"I don't like it. I'm a peace maker. (But) this story empowers the PUMA crowd because they see this, and I do too, as ... breaking Senator Obama's word."

Does anyone have a link to the story where Obama promised Hillary the VP slot?

This is an OUTRAGE!

If she was on the short list, does that mean that she was presumed to be the selection? She was dead meat as soon as he quit! He could not afford her, and Bill, to be any part of the face of his administration, should he even get elected.

I love to see the Dems implode over these two idiots!

And lo, there was much screeching and gnashing of teeth, and the run on the delis for cheesecake spun the very Earth out of its heavenly orbit.

I can handle ugly, but this is circus ugly

Ya know, maybe they wouldn't be so "outraged" if their candidate hadn't dropped out of the race in the first place.

But logic and politics have never mixed, and never will.

Are they ever NOT?

the sales of cheesecake must be going through the roof.

I am Cheesecake's complete lack of surprise.

/seriously, just lighten up

Instigating media cat is instigating.

PUMAs: ZOMG OBAMA BROKE HIS PROMISE TO US!!11!!!11 WHARBARGL!!
floor9: Does anyone have a link to that story where Obama promised the VP slot to Clinton?
All of Fark: ...crickets and silence...

That's kinda of what I thought.

Yeah, they're all flattened by the news, I'm sure. I guess Obama can kick those 20 votes behind.

They would be even more amusing if he chose Kathleen Selibus. These PUMAS would be ripping each other out left and right in confusion ...

"I think that Senator Clinton is well known"

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That's 2 things they have in common with the new "conservatives", the first being that most Americans hate them.

floor9: Does anyone have a link to the story where Obama promised Hillary the VP slot?

Did you read the article? They're upset because Obama said "Hillary would be on anyone's short list" and word leaked out that she wasn't vetted (i.e. considered) for the position.

The point is he obviously didn't consider Hillary for the position even though he said he would.

/I wouldn't have picked her either
//Hillary or Edwards might have made me consider voting for McCain

In the words of the great sage Ace Ventura, "Well why don't you cry about it, saddlebags!?"

Somebody's outraged. We don't know who, but surely somebody is.

sarcastrophe: Did you read the article? They're upset because Obama said "Hillary would be on anyone's short list" and word leaked out that she wasn't vetted (i.e. considered) for the position.

The point is he obviously didn't consider Hillary for the position even though he said he would.

I'm sure he considered her... for about six seconds. Then he broke into a fit of uncontrollable laughter.

If cheesecakers want someone to be pissed at, look no further than William Jefferson Clinton. There was no way in hell Hillary was passing the vetting process with that enormous albatross chained around her neck. Apparently over the last decade, his Giveafark filter has degraded to the point that the man is a walking PR disaster waiting to happen.

No amount of consideration would have been enough.

Occam's Chainsaw: I'm sure he considered her... for about six seconds. Then he broke into a fit of uncontrollable laughter.

If cheesecakers want someone to be pissed at, look no further than William Jefferson Clinton. There was no way in hell Hillary was passing the vetting process with that enormous albatross chained around her neck. Apparently over the last decade, his Giveafark filter has degraded to the point that the man is a walking PR disaster waiting to happen.

Considering her for six seconds is six seconds too long. He played politics and said he'd consider her, then didn't. I don't blame him for not even thinking about it... but he shouldn't have said it either. It was the politically correct (in the true sense) thing to say, though.

He could have at least pretended if he's going to say it. Whatever, I'm just glad Hillary isn't going to be the VP.

pnjunction: No amount of consideration would have been enough.

Pretty much this. Unless she was given the VP slot, he would be "lying".

sarcastrophe: The point is he obviously didn't consider Hillary for the position even though he said he would.

because.....he didn't pick her for VP?

log_jammin: because.....he didn't pick her for VP?

Did you RTFA?

sarcastrophe: log_jammin: because.....he didn't pick her for VP?

Did you RTFA?

Yeah, but look at who's whining. James "Chronic MPH" Carville and Paul "Vaginal Silicoidosis" Begala. Who will be next to complain, Harold Ickey?

sarcastrophe: Did you RTFA?

yes.

Are you saying its "The point" or the PUMA's point?

I think the likely scenario went something like this...

Obama: Should I look at Hillary as a running mate?
Obama staffer: Did you forget the 49 folder of dirt and gaffes we picked up on Hillary when we vetted her during the primary? And the 715 on Bill?

It's as if the Hillary-ites wanted Obama to ask Hillary for the files he already had to vet her...and then thumb through them one more time before realizing there was no way in hell.

He didn't even dance with her once. That's just mean.

Control_this: He didn't even dance with her once. That's just mean.

Well, she won't dance with anyone unless they let her lead. And she's stomped on too many toes.

FunkOut: Control_this: He didn't even dance with her once. That's just mean.

Well, she won't dance with anyone unless they let her lead. And she's stomped on too many toes.

And besides, have you seen the ball gowns she makes you wear? Dreadful.

How does anyone manage to care about this stuff. Hillary is probably getting on with her life already, so what are you waiting for? November?

m0llusk: How does anyone manage to care about this stuff. Hillary is probably getting on with her life already, so what are you waiting for? November?

Say that to me with a straight face after the DNC.

Amazing how Hillary's supporters are less outraged about this:

Republican presidential candidate John McCain, looking to improve his standing with the party's conservative voters, said the law that legalized abortion should be overturned.
"I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned," the Arizona senator on Sunday told about 800 people in South Carolina, one of the early voting states.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-02-19-mccain-roe_x.htm

oh for farks sake. these people are going to be the reason McCain wins in November.

Damn the internet memes... this is what flashed in my head.

Multitasking can happen at any time. He probably decided not to pick her as he was saying "Hillary would be on anyone's short list".

This country deserves a better class of candidate -- and the PUMAs are gonna give it to them. It's not about winning the election, it's about sending a message.

Larry Mahnken: This country deserves a better class of candidate -- and the PUMAs are gonna give it to them. It's not about winning the election, it's about sending a message.

"VAGINA VAGINA VAGINA VAGINA VAGINA"?

HighOnCraic: Amazing how Hillary's supporters are less outraged about this:

Republican presidential candidate John McCain, looking to improve his standing with the party's conservative voters, said the law that legalized abortion should be overturned.
"I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned," the Arizona senator on Sunday told about 800 people in South Carolina, one of the early voting states.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-02-19-mccain-roe_x.htm

Probably because they realize it's pure lip-service and a single president doesn't have a chance in hell of getting Roe v. Wade over turned. Why be afraid of something that will never happen?

Occam's Chainsaw: Larry Mahnken: This country deserves a better class of candidate -- and the PUMAs are gonna give it to them. It's not about winning the election, it's about sending a message.

"VAGINA VAGINA VAGINA VAGINA VAGINA"?

Maybe, after all, a severed horses head would be too obvious.

/IMO Any vote stripped from Obama is a good thing.
//Yea he farked Hillary over good, that lying bastard ;)

CanisNoir: Probably because they realize it's pure lip-service and a single president doesn't have a chance in hell of getting Roe v. Wade over turned. Why be afraid of something that will never happen?

Yeah, because single-issue wedge voters are typically rational and reasoned when someone attacks their specific wedge issue.

What do you think the response would be if Obama said, "As president, I will make overturning D.C.-vs-Heller a top priority."?

Oh, please. Even if Obama HAD picked Hillary, these people still would have found some half-assed reason to vote McCain.

They rode on Hillary's name for the primary purpose of trying to hurt Obama. Actually supporting her was a secondary concern.

He could have paid all her debts and crowned her Queen of England and you'd still hear an anemic screech of "misogynist!" from all two dozen PUMA media whores.

HighOnCraic: Amazing how Hillary's supporters are less outraged about this:

Republican presidential candidate John McCain, looking to improve his standing with the party's conservative voters, said the law that legalized abortion should be overturned.
"I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned," the Arizona senator on Sunday told about 800 people in South Carolina, one of the early voting states.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-02-19-mccain-roe_x.htm

now see...even though I agree with keeping abortion legal but personally abhor the practice THAT is the fundamental flaw. Roe v. Wade isn't a law...its a decision that ruled a law unconstitutional. It also said we have some nebulous "right to privacy" that doesn't seem to exist for anything else. Warrantless wiretaps? sure no problem. Health Records? hey, why not. Overweight? better cut down on the cupcakes fatty or we will penalize you. Drugs? Get your scheduled cop beat down and jail time over here please.

Roe v. Wade makes the argument that there is a right to privacy and government can't tell us what to do with our bodies....and yet that premise ONLY holds true for one specific medical procedure and for one instance and group of people.

Occam's Chainsaw: What do you think the response would be if Obama said, "As president, I will make overturning D.C.-vs-Heller a top priority."?

Exactly! Even if Obama doesn't SAY it, some pro-gun organization will run ads claiming that that's a reason to vote against him.

Occam's Chainsaw: CanisNoir: Probably because they realize it's pure lip-service and a single president doesn't have a chance in hell of getting Roe v. Wade over turned. Why be afraid of something that will never happen?

Yeah, because single-issue wedge voters are typically rational and reasoned when someone attacks their specific wedge issue.

What do you think the response would be if Obama said, "As president, I will make overturning D.C.-vs-Heller a top priority."?

Point taken....

JaMorg: HighOnCraic: Amazing how Hillary's supporters are less outraged about this:

Republican presidential candidate John McCain, looking to improve his standing with the party's conservative voters, said the law that legalized abortion should be overturned.
"I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned," the Arizona senator on Sunday told about 800 people in South Carolina, one of the early voting states.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-02-19-mccain-roe_x.htm

now see...even though I agree with keeping abortion legal but personally abhor the practice THAT is the fundamental flaw. Roe v. Wade isn't a law...its a decision that ruled a law unconstitutional. It also said we have some nebulous "right to privacy" that doesn't seem to exist for anything else. Warrantless wiretaps? sure no problem. Health Records? hey, why not. Overweight? better cut down on the cupcakes fatty or we will penalize you. Drugs? Get your scheduled cop beat down and jail time over here please.

Roe v. Wade makes the argument that there is a right to privacy and government can't tell us what to do with our bodies....and yet that premise ONLY holds true for one specific medical procedure and for one instance and group of people.

That is the single best argument against Roe v. Wade I think I've ever heard. You make some very good points... Though in honesty, I'm for extending that right of privacy.

/A person should have a god given right to do whatever they want with thier own body, even if it's harmful and self-destructive. The Government doesn't *own* me.

CanisNoir: The Government doesn't *own* me.

Socrates would disagree.

CanisNoir: Probably because they realize it's pure lip-service and a single president doesn't have a chance in hell of getting Roe v. Wade over turned. Why be afraid of something that will never happen?

Granted, Republicans have been making this false promise for decades, but do you think maybe this "pure lip service" might influence McCain's potential nominees for the Supreme Court?

/Plus, I heard that Obama is pro-infanticide, and if elected he will personally murder random babies on live TV just to show how powerful he is. I read that on a Freeper thread.