambodia: and I'll get to ignore 30 new books and play 30 fun newredecos of the same goddamn FPS strategy games we've been shovel-fed for the last 5 years

FTFY

Every FPS is just a re-hash of Wolfenstein 3D, ultimately.

Deal with it.

Really? I played Maze War, Phantom Slayer, & Catacomb 3D before those. Keep with the times man!

stability is over rated. anarchy is the new wave.

Profit of the Apocalypse: Every FPS is just a re-hash of Wolfenstein 3D, ultimately.

Deal with it.

Fail. From Unreal Tournament to Dark Force/Jedi Knight to Portal, there have been numerous entries to the genre that aren't "just a re-hash". In fact, other than rhythm games, the FPS genre has had the most innovation invested in it in the last 5 years.

/ Not an FPS fan
// Oh, right, Pakistan

Come on Porkins.

Stay on target.

Hey Pakistan, how's that "Islamic Republic" and "Land of the Pure" thing working out for ya?

Wait, what!? You mean you've disintegrated into two countries (see Bangladesh, formerly known as "East Pakistan") and are on the verge of balkanizing further into four more countries???

Good job Jinnah, your dream of illegally creating a homeland for all the peaceful muslims [hah!] of the Indian sub-continent is going juuuuust great.

/And these ass-clown neanderthals have the audacity to ferment dissent in Kashmir [India]? Silly muslims, leave the modern and enlightened thinking to the rest of the world!
//Islam, is there anything it can't do (besides preventing its followers from turning into savage frothing barbarians without free-thought, that is)

Try the decaf.

"Zia did not kill Bhutto."

/still loves that line from CWW.

shooosh: MrSpot: i think there are a billion Indians that'll keep em in line on hold.

Fixed.

some_beer_drinker: stability is over rated. anarchy is the new wave.



/For both comments, but especially for some_beer_drinker's.

"...successor to Musharraf"

Shouldn't it automatically go to his son Simba?
Or is his evil brother Scar causing trouble again?

Hmmm......

WW3 in 5..... 4..... 3.....

Anybody else ever have to learn the specific chain of events leading to WW1 and WW2 in high school?

/doesn't remember exactly
//doesn't care if not really applicable
///slashies like spinning up history buffs

Perducci: "...successor to Musharraf"

Shouldn't it automatically go to his son Simba?
Or is his evil brother Scar causing trouble again?

I think you have that confused with Mustaffah..... Or was it Mugambe...

/wait, what?

Infidels!

/nothing is obscure when hotlinking

Tabatha Static: In before the inevitable Bush apologist sarcastically posts "I blame Bush."

shooosh: MrSpot: i think there are a billion Indians that'll keep em in line on hold.

Fixed.

Lol,

/Will lol again later

AmazingRuss
So who gets nuked first? Israel or India?

Afganistan.

It was sort on the brink UNDER Mussharaf too, in all fairness.

One Nation Under Allah.

i was working pakistan a few years ago and talked about stuff with some locals i worked with.

they laughed at the dictator or tyrant label. they said before musharaf they had one news channel, controlled by the govt. specifically controlled by the party in power. it was used to go after those who wanted the power they had. they (at that time) had 7 or so news channels showing differing viewpoints. many critical of the govt and those in power.

they felt that his going after the lawlessness of the tribal areas was a good thing. the stories they had about those areas and the way it was there were very interesting.

the govt's move to bring roads and education to those areas threatened the status quo where the local warlords controlled and influenced everything.

re-elect_jimmy_carter: Tabatha Static: In before the inevitable Bush apologist sarcastically posts "I blame Bush."

Now that's a nice Shenanigans pic..

re-elect_jimmy_carter: Tabatha Static: In before the inevitable Bush apologist sarcastically posts "I blame Bush."

[cut Jimmy's usual picture suggesting that anyone who is a Republican is a Nazi]

Silly Jimmy, Hitler was not a conservative. Von Hindenburg was a conservative. Hitler was a national socialist, which was not a rightist or a leftist but something new altogether. Try not to look at world history through the prism of US partisan politics -- you might learn something.

I don't know any pancakes that were nuked by India.

/Too soon?

alltandubh: re-elect_jimmy_carter: Tabatha Static: In before the inevitable Bush apologist sarcastically posts "I blame Bush."

[cut Jimmy's usual picture suggesting that anyone who is a Republican is a Nazi]

Silly Jimmy, Hitler was not a conservative. Von Hindenburg was a conservative. Hitler was a national socialist, which was not a rightist or a leftist but something new altogether. Try not to look at world history through the prism of US partisan politics -- you might learn something.

mega-phayle

from the wiki page on nazism:

became the largest such group. Nazism is generally considered by scholars to be a form of fascism, and while it incorporated elements from both political wings, it formed most of its alliances on the political right.[10] Among the key elements of Nazism were anti-parliamentarism, Pan-Germanism, racism, collectivism,[11][12] eugenics, antisemitism, opposition to economic liberalism and political liberalism,[13][14][12] anti-communism, and totalitarianism.

The question of nuclear war between India and Pakistan is only a matter of "when?".

Soon.

And according to Srila Prabhupada's prediction (new window), it will be a proxy war for the US-Russia leading to WWIII. With Russia getting creamed the most.

Whatever.

re-elect_jimmy_carter:

from the wiki page on nazism:

became the largest such group. Nazism is generally considered by scholars to be a form of fascism, and while it incorporated elements from both political wings, it formed most of its alliances on the political right.

Jimmy, I hope you don't believe that Wikipedia is somehow infallible. In fact the term "right" is as lazy a designation for national socialism as "left" is for anarchism. The whole right-left spectrum, dating back to the days of the French Revolution, has not only always been arbitrary, it has always obscured more than it clarified -- unless you somehow believe that an extreme libertarian, who wishes for mimimal state interference and a government based only on regulating voluntary partnerships, is somehow the same thing (or at least in the same ballpark) as a Nazi who craves a powerful, centrally- ordered state which micromanages the behaviour of its citizenry and exterminates people it doesn't like. The Nazi in fact has much more in common with the Communist than he does with the libertarian, in that both the Nazi and Communist would favour an extreme degree of state control over the individual. -- And a conservative is another thing altogether from a Nazi or a libertarian. To lump all of these disparate types under the label "right-wing" is, to put it mildly, very unsophisticated, as it tells us nothing about the political philosophies of any of them.

But then, since I talking to someone who habitually equates his political opponents with Nazis, perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place for sophistication. This is Fark, after all.

Kewl nick, re-elect_jimmy_carter. Despite Carter's flaws, those were some great years. During his presidency, America was a freer nation than ever before or since. That was the peak of American greatness and freedom.

Nothing against cops (except most of 'em), but I fondly remember the days when Black Sabbath would come to town, and at the show you'd see a dozen or so scared-shiatless riot police huddled in a corner dodging empty Jack Daniels bottles. The days when you could drink beer in a park, or smoke at a baseball game if you wanted. When you could light up a joint anywhere- a bar or your desk at work, for instance, and be left alone because if some dickhead ran his mouth about it, six freaks would beat the farker down. When a woman didn't risk arrest for wearing skimpy clothes.

They try to paint those years as "disco" years, but I never knew anyone who had ever actually seen a disco in real life.

Sure, worthless lazy asses had trouble finding jobs then (and whined about it), but as long as you weren't completely useless, you could get a good paying job (unless you were a veteran, of course).

Yeah I could ramble on forever about how different things were before the onset of the police state... now get off my lawn.

alltandubh: re-elect_jimmy_carter:

from the wiki page on nazism:

became the largest such group. Nazism is generally considered by scholars to be a form of fascism, and while it incorporated elements from both political wings, it formed most of its alliances on the political right.

Jimmy, I hope you don't believe that Wikipedia is somehow infallible. In fact the term "right" is as lazy a designation for national socialism as "left" is for anarchism. The whole right-left spectrum, dating back to the days of the French Revolution, has not only always been arbitrary, it has always obscured more than it clarified -- unless you somehow believe that an extreme libertarian, who wishes for mimimal state interference and a government based only on regulating voluntary partnerships, is somehow the same thing (or at least in the same ballpark) as a Nazi who craves a powerful, centrally- ordered state which micromanages the behaviour of its citizenry and exterminates people it doesn't like. The Nazi in fact has much more in common with the Communist than he does with the libertarian, in that both the Nazi and Communist would favour an extreme degree of state control over the individual. -- And a conservative is another thing altogether from a Nazi or a libertarian. To lump all of these disparate types under the label "right-wing" is, to put it mildly, very unsophisticated, as it tells us nothing about the political philosophies of any of them.

But then, since I talking to someone who habitually equates his political opponents with Nazis, perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place for sophistication. This is Fark, after all.

i never claimed that republicans were nazis....i say that nazis are fascists.

fascism is a form of conservatism...it sure as hell isnt liberalism.

hudef: And according to Srila Prabhupada's prediction (new window), it will be a proxy war for the US-Russia leading to WWIII. With Russia getting creamed the most.

Well, at least the world isn't coming to an end in that case. 432,000 years until a new cycle, right?

If somebody in our government doesn't wake up real quick, and come to the realization that quarrels between savages on the other side of the planet don't concern us, we are screwed. It's inevitable that the world of Islam is going to crash and burn. America's only option is whether or not we are going to get caught up in it. We can't stop it.
And you can call me anything you want. Along with "liberal" and "conservative" (depending on who's using those terms), "isolationist" is just another "dirty word" that doesn't work on me any more.If saving our country from being consumed by the madness of these savages is "isolationism", then I'll wear that label in pride and patriotism.

jso2897: If somebody in our government doesn't wake up real quick, and come to the realization that quarrels between savages on the other side of the planet don't concern us, we are screwed. It's inevitable that the world of Islam is going to crash and burn. America's only option is whether or not we are going to get caught up in it. We can't stop it.
And you can call me anything you want. Along with "liberal" and "conservative" (depending on who's using those terms), "isolationist" is just another "dirty word" that doesn't work on me any more.If saving our country from being consumed by the madness of these savages is "isolationism", then I'll wear that label in pride and patriotism.

islam has had over a thousand years to crash and burn...what makes you think it will now that it is the fastest growing religion on the planet?



only fooling yourself, you are.

Democracy always works!

LocalCynic: Democracy always works!

...until it's overthrown by a CIA funded military dictatorship.

re-elect_jimmy_carter: jso2897: If somebody in our government doesn't wake up real quick, and come to the realization that quarrels between savages on the other side of the planet don't concern us, we are screwed. It's inevitable that the world of Islam is going to crash and burn. America's only option is whether or not we are going to get caught up in it. We can't stop it.
And you can call me anything you want. Along with "liberal" and "conservative" (depending on who's using those terms), "isolationist" is just another "dirty word" that doesn't work on me any more.If saving our country from being consumed by the madness of these savages is "isolationism", then I'll wear that label in pride and patriotism.

islam has had over a thousand years to crash and burn...what makes you think it will now that it is the fastest growing religion on the planet?



only fooling yourself, you are.

Well, you could be right. I'm no Nostradamus. But it's immaterial to me, and indeed, all things being equal, I would prefer to see things turn out well. I don't see it in the cards though. Christianity's reformation was one rough ride, and I don't see Islam's transition into the modern world going any more smoothly. But either way, I have no incentive to "fool myself", because at the end of the day, it's none of my business, and I don't care very much. You certainly can't maintain that America's presence in the region is making anything any better, anyway - and I fail to see how it ever could. It's a personal philosophy, really. I believe in minding one's own business, taking responsibility for one's own life, and tending one's own garden. If you disagree with me on that basic aspect of thought, there isn't much basis for us to establish any common ground.

Tabatha Static 2008-08-24 01:48:25 AM

In before the inevitable Bush apologist sarcastically posts "I blame Bush."


Not to worry, Obama will take care of it. Just as soon as he figures out that the Russia-Georgia confrontation is not a basketball game betweenn the Russian National team and the Atlanta Hawks


/Obama '08 he'll fix everything
//well, that's what the idiots tell me anyway

jso2897: But either way, I have no incentive to "fool myself", because at the end of the day, it's none of my business, and I don't care very much. You certainly can't maintain that America's presence in the region is making anything any better, anyway - and I fail to see how it ever could. It's a personal philosophy, really. I believe in minding one's own business, taking responsibility for one's own life, and tending one's own garden. If you disagree with me on that basic aspect of thought, there isn't much basis for us to establish any common ground.

Agree. It's about time the U.S. got back to policy of staying out of other nations' business.

jso2897: re-elect_jimmy_carter: jso2897: If somebody in our government doesn't wake up real quick, and come to the realization that quarrels between savages on the other side of the planet don't concern us, we are screwed. It's inevitable that the world of Islam is going to crash and burn. America's only option is whether or not we are going to get caught up in it. We can't stop it.
And you can call me anything you want. Along with "liberal" and "conservative" (depending on who's using those terms), "isolationist" is just another "dirty word" that doesn't work on me any more.If saving our country from being consumed by the madness of these savages is "isolationism", then I'll wear that label in pride and patriotism.

islam has had over a thousand years to crash and burn...what makes you think it will now that it is the fastest growing religion on the planet?



only fooling yourself, you are.

Well, you could be right. I'm no Nostradamus. But it's immaterial to me, and indeed, all things being equal, I would prefer to see things turn out well. I don't see it in the cards though. Christianity's reformation was one rough ride, and I don't see Islam's transition into the modern world going any more smoothly. But either way, I have no incentive to "fool myself", because at the end of the day, it's none of my business, and I don't care very much. You certainly can't maintain that America's presence in the region is making anything any better, anyway - and I fail to see how it ever could. It's a personal philosophy, really. I believe in minding one's own business, taking responsibility for one's own life, and tending one's own garden. If you disagree with me on that basic aspect of thought, there isn't much basis for us to establish any common ground.

wait....when was christianity reformed?

are you talking about the mormons?