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(Salon) Obvious "Having a wife who provides you with a private jet and eight multimillion-dollar vacation homes provides for a comfortable life. But is this the right preparation for becoming president?" -The right wing on Kerry, 2004   (salon.com) divider line 77
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2wolves 2008-08-23 08:39:23 AM  
If the GOP base had an attention span better than that of goldfish this might have been a problem.

 
John Paul Jones [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 08:42:16 AM  
This would make for a great TV ad though.

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 08:45:50 AM  
2wolves: If the GOP base had an attention span better than that of goldfish this might have been a problem.

True, but if the Democratic base had an attention span better than that of a goldfish it wouldn't be a knock against McCain, either.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 08:46:12 AM  
Rush Limbaugh, throughout 2004:

I mean, [Kerry]'s been there, but he's basically a skirt-chaser, folks. He's a gigolo. . . .Kerry is cheap. Most gigolos are. I mean -- I think it -- I think it goes with the, with the definition. . . .

What do you consider a fair wage? John Kerry considers a fair wage a wife with 500 million. So, he had to find a company that had one. Well, there aren't too many of these companies that have little heiresses running around that are single, have 500 million that some guy can marry into. . . .

Because see, Al Gore's daddy was a senator and Al Gore's daddy worked his way up from wealth and power to wealth and power. I mean, he got more of it than anybody ever dreamed of for having as little to go on. I mean, he's one of those old boys. You know how that worked back then. Then John Kerry's daddy is his wives. (laughter) I mean, he's a gigolo. Everybody knows this.

There's nobody in our party really has much respect for this guy and you can see it last night, but I can't say that. I mean, you got sugar daddy wife back then. You got sugar daddy wife now. He worked his way up from a blue blood to a platinum American Express card, and it doesn't have his name on it.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 08:49:43 AM  
Hannity & Colmes, Jan. 24, 2004:

ANN COULTER: John Kerry can't really speak to the middle class tax cuts, inasmuch as he is ...

SEAN HANNITY: Yes.

ANN COULTER: ... a kept man. He lives off the money made by other men and left to their daughters or wives.

 
Party Boy [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 08:51:30 AM  
Lots of TV coverage on this in 2004, apparently.

Hey TV media, where's the consistency?

 
Party Boy [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 08:54:23 AM  
Goes without saying, but..

How about some consistency on all the TV Lawl at the war hero™

 
2wolves 2008-08-23 08:59:54 AM  
Nabb1: 2wolves: If the GOP base had an attention span better than that of goldfish this might have been a problem.

True, but if the Democratic base had an attention span better than that of a goldfish it wouldn't be a knock against McCain, either.


Examples please?

 
GaryPDX [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 09:00:25 AM  
Here's the face of Hope and Change!!

msnbcmedia4.msn.com

Nobody seems to be able to pay attention longer than a week. America is bunch of clueless blathering sheep.

 
flaEsq [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 09:01:34 AM  
Gigolo John gigolos

 
Sun God [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 09:02:19 AM  
Is this the Gilligan's Island thread when Thurston and Mrs. Howell escape from the Island?

 
Control_this [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 09:07:01 AM  
Beer money vs. Ketchup money. Obviously beer money is going to win. (I saw "Thank You for Smoking").

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 09:23:31 AM  
GaryPDX: Here's the face of Hope and Change!!

I knew you'd be on topic, just like the classic "independent" you are.

Vote Republican in 2008, and every year after !

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 09:25:07 AM  
2wolves: Examples please?

I believe "b-b-b-both sides are bad" is in play, no specifics are therefore required.

 
GaryPDX [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 09:30:15 AM  
Mordant: GaryPDX: Here's the face of Hope and Change!!

I knew you'd be on topic, just like the classic "independent" you are.

Vote Republican in 2008, and every year after !


Hey now..I voted for Gore the first time.

 
Smellvin 2008-08-23 09:49:49 AM  
Democrats in 2004: "Shouldn't someone who's actually been in a war be head of the country while we have troops fighting overseas?"

Both parties may say whatever is advantageous to them at that particular moment in time, heedless of what they've said in the past.
/*insert Romero picture here*

 
Lackofname 2008-08-23 09:52:00 AM  
"Democrats in 2004: "Shouldn't someone who's actually been in a war be head of the country while we have troops fighting overseas?""

Except in 2008, we want to end the fighting those troops are doing by bringing them home, so it's unnecessary.

 
WALMART.saves 2008-08-23 09:52:33 AM  
The neoconservatives are flip-floppers, too?
Whoda Thunk It?

 
FlashHarry [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 09:53:50 AM  
GaryPDX: Mordant: GaryPDX: Here's the face of Hope and Change!!

I knew you'd be on topic, just like the classic "independent" you are.

Vote Republican in 2008, and every year after !

Hey now..I voted for Gore the first time.


so... you voted for gore in 2000 and you voted bush in 2004?

holy cow, man - i've heard of plenty of people doing the opposite: those who actually believed the "compassionate conservatism" bullshiat. but you're the first person i've ever heard of who did it the other way 'round.

holy shiat!

 
HighOnCraic 2008-08-23 09:57:34 AM  
Ann Coulter--Just a Gigolo

Like every war hero I've ever met, John Kerry seems content to spend his days bragging about his battlefield exploits. Wait, wait ... Let me correct that last sentence: like no war hero I've ever met ... As everyone has heard approximately 1 billion times by now, Kerry boasts that he has REAL experience with aircraft carriers . . .

Kerry was indisputably brave in Vietnam, and it's kind of cute to see Democrats pretend to admire military service. Physical courage, like chastity, is something liberals usually deride, but are tickled when it accidentally manifests itself in one of their own. One has to stand in awe of Kerry's military service 33 years ago. Of course, that's where it ends, including with Kerry . . .

But if Bush can't talk to Kerry about the horrors of war, then Kerry sure as hell can't talk to anyone about the plight of the middle class. Kerry's life experience consists of living off other men's money by marrying their wives and daughters.

For over 30 years, Kerry's primary occupation has been stalking lonely heiresses. Not to get back to his combat experience, but Kerry sees a room full of wealthy widows as "a target-rich environment." This is a guy whose experience dealing with tax problems is based on spending his entire adult life being supported by rich women. What does a kept man know about taxes?

In 1970, Kerry married into the family of Julia Thorne ? a family estimated to be worth about $300 million. She got depressed, so he promptly left her and was soon seen catting around with Hollywood starlets, mostly while the cad was still married.

It seems his second meal ticket, Teresa Heinz, wanted the first marriage annulled ? and Heinz is worth more than $700 million. Kerry claims he will stand up to powerful interests, but he can't even stand up to his wife.

At pains to make Kerry sound like a normal American, his campaign has described how Kerry risked everything, mortgaging his home in Boston to help pay for his presidential campaign. Technically, Kerry took out a $6 million mortgage for "his share" of "the family's home" ? which was bought with the Heinz family fortune. (Why should he spend his own money? He didn't throw away his own medals.) I'm sure the average working stiff in Massachusetts can relate to a guy who borrows $6 million against his house to pay for TV ads.

But if we're going to determine fitness for office based on life experience, Kerry clearly has no experience dealing with problems of typical Americans since he is a cad and a gigolo living in the lap of other men's money.

Kerry is like some character in a Balzac novel, an adventurer twirling the end of his mustache and preying on rich women. This low-born poseur with his threadbare pseudo-Brahmin family bought a political career with one rich woman's money, dumped her, and made off with another heiress to enable him to run for president. If Democrats want to talk about middle-class tax cuts, couldn't they nominate someone who hasn't been a poodle to rich women for the past 33 years?

 
Three Crooked Squirrels [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 09:57:45 AM  
Lackofname: "Democrats in 2004: "Shouldn't someone who's actually been in a war be head of the country while we have troops fighting overseas?""

Except in 2008, we want to end the fighting those troops are doing by bringing them home, so it's unnecessary.


Maybe a few on the left said that. But I think the theme behind Kerry's service was that he was an honorable veteran, not that his military experience qualified him for the presidency. Then, the right smeared his honorable service and he didn't fight back.

Flashforward to 2008. The left, for the most part, admits McCain's service was honorable (except for a few morans on Fark that will continually post that he was a bad pilot). However, that service doesn't qualify him for the presidency. For the vast majority on the left, there is no confict.

 
Iwouldhitit [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 09:59:15 AM  
That's some funny shiat right there.

 
GaryPDX [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 10:01:08 AM  
FlashHarry: so... you voted for gore in 2000 and you voted bush in 2004?

holy cow, man - i've heard of plenty of people doing the opposite: those who actually believed the "compassionate conservatism" bullshiat. but you're the first person i've ever heard of who did it the other way 'round.

holy shiat!


I wanted Bush to "own" his mess and I really loathed Kerry.

 
FlashHarry [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 10:02:23 AM  
GaryPDX: FlashHarry: so... you voted for gore in 2000 and you voted bush in 2004?

holy cow, man - i've heard of plenty of people doing the opposite: those who actually believed the "compassionate conservatism" bullshiat. but you're the first person i've ever heard of who did it the other way 'round.

holy shiat!

I wanted Bush to "own" his mess and I really loathed Kerry.


well, that's fair, i guess. still... whoa!

 
themadtupper 2008-08-23 10:02:43 AM  
GaryPDX:

Hey now..I voted for Gore the first time.


1988?

 
KeatingFive 2008-08-23 10:03:18 AM  
GaryPDX: Mordant: GaryPDX: Here's the face of Hope and Change!!

I knew you'd be on topic, just like the classic "independent" you are.

Vote Republican in 2008, and every year after !

Hey now..I voted for Gore the first time.


Suuuuuure you did.

 
Yukon Callmeal 2008-08-23 10:07:44 AM  
"Having a wife who provides you with a private jet and eight multimillion-dollar vacation homes provides for a comfortable life. But is this the right preparation for becoming president?" -The right wing on Kerry, 2004

"He's a veteran who has always been ready to serve America." -The left wing in response, 2004.

 
bwesb 2008-08-23 10:08:23 AM  
"Having a wife who provides you with a private jet and eight multimillion-dollar vacation homes provides for a comfortable life. But is this the right preparation for becoming president?" -The right wing on Kerry, 2004

Large popcorn? Check.
Large cherry coke? Check.
Seats, ninth-row, center? Check.

It's showtime.

 
Marla Singer's Laundry [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 10:12:51 AM  
GaryPDX: Here's the face of Hope and Change!!



Nobody seems to be able to pay attention longer than a week. America is bunch of clueless blathering sheep.


Gary...look who's oinking.

 
Notabunny 2008-08-23 10:16:08 AM  
If my houses looked like John McCain's house (pops like a real estate bubble) I think I'd be able to remember them.

Click "Take Virtual Tour" under the picture of the pool
speakers on, please

 
The Dot And The Line 2008-08-23 10:18:03 AM  
Yukon Callmeal: "Having a wife who provides you with a private jet and eight multimillion-dollar vacation homes provides for a comfortable life. But is this the right preparation for becoming president?" -The right wing on Kerry, 2004

"He's a veteran who has always been ready to serve America." -The left wing in response, 2004.


And the right wing Swift Boated him.

 
calm like a bomb 2008-08-23 10:25:30 AM  
GaryPDX: I wanted Bush to "own" his mess and I really loathed Kerry.

But that still makes you responsible for helping put that incompetent chimpanzee back in office when you knew all along that's what you were doing. Third party candidate, anyone?

 
PacManDreaming [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 10:26:09 AM  
Mordant: I believe "b-b-b-both sides are bad" is in play, no specifics are therefore required.

Bah. Both sides do it. More often than we can count. The Left slammed Quayle for not going to Vietnam and the Right did the exact same thing with Clinton. It's always OK when your guy does it, but if the other side's guy is doing it, you have to get ready to "man the Poop Flingers".

 
calm like a bomb 2008-08-23 10:28:11 AM  
HighOnCraic: Ann Coulter

Just a suggestion- if you post Ann Coulter columns without comment, no one is going to take you seriously. If you post them with positive comments, you are going to be made fun of.

 
El Morro 2008-08-23 10:31:02 AM  
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For those on the right with intellectual integrity, this one's GOT to sting a little.

 
KeatingFive 2008-08-23 10:33:56 AM  
El Morro: For those on the right with intellectual integrity, this one's GOT to sting a little.

It's gonna bother maybe 2 people.

 
milk_plus 2008-08-23 10:35:24 AM  
I voted for Kerry but he looks like Lurch if he was made out of sad leather and McCain is a grumpy, senile, elderly troll of a man. I have to hand it to them, I guess they have a bit more game than I gave them credit for.

 
GodsTumor 2008-08-23 10:37:11 AM  
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Sugar Momma!

 
RandyRick 2008-08-23 10:43:20 AM  
Subby seems to imply that the media has different standards for Republicans versus Democrats. I wonder what Ted Kennedy and Laura Bush think about that.

 
LordJiro 2008-08-23 10:48:38 AM  
Kerry: Uncharismatic Vietnam veteran with a rich heiress wife. Other side constantly accuses him of flip-flopping.

McCain: Kerry + senility.

 
HighOnCraic 2008-08-23 10:54:00 AM  
calm like a bomb: HighOnCraic: Ann Coulter

Just a suggestion- if you post Ann Coulter columns without comment, no one is going to take you seriously. If you post them with positive comments, you are going to be made fun of.


I thought the column was crazy/ironic enough to speak for itself, and I didn't need to add: "And I think she's nuts!"

/Do people really post Ann Coulter columns with positive comments?

 
Now That's What I Call a Taco! 2008-08-23 10:57:50 AM  
Notabunny: If my houses looked like John McCain's house (pops like a real estate bubble) I think I'd be able to remember them.

Click "Take Virtual Tour" under the picture of the pool
speakers on, please


Sweet jeebus. I'm a "Cribs" junkie, and that might be the nicest house I've ever seen.

/If you don't have a 35" HDTV above your bath tub, you're out of touch

 
ravenlore [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 10:58:36 AM  
All right, I've got coffee now...let the fireworks begin.

...ok, let the fireworks continue.

/yeah, like anyone cares about how concious a liter happens to be

 
Now That's What I Call a Taco! 2008-08-23 11:00:51 AM  
Let me revise that:

If you don't have a 46" HDTV on the side wall of your HD theatre room, you're out of touch

 
Now That's What I Call a Taco! 2008-08-23 11:01:45 AM  
If you don't have a wine room AND a chilled wine room, you don't understand the plight of Joe Sixpack

 
The Why Not Guy [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 11:03:06 AM  
Nabb1: True, but if the Democratic base had an attention span better than that of a goldfish it wouldn't be a knock against McCain, either.

The Republicans framed the debate, so it's odd that you hold the Democrats accountable. Oh wait, no, it's not odd at all.

 
Now That's What I Call a Taco! 2008-08-23 11:04:22 AM  
If you don't have statutes blocking the view of one of the multiple 50" plasma screens in your family room, you talk like a fag and your shiat's retarded.

 
HighOnCraic 2008-08-23 11:05:08 AM  
ravenlore: All right, I've got coffee now...let the fireworks begin.

...ok, let the fireworks continue.

/yeah, like anyone cares about how concious a liter happens to be


"Having a wife who provides you with a private jet, eight multimillion-dollar vacation homes and a TotalFark subscription provides for a comfortable life. But is this the right preparation for becoming president?"

TotalFarkers never have to worry about a family budget, but we liters do.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 11:06:38 AM  
El Morro: For those on the right with intellectual integrity, this one's GOT to sting a little.

do you need a public post to say that ? You could have just sent a postcard to the one guy you are talking about.

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2008-08-23 11:25:05 AM  
If I were Obama, I would take this, change Kerry to McCain and wait for someone to say he plagiarized it. It's a trap.

 
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