That might have something to do with her bottomless vortex of coontitude.

good. she was inconsiderable.

The no-vetting story touched off criticism from some in Clinton's camp that it was a dig at the former first lady, whose supporters already are threatening to make a noisy show of displeasure at the Democratic convention opening Monday.

Christ, when don't they make a noisy show of displeasure?

Where's that pic of the cheesecake chick when you need it?

I like the guy more every day.

I dislike beets. They are one of the few foods I can't stand. Yet just to be fair, I'm going to waste my time and money forming an exploratory committee on beets to determine if they are my favorite food.

submitter: Not only did Obama not pick the Hildebeast, he apparently never even considered her

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Good. She's horrific. Could you pick a worse person to have to govern with?

Obama just keeps getting more awesomer.

DamnYankees: Good. She's horrific. Could you pick a worse person to have to govern with?

FlashHarry: good. she was inconsiderable.

Mugato: That might have something to do with her bottomless vortex of coontitude.

All of these.

You don't put out a sound bite that says "Shame on you, Barack Obama," and then expect to get considered for VP. When you say something like that, as a politician, you're drawing lines in the sand. You made your choice, deal with it.

Biden was also running against Obama. Apart from suggesting Obama may not have the experience, he didn't do anything that damaging to any Democratic candidate.

Considering the ammunition that the Republicans have against Hillary, that's not surprising in the least.

From a strategic standpoint, do you run someone that your opponent is fully prepared for?

Imagine all the ads McCain could run had he chosen her? She would have given him months worth of attack ads ready made.

I'm so glad he didn't even consider her. And watching Hillaryis44 implode today has been fun.

That's because he wants to win

CravenMorehead: I'm so glad he didn't even consider her. And watching Hillaryis44 implode today has been fun.

No doubt...love the headline: Barack Obama Throws Change Under The Bus

Because Clinton would have been such a breath of fresh air!

Earguy:

submitter: Not only did Obama not pick the Hildebeast, he apparently never even considered her

? Try .

Exactly what I came here to say. The only thing Obama had to gain from tapping Hillary was an end to the idea that he would ever be elected. It's the only thing (so far) that would stop me from voting for him. I won't vote McCain. but I don't think I could vote for Clinton either.

Philbb: Exactly what I came here to say. The only thing Obama had to gain from tapping Hillary was an end to the idea that he would ever be elected. It's the only thing (so far) that would stop me from voting for him. I won't vote McCain. but I don't think I could vote for Clinton either.

I'm actually willing to admit that Hillary would help Obama get elected. The problem is she would be the absolute worst choice for the process of governing.

Not only did Obama not pick the Hildebeast, he apparently never even considered her

So what?

Why the hell would Obama consider Clinton? After that nasty primary fight, he'd be a fool to put her on the ticket.

Good.

DamnYankees: The problem is she would be the absolute worst choice for the process of governing.

Exactly; both her AND her husband. Problem is, Biden has this problem as well, even if he's not quite as bad about it as the Clintons.

You just know the guy won't be able to help himself. He'll elbow his way into the decision-making process on every big issue.

Philbb: Exactly what I came here to say. The only thing Obama had to gain from tapping Hillary was an end to the idea that he would ever be elected. It's the only thing (so far) that would stop me from voting for him. I won't vote McCain. but I don't think I could vote for Clinton either.

This.

Lying about being on anybody's shortlist you can believe in!

Prospero424: You just know the guy won't be able to help himself. He'll elbow his way into the decision-making process on every big issue.

I don't think he'll have to elbow himself. Obama likes and trusts him. That's not exactly true with Hillary.

His campaign says they did consider her on the short list. She and her supporters should just shut up and go away. She lost, get over it. And she would have been a terrible choice for VP.

a) good. Don't "consider" her just to appease her ego and her butthurt fans
b) Howard Wolfson made a good point by saying (paraphrase) "what is there to vette? We did that during the primaries, what the hell was left to investigate?"

Edsel: His campaign says they did consider her on the short list. She and her supporters should just shut up and go away. She lost, get over it. And she would have been a terrible choice for VP.

Women have a hard time letting go of things, especially older women with saggy tits and haven't had the pleasure of having sex with a man on a frequent basis.

her supporters should just shut up and go away.

That's exactly what they are going to do. After they aggravate some people in Denver.

Say hello to President Grandpa McCain.

CravenMorehead: And watching Hillaryis44 implode today has been fun.

Especially since it's idiots like them that won't be happy either way. They would have been offended if she was offered the spot and they would have been offered had she not been offered the spot. I'm convinced they would be offended if he stood aside to let her run for president!

SeismicJizzer: Edsel: His campaign says they did consider her on the short list. She and her supporters should just shut up and go away. She lost, get over it. And she would have been a terrible choice for VP.

Women have a hard time letting go of things, especially older women with saggy tits and haven't had the pleasure of having sex with a man on a frequent basis.

There was a great post on Hillaryis44.blogspot.com explaining how the PUMAs were validating all sterotypes about women. I can post it here:


I know I keep saying that the Hill Hags and PUMA's and POH's (oh my!) keep reinforcing every negative stereotype about women, but I've never really said why I think that. (And yes, that includes the men...)


* Vindictive - even though most of them don't agree with a single one of John McCain's positions on the issues, they are willing to vote for him just to punish Obama for beating Hillary.


* Passive-Aggressive - they don't want Obama to pick Hillary as VP, yet they will be mighty pissed if he doesn't - as seen by their faux-outrage over the revelation today that she wasn't even vetted.


* Obsessive Stalking - (a la the Glenn Close character in Fatal Attraction) - the PUMA's "prowls" are really the political equivalent of "drunk dialing" your ex and leaving tearful or out-of-control voice mails when they don't answer. It makes me think of that scene where she's sitting on the floor, flicking the light switch on & off with Madame Butterfly playing in the background. Hint: that NEVER works.


* Nagging - a close cousin to Stalking, Nagging involves verbal harangue-ing, while mere Stalking can be non-verbal.


* Magical Thinking - the whole idea of Hillary somehow still having a chance to win the nomination is "magical thinking." Even if their Nagging and Stalking somehow managed to persuade any Super Delegates into switching sides (as opposed to running for the hills in the opposite direction...) - what would she use for money? She's still about $20 million in debt because - Hello! "Magical thinking!" - some PUMA's (Will Bower, Darragh Murphy) wanted to make themselves seem more important than they really were, and convinced the world their groups collectively managed to wiped out Hillary's entire debt over a holiday weekend in July. Turns out, they didn't even crack six figures. (Sorry, Kevin, I would have linked directly to the Rumproast version, but my company blocks your website for some reason...)


* Conspiracy Theorist - nothing that a little "He's just not that into you" wouldn't cure. This runs the gamut from "Whitey" to the "fake birth certificate" scheme, to the "caucus fraud" (as if it's easier to "cheat" when you call out your vote in front of friends & neighbors, as opposed to voting by yourself behind a curtain), to "Hillary's being blackmailed" (Um, wouldn't that make her powerless? Thought she was a strong Woman who controls her own Destiny?). It makes you look like wackos, ladies - and gentlemen, that means you, too.

The only thing that would have been better would be if he called her privately every couple days hinting that he'd choose her. Then see exactly what he could get her to do before he pulled the rug out.

Also, I should add: Her supporters, the ones causing the media stir by saying they won't vote for him, wouldn't have voted for him even with Hilldog as veep. They will accept nothing less then him saying "aw fark it, I'll let Hillary run the show bc she's a woman and we owe it to her for her courage and grace".

These people are not rational and there is simply no way for him to win them over. THESE ARE DEM WOMEN WHO WILL VOTE FOR A PRO-LIFE REPUB OUT OF SPITE FOR CHRISTSSAKE.

I'm sure he did consider her....for about 3 seconds until he realized he would lose more support than he would gain.

DamnYankees:

I'm shocked they didn't delete that post.

DamnYankees: SeismicJizzer: Edsel: His campaign says they did consider her on the short list. She and her supporters should just shut up and go away. She lost, get over it. And she would have been a terrible choice for VP.

Women have a hard time letting go of things, especially older women with saggy tits and haven't had the pleasure of having sex with a man on a frequent basis.

There was a great post on Hillaryis44.blogspot.com explaining how the PUMAs were validating all sterotypes about women. I can post it here:


I know I keep saying that the Hill Hags and PUMA's and POH's (oh my!) keep reinforcing every negative stereotype about women, but I've never really said why I think that. (And yes, that includes the men...)


* Vindictive - even though most of them don't agree with a single one of John McCain's positions on the issues, they are willing to vote for him just to punish Obama for beating Hillary.


* Passive-Aggressive - they don't want Obama to pick Hillary as VP, yet they will be mighty pissed if he doesn't - as seen by their faux-outrage over the revelation today that she wasn't even vetted.


* Obsessive Stalking - (a la the Glenn Close character in Fatal Attraction) - the PUMA's "prowls" are really the political equivalent of "drunk dialing" your ex and leaving tearful or out-of-control voice mails when they don't answer. It makes me think of that scene where she's sitting on the floor, flicking the light switch on & off with Madame Butterfly playing in the background. Hint: that NEVER works.


* Nagging - a close cousin to Stalking, Nagging involves verbal harangue-ing, while mere Stalking can be non-verbal.


* Magical Thinking - the whole idea of Hillary somehow still having a chance to win the nomination is "magical thinking." Even if their Nagging and Stalking somehow managed to persuade any Super Delegates into switching sides (as opposed to running for the hills in the opposite direction...) - what would she use for money? She's still about $20 million in debt because - Hello! "Magical thinking!" - some PUMA's (Will Bower, Darragh Murphy) wanted to make themselves seem more important than they really were, and convinced the world their groups collectively managed to wiped out Hillary's entire debt over a holiday weekend in July. Turns out, they didn't even crack six figures. (Sorry, Kevin, I would have linked directly to the Rumproast version, but my company blocks your website for some reason...)


* Conspiracy Theorist - nothing that a little "He's just not that into you" wouldn't cure. This runs the gamut from "Whitey" to the "fake birth certificate" scheme, to the "caucus fraud" (as if it's easier to "cheat" when you call out your vote in front of friends & neighbors, as opposed to voting by yourself behind a curtain), to "Hillary's being blackmailed" (Um, wouldn't that make her powerless? Thought she was a strong Woman who controls her own Destiny?). It makes you look like wackos, ladies - and gentlemen, that means you, too.

Now that is a spot on analysis!

I Said: DamnYankees:

I'm shocked they didn't delete that post.

Hillaryis44.blogspot.com is a separate website, mocking www.hillaryis44.org.

DamnYankees: I don't think he'll have to elbow himself.

I'm more afraid of that than the alternative...

DamnYankees: Obama likes and trusts him. That's not exactly true with Hillary.

I certainly agree that he's trusted more than Hillary, but farther than that, I just don't know. Biden was a pretty aggressive antagonist of Obama's when he was a candidate and when he dropped out of the race, he didn't exactly come running to Obama's side. In fact, he made noises in support of Hillary against Obama.

DamnYankees: I'm actually willing to admit that Hillary would help Obama get elected. The problem is she would be the absolute worst choice for the process of governing.

This. Obama wants a VP who will help him get bills passed through congress, and who better than someone with Biden's experience?

It would be pretty cool if this spelled the end of her career in national politics.

Actually, I'm going to go whack off to that thought right now.

Well I'm sure he wasn't up till 3 am thinking about it.

oregoncat: This. Obama wants a VP who will help him get bills passed through congress, and who better than someone with Biden's experience?

I agree he'll be a massive help on that front. I just worry that he'll try to turn the bills they submit into something I wouldn't support, like he's often done in the Senate.

He's in the pocket of big business, he voted for the Iraq War, he reacts . . . poorly when he doesn't get his way, and he's been in the Senate most of his life.

I just worry what that sort of strong, aggressive influence will do to Obama's policy decisions.

Prospero424: I agree he'll be a massive help on that front. I just worry that he'll try to turn the bills they submit into something I wouldn't support, like he's often done in the Senate.

He's in the pocket of big business, he voted for the Iraq War, he reacts . . . poorly when he doesn't get his way, and he's been in the Senate most of his life.

Luckily Obama is still going to be President, not Biden. Hopefully for 8 years.

DamnYankees: Luckily Obama is still going to be President, not Biden. Hopefully for 8 years.

Oh, I agree. This just goes back to that point about Biden elbowing (or not having to) his way into policy decisions.

But I agree that he's certainly not going to be another Dick Cheney - the Vice President basically being the real President - if even my worst assumptions were true. Obama wouldn't allow that, and I think he'll return the office of VP to its more traditional role.

Prospero424: DamnYankees: Luckily Obama is still going to be President, not Biden. Hopefully for 8 years.

Oh, I agree. This just goes back to that point about Biden elbowing (or not having to) his way into policy decisions.

But I agree that he's certainly not going to be another Dick Cheney - the Vice President basically being the real President - if even my worst assumptions were true. Obama wouldn't allow that, and I think he'll return the office of VP to its more traditional role.

Frankly, I think Biden is just really happy to be VP. I don't see him as being incredibly ambitious and overbearing. Sure, he ran for President, but he knew he never had a shot. Dude has been in the Senate for 30+ years - he's probably thrilled to have a shot at being VP. And considering Obama's temperment and his incredible discipline, I'm not worried that he'll be manipulated by Biden.

Prospero424: But I agree that he's certainly not going to be another Dick Cheney - the Vice President basically being the real President - if even my worst assumptions were true. Obama wouldn't allow that

keep planning that victory parade... LOL

I Said: Howard Wolfson made a good point by saying (paraphrase) "what is there to vette? We did that during the primaries, what the hell was left to investigate?"

This pretty much covers it. They've undoubtedly spent a huge amount of time going over her history in preparation for the primaries and caucuses, and she spent months advertising her own beliefs and positions. Why would they need any additional information from her camp to determine her viability as a VP?

DamnYankees: And considering Obama's temperment and his incredible discipline,

HAHAHAHAHA - discipline. is that what you call getting his panties in a wad over every criticism lobbed his way?

dumb and dumber are gonna get owned by McCain - you think August was bad?

DamnYankees: Frankly, I think Biden is just really happy to be VP. I don't see him as being incredibly ambitious and overbearing.

Ambitious I don't have a problem with. I don't think he would want to consciously usurp a President Obama's power. I do think he's overbearing, and would want his opinion to be heard (and perhaps acted upon) on an issue regardless of whether his input was solicited or not.

Meh, this is all subjective speculation, anyway. That's just the sense I get of Biden, personally. Take it for what you will.

captain_napalm: keep planning that victory parade... LOL

Oh, eat me. I'm speaking hypothetically, and I know it.

captain_napalm: dumb and dumber are gonna get owned by McCain - you think August was bad?

Hehehe, you keep planning that victory parade, genius.

He probably didn't consider her because she had no interest in being vetted. That would have meant turning over donor lists to the Clinton library and answering questions she had no interest in discussing, so of course she wasn't vetted.

/Also probably has something to do with her being a horrible VP pick

"unity"

captain_napalm:

"Wharrgarbl"