Call me nutty, but I don't think that anyone who was planning on voting on the single issue of gun rights would have been lining up to vote for Obama even if he had selected the rotting corpse of Charlton Heston as his running mate.

My Liver Hurts: Call me nutty, but I don't think that anyone who was planning on voting on the single issue of gun rights would have been lining up to vote for Obama even if he had selected the rotting corpse of Charlton Heston as his running mate.

Precisely. The NRA is so effective at conflating Democrats with gun-grabbing that it's nearly impossible to convince some voters otherwise. Democrats taking your guns is somewhere along the lines of forcing good Christians to marry peacocks, but in their minds, it's a foregone conclusion if those goddam liberals ever get power again.

Gun control is one of the biggest red herring non-issues, and it has been expertly exploited.

hillbillypharmacist: My Liver Hurts: Call me nutty, but I don't think that anyone who was planning on voting on the single issue of gun rights would have been lining up to vote for Obama even if he had selected the rotting corpse of Charlton Heston as his running mate.

Precisely. The NRA is so effective at conflating Democrats with gun-grabbing that it's nearly impossible to convince some voters otherwise. Democrats taking your guns is somewhere along the lines of forcing good Christians to marry peacocks, but in their minds, it's a foregone conclusion if those goddam liberals ever get power again.

Gun control is one of the biggest red herring non-issues, and it has been expertly exploited.

You can have my peacock when you pry it from my cold, dead ... um...

peacock, peecock, penis.

To the tune of Tunak Tunak Tun.

None of that clinging now. What's next?

Is concern troll concerned?

C'mon subbyhuman, you can do better. Let's hear more about his big mouth or law school grades.

IronTom: None of that clinging now. What's next?

SMATR PEOPLE ARE HOMOS.

Stupid gun grabbers.

GaryPDX: Stupid gun grabbers.

Guns aren't stupid, it's the owners you have to worry about.

Y'know, the single most left-wing --extremely liberal -- guy I know, a staunch Kucinich supporter to this day, a guy who makes even the most ardent liberal Obama supporter look downright Republican by comparison is also a member of the NRA.

You are being disarmed, citizen. Get in line.

GaryPDX: Stupid gun grabbers.

You never answered the question I asked you last time you said this, back in thread 3803185.

"Gary, question for you.

If you think the government is so inept that you don't trust them to run anything, as shown by your opinions in past threads, what makes you think they could organize enough to disarm the entire country, especially when there's so many people who feel as strongly about keeping their guns as you do? It seems kind of like a double standard, like the government can't to jack squat unless it's doing it against you.

Raiden333: they could organize enough to disarm the entire country

If there is one thing our government is good at doing, it is arresting people and putting them in prison.

I think it is a little bit silly to worry about right now, but there is no doubt we are slowly turning into a police state. Warrantless searches, red-light cameras, "drunk driving" checkpoints, unregulated no-fly terror black lists. Guns are our last line of defense against a government that ignores the rules that it is supposed to operate under.

Raiden333: "Gary, question for you.

If you think the government is so inept that you don't trust them to run anything, as shown by your opinions in past threads, what makes you think they could organize enough to disarm the entire country, especially when there's so many people who feel as strongly about keeping their guns as you do? It seems kind of like a double standard, like the government can't to jack squat unless it's doing it against you.

The 2nd Amendment is the People's enforcement clause of the Constitution. We must always stay vigilant to the Constitution. They are tools of a free people. I've never seen the government run anything efficiently and if given the opportunity, tyranny will rear it's ugly head. That old pesky "power corrupts" thingy. There's no valid or remotely justifiable reason to disarm or otherwise restrict law abiding citizens from having arms.

GaryPDX: The 2nd Amendment

The 2nd Amendment is vastly over exaggerated and over cited for wrong reasons. It was not intended to mean "Own 70,000 guns and shoot anyone who demands a single safety measure."

GAT_00: GaryPDX: The 2nd Amendment

The 2nd Amendment is vastly over exaggerated and over cited for wrong reasons. It was not intended to mean "Own 70,000 guns and shoot anyone who demands a single safety measure."

You're right, it's not that specific. It was intended to mean "own however many guns you want and be able to use them"

GaryPDX: I've never seen the government run anything efficiently

Reminds me of The Life of Brian:

All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

"Small government" is the greatest trick the Republicans ever pulled over on the middle class. The real neo-cons, not the poseurs in office, really do want small government. That way they can privatize and start charging for EVERYTHING.

Imagine the beauty: Every single road: a toll road. Every school: private. Every library: a Barnes and Noble. No public anything.

Then they can point at all the people struggling and say "guess they're not good enough. No worries, we can employ them to do our manual labor. And they can even live on the premises. And instead, paying, maybe we can just take care of them."

Sound familiar?

Etchy333: That way they can privatize and start charging for EVERYTHING.

Yeah, because the government doesn't already charge the taxpayers for EVERYTHING, and it's impossible for government officials to enrich themselves the way things are now, with a large government.

Etchy333: Sound familiar?


What you describe is not Neo-con.

You describe Ayn Rand.

Ayn Rand scares neo-cons.

Ayn Rand should scare everybody. People who like Ayn Rand are

Sorry, I forgot where I was going with this. Rhythmic Gymnastics was on and I have no idea how that chick from Spain can make having the ability to kick the back of your own head so sexy. MOARWANT.

My Liver Hurts: Call me nutty, but I don't think that anyone who was planning on voting on the single issue of gun rights would have been lining up to vote for Obama even if he had selected the rotting corpse of Charlton Heston as his running mate.

Yup.

Also, McCain's pro-choice, pro-environment, gay friendly BFF Joe Lieberman got an "F" from the NRA, too...and he's speaking at the GOP convention and is being considered for a VP slot.

Will the red states go to Bob Barr?

GaryPDX: We must always stay vigilant to the Constitution.

Says the guy who thought the Constitution gives states a number of senators equal to the number of major political parties.

GaryPDX: Raiden333: "Gary, question for you.

If you think the government is so inept that you don't trust them to run anything, as shown by your opinions in past threads, what makes you think they could organize enough to disarm the entire country, especially when there's so many people who feel as strongly about keeping their guns as you do? It seems kind of like a double standard, like the government can't to jack squat unless it's doing it against you.

The 2nd Amendment is the People's enforcement clause of the Constitution. We must always stay vigilant to the Constitution. They are tools of a free people. I've never seen the government run anything efficiently and if given the opportunity, tyranny will rear it's ugly head. That old pesky "power corrupts" thingy. There's no valid or remotely justifiable reason to disarm or otherwise restrict law abiding citizens from having arms.

um, so why aren't you so ardent in your support of other Constitutional guarantees? You only ever defend your guns, but you are always fine with the other rights being tossed out. Support the Constitution, not just the one amendment you like.

Yes, because we should be enslaved to what the friggin' NRA wants. As previously said, people who vote on guns weren't voting for Obama anyway, so fark it. Our very own Farker Obama Gonna Take My Guns!!!!!11 is proof enough of that.

My Liver Hurts: Call me nutty, but I don't think that anyone who was planning on voting on the single issue of gun rights would have been lining up to vote for Obama even if he had selected the rotting corpse of Charlton Heston as his running mate.

Over in one.

I have no clue what kind of conversation could come from this :S

Single-issue gun owners ought to be dancing in the streets, then, that an Obama election would get Biden out of the Senate (unless there were a tie... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA).

BKITU: Single-issue gun owners ought to be dancing in the streets, then, that an Obama election would get Biden out of the Senate (unless there were a tie... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA).

Exactly. VP is pretty much a step down in power from his senior Senate position... unless something happens to Obama.

GaryPDX: Raiden333: "Gary, question for you.

If you think the government is so inept that you don't trust them to run anything, as shown by your opinions in past threads, what makes you think they could organize enough to disarm the entire country, especially when there's so many people who feel as strongly about keeping their guns as you do? It seems kind of like a double standard, like the government can't to jack squat unless it's doing it against you.

The 2nd Amendment is the People's enforcement clause of the Constitution. We must always stay vigilant to the Constitution. They are tools of a free people. I've never seen the government run anything efficiently and if given the opportunity, tyranny will rear it's ugly head. That old pesky "power corrupts" thingy. There's no valid or remotely justifiable reason to disarm or otherwise restrict law abiding citizens from having arms.

Aaannnd a non-answer. Color me shocked. There's a reason Gary is farkied as "tap-dancing prick. RISK! Masturbates in his fallout shelter".

If there is one thing our government is good at doing, it is arresting people and putting them in prison

*sparks a bowl*

Not really.

L.C. Smith.
Keeping lawns kid free since 1929.



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burndtdan: If there is one thing our government is good at doing, it is arresting people and putting them in prison

*sparks a bowl*

Not really.

Dude! Share the wealth!

/a friend in need...

the candidate of change picks a guy who's served 35 years in the senate.

the candidate of opposition to the Iraq war picks someone who supported it.

what a moran. thank god he's gone in a couple months.

/if not next week

Democrats do not (and should not) give a sweet Christ about every Billy Joe Guntoter and the red states they live in.

Jesusland is about to get a cold, rude awakening, and I'm glad that Obama/Biden are the ones to do it.

We need swing states to win the election, not the red ones. They can keep them.

/Dems will win Ohio, without issue.

RadioAaron: /Dems will win Ohio, without issue.

that's the hardest I've laughed all day.

I'm sure picking a veep candidate who earned an F A from the NRA on gun control is really going to help Obama in those red states would even matter to the gun-toting nut-job voting block

Fixed!

GAT_00: It was not intended to mean "Own 70,000 guns and shoot anyone who demands a single safety measure."

Then praytell what does it mean?

I can't believe I'm the one to start the gunporn today.

Hey, everyone, check out these pics of my .44, my silencer collection, and my replica Smith & Wess--

Oh, wait, I just remembered I don't need to post pictures of my guns on Fark since I have a satisfactory penis.

captain_napalm: the candidate of change picks a guy who's served 35 years in the senate.

the candidate of opposition to the Iraq war picks someone who supported it.

what a moran. thank god he's gone in a couple months.

/if not next week

your tears just fuel me

zzzzzzzzzzzzz.............

My Liver Hurts 2008-08-23 05:33:38 PM
Call me nutty, but I don't think that anyone who was planning on voting on the single issue of gun rights would have been lining up to vote for Obama even if he had selected the rotting corpse of Charlton Heston as his running mate.

He might if he were hoping Obama would change.

I am still shocked at how many morans think Obama will be "different". He is a Democratic politician cut from the same mold as older statesman and subject to the same pressures.

He is younger and half black. Beyond that, he is nothing special. That is it. Wake the fark up.

RadioAaron: Democrats do not (and should not) give a sweet Christ about every Billy Joe Guntoter and the red states they live in.

Jesusland is about to get a cold, rude awakening, and I'm glad that Obama/Biden are the ones to do it.

We need swing states to win the election, not the red ones. They can keep them.

/Dems will win Ohio, without issue.

Since when does owning a gun make you a Jesusland redneck? Wake up please, you Starbucks-sipping, Apple-product owning elitist, douche bag. You can't vote away the 2nd amendment, no matter how many hybrids you buy.

Talk about willful ignorance.

parkedr: I think it is a little bit silly to worry about right now, but there is no doubt we are slowly turning into a police state. Warrantless searches, red-light cameras, "drunk driving" checkpoints, unregulated no-fly terror black lists. Guns are our last line of defense against a government that ignores the rules that it is supposed to operate under.

And which party has contributed the most in the past eight years to those "police state" items you list? Hmmm.... let me think...

MBA Whore: I am still shocked at how many morans think Obama will be "different". He is a Democratic politician cut from the same mold as older statesman and subject to the same pressures.

He is younger and half black. Beyond that, he is nothing special. That is it. Wake the fark up.

But he makes white people feel all warm and fuzzy inside because they know voting for him relieves them of their imagined racist-guilt.

Zexyness: You can't vote away the 2nd amendment, no matter how many hybrids you buy.

Which absolutely no one in either side's campaign is trying to do.

Link (new window)

Damn southern Republican hippies.

Zexyness: Since when does owning a gun make you a Jesusland redneck? Wake up please, you Starbucks-sipping, Apple-product owning elitist, douche bag. You can't vote away the 2nd amendment, no matter how many hybrids you buy.

Talk about willful ignorance.

*TWEET!*

Improper leap in logic! 5 yard penalty! Replay down!

My point was about the irrelevance of red states, like those mentioned in the headline. If anyone made that connection between gun-toting rednecks and red states, it was the submitter.

Please play again, next time without the ad hominem.

patrick767: And which party has contributed the most in the past eight years to those "police state" items you list? Hmmm.... let me think...

...By the end of 2004, George W. Bush had issued 108 signing statements containing 505 constitutional challenges. As of January 30, 2008, he had signed 157 signing statements challenging over 1,100 provisions of federal law.

Zexyness: MBA Whore: I am still shocked at how many morans think Obama will be "different". He is a Democratic politician cut from the same mold as older statesman and subject to the same pressures.

He is younger and half black. Beyond that, he is nothing special. That is it. Wake the fark up.

But he makes white people feel all warm and fuzzy inside because they know voting for him relieves them of their imagined racist-guilt.

Or it could be that some of us have a much broader sense of politics and the world in general, so we study each candidates policies and decide on what we feel is best for us and for the nation.

/i know i know. Listening to talking points and focusing on non-issues is so much easier than logic. Sorry to interrupt.

MBA Whore: I am still shocked at how many morans think Obama will be "different". He is a Democratic politician cut from the same mold as older statesman and subject to the same pressures.

He is younger and half black. Beyond that, he is nothing special. That is it. Wake the fark up.

Thank you for your concern, but most of us can't stand the geezer.

Zexyness: But he makes white people feel all warm and fuzzy inside because they know voting for him relieves them of their imagined racist-guilt.

Wow, you figured out Obama supporters! We only like him because of our white guilt. It's not because we think he has a lot of good ideas, we think he'll be an excellent President, and we sure as fark don't want McCain in there. No no, it's our guilt. Brilliant!