She lost. Get over it.

Obama's just the shiniest turd in the box.

"When Obama talks, he doesn't really say what he stands for," Lookliss says. When asked whether McCain says what he really thinks, Lookliss replies, "Yes."

Yeah...sure he does.

are you kidding? he stands for change, and, um change...

//BTW are total tools

"What is your position on XXX?"

"Um, ah, er, uh, euh, [pause] I'll get back to you on that."

notmtwain: "What is your position on XXX?"

"Um, ah, er, uh, euh, [pause] I'll get back to you on that."

That'd be McCain, right?
"Um... [pause] [blink] [pause] [blink] [pause] I don't remember how I voted on that. I'll have my staffers research what my opinion is."

If you don't know what the candidates stand for by now, you shouldn't vote.

I know what Obama stands for.

He stands for hours during those conventions.

/does like Obama
//couldn't resist bad pun

dillenger69: Obama's just the shiniest turd in the box.

Racist.

I think on foreign policy and economic issues they are actually pretty close. Neither one could be half as bad as Bush.

On social issues...not so much. Obama is more socially liberal so I'll probably vote for him.

Heard this the other day. Had to turn off my radio before the stupid became airborne and caused me to forget how to drive my car.

My campaign slogan against Max Cleland way back when...

Why vote for Max Cleland, he doesn't stand for anything.

ducks

That's because those decisions are above his pay grade.

/obvious

He does tell you what he stands for, until he "clarifies" his position.

farkuufarkinfark: My campaign slogan against Max Cleland way back when...

Why vote for Max Cleland, he doesn't stand for anything.

ducks

Can I have the seat beside you? I LOL'd.

Unfortunately this is one Clinton/ McCain talking point that has stuck to Obama, despite his best efforts at hitting it head on by releasing all sorts of specific plans, position papers, etc. Most voters are too stupid or lazy to look to see if a candidate has spoken on an issue, so if the media and the attack ads say he is all style and no substance they just accept that.

Hopefully during the presidential debates Obama will finally put this to rest. I'm eager to watch the comparison between Obama's eloquent responses and McCain's stuttering, blinking confusion. The debates are what allowed Obama to beat Clinton (reject AND denounce!) and it's what will win him the general election.

vernonFL: I think on foreign policy and economic issues they are actually pretty close. Neither one could be half as bad as Bush.

Close on foreign policy? McCain was calling for lines of tanks to be sent rolling towards Baghdad within weeks of 9/11, and his haphazard saber-rattling on the Georgia/Russia conflict is frankly a little frightening. I'm not really sure that we need ol' Flys-off-the-handle-if-he-doesn't-get-his-Metamucil-on-time Johnny with his finger on the button.

Observatory

Off with their heads!

i loathe, people who do not know how to use the internet well enough to type in obama policy, or mccain policy. my grampa can do it and he's pretty out of touch.

it's a kind of willful ignorance that makes me so mad, because the information is out there, hell it's everywhere. you live in the US, you actually have the ability to look it up and should take advantage of that, but you don't, because you want someone else to do it for you. this kind of thinking is farking lazy and pathetic.

catfish696: are you kidding? he stands for change, and, um change...

And hope, hope and change..

The most important fact in this article is that this guy works at a rubber factory.


/I'm rubber you're glue...
//Trojanz?

vernonFL: I think on foreign policy and economic issues they are actually pretty close. Neither one could be half as bad as Bush.

On social issues...not so much. Obama is more socially liberal so I'll probably vote for him.

Normally I agree with you, but McCain is almost exactly like Bush on economic issues and is almost more of a hawk on foreign policy. Ergo --> We farked.

Cyborg77: Unfortunately this is one Clinton/ McCain talking point that has stuck to Obama, despite his best efforts at hitting it head on by releasing all sorts of specific plans, position papers, etc. Most voters are too stupid or lazy to look to see if a candidate has spoken on an issue, so if the media and the attack ads say he is all style and no substance they just accept that.

Hopefully during the presidential debates Obama will finally put this to rest. I'm eager to watch the comparison between Obama's eloquent responses and McCain's stuttering, blinking confusion. The debates are what allowed Obama to beat Clinton (reject AND denounce!) and it's what will win him the general election.

It won't change anything. See how the freepers are STILL going on with that 'fact' that Obama is a Muslim and not US born? There is nothing that Obama could say that they will ever agree with him. If he said that water is wet, they'll deny it and take another stance. They will never be happy.

Just for fun:

The stupid, it hurts.

hate_everything: i loathe, people who do not know how to use the internet well enough to type in obama policy, or mccain policy. my grampa can do it and he's pretty out of touch.

it's a kind of willful ignorance that makes me so mad, because the information is out there, hell it's everywhere. you live in the US, you actually have the ability to look it up and should take advantage of that, but you don't, because you want someone else to do it for you. this kind of thinking is farking lazy and pathetic.

I've had this argument with my father within the last few months. I finally figured out how to get through to the people that won't vote Dem if you threaten them with castration: give them options. I finally said, "Look, McCain is Bush round 3, and you know it. If you don't want to vote Obama, vote for Bob Barr." Since then, my dad's actually been considering voting Libertarian.

Remember, McCain is just as odious to the anti-Dems as he is to the Dems and actual Independents. Use this. Remind them that they have an option, and that a vote for Bob Barr is a vote that tells both D and R to go fark themselves.

Observatory: The McCains increased their budget for household employees from $184,000 in 2006 to $273,000 in 2007, according to John McCain's tax returns...

...That's right. The McCains pay $270,000 per year for butlers and maids--that's $50,000 more than the median value of an American home.

WHAT???

YOU NEED TO CHANGE YOUR DROOL CUP??!!!

It's hard to hear what Obama really stands for over the drone of the change zombies.

hate_everything: i loathe, people who do not know how to use the internet well enough to type in obama policy, or mccain policy. my grampa can do it and he's pretty out of touch.

it's a kind of willful ignorance that makes me so mad, because the information is out there, hell it's everywhere. you live in the US, you actually have the ability to look it up and should take advantage of that, but you don't, because you want someone else to do it for you. this kind of thinking is farking lazy and pathetic.

But it's just so much easier to repeat things that I hear on FoxNews. I'm much rather have my opinion spoon fed to me, rather than think for myself, and do a little research online.

/best impression of a neocon dope I could do.

dillenger69: Obama's just the shiniest turd in the box.

I guess that makes McCain the douche, huh?

But when it comes to war policy, he says McCain has a better approach than Obama - a sentiment also reflected in the poll, where voters gave McCain the edge by 10 percentage points.

It would probably be higher, if he could figure out which group to bomb...

dillenger69: Obama's just the shiniest turd in the box.

Which makes the people who want to vote for the dullest turd in the box look kinda silly.

hate_everything: i loathe, people who do not know how to use the internet well enough to type in obama policy, or mccain policy. my grampa can do it and he's pretty out of touch.

it's a kind of willful ignorance that makes me so mad, because the information is out there, hell it's everywhere. you live in the US, you actually have the ability to look it up and should take advantage of that, but you don't, because you want someone else to do it for you. this kind of thinking is farking lazy and pathetic.

I think the concern for most people after this administration is we want more "how" and less "what" when it comes to policy.

HOW are you going to pull that troop plan you have off? Do you foresee the possible negative repercussions (and what are they) or should we just accept it is the right thing to do?

HOW is the tax plan you are describing both going to create/keep jobs and stay in budget? Do you foresee the possible negative repercussions (and what are they) or should we just accept it is the right thing to do?

It simply isn't enough for either candidate to say "I am for x" or that "I will increase y to z". We want to know how, how much, and that you though this through. We are information consumers now.

I don't think either candidate is doing that enough and Obama will continue to take flack because he is creating an aura of solution while offering no more real subtantive "hows" and "though the challenge will be"s than McCain.

hate_everything: i loathe, people who do not know how to use the internet well enough to type in obama policy, or mccain policy. my grampa can do it and he's pretty out of touch.

it's a kind of willful ignorance that makes me so mad, because the information is out there, hell it's everywhere. you live in the US, you actually have the ability to look it up and should take advantage of that, but you don't, because you want someone else to do it for you. this kind of thinking is farking lazy and pathetic.


Exactly. Stuff like this makes me glad voter turnout is lower compared to other first-world nations.

canyoneer: Off with their heads!

hey that shiat gets results

Heh.

Well, we know what McCain stands for - tax breaks for him and his rich friends.

pontechango: Heh.

Yeah. I hate her too.

But, I bet she wouldn't be in a statistical dead heat with McCain right now.

Obama is beginning to crumble. The Convention couldn't come at a better time for him. (Or worse if Hillary is up to a coup)

IXI Jim IXI : Which makes the people who want to vote for the dullest turd in the box look kinda silly.

But wouldn't the dullest turd smell the best (i.e. not smell the worst) because presumably it is older and has already started the decomposition process?


And really, what a wonderful analogy for politics. Presented only with a box full of turds of all shapes, sizes, and smells, voters are given the task of choosing the least offensive, odorous, and watery piece of shiat from the lot.

kuhns_m: Well, we know what McCain stands for - tax breaks for him and his rich friends.

That's right. farking rich people make me sick. With their big cars and maids and stuff.

I should have their money.

*fires up bong*

Mike Lookliss votes with his vagina.



/cheesecake

Moses To Sandy Koufax: But wouldn't the dullest turd smell the best (i.e. not smell the worst) because presumably it is older and has already started the decomposition process?

Sometimes, in order to move the country forward, you have to really raise a stink.

kuhns_m: Well, we know what McCain stands for - tax breaks for him and his rich friends.

Which would include Obama. Obama's plan does nothing for the McCain family. One candidate is for lowering taxes for his opponent. The other will make his opponent and his family pay 3/4 of a million more per year in taxes.

NeverDrunk23: If he said that water is wet

Oh man, I can see Limbaugh/O'Reilly/the Freepers now.

"Latest news from the HUSSEIN Demoncrat camp...Osa...er I mean, Obama, now apparently thinks himself some kind of scientist. Heh I mean, we already have Al "I invented the internet" Gore trying to play the hippie know-it-all environmentalist, do we really need more of this from the tree-hugging, elitist, welfare-collecting liberals? Apparently he made this claim, you see, that water...is wet. Well today with me I have a respected associate professor from the I-Love-Jesus college in Texas, with a major in Christology, also author of the best-selling book "How to Completely Ignore Facts and Reality", who claims that water is in fact not wet. I tell you, that's all the proof I need. Where's all your precious science now, HUSSEIN? I guess those Muslims he was raised with didn't exactly teach him all the facts, how about that."

flashfry: hate_everything: i loathe, people who do not know how to use the internet well enough to type in obama policy, or mccain policy. my grampa can do it and he's pretty out of touch.

it's a kind of willful ignorance that makes me so mad, because the information is out there, hell it's everywhere. you live in the US, you actually have the ability to look it up and should take advantage of that, but you don't, because you want someone else to do it for you. this kind of thinking is farking lazy and pathetic.

I think the concern for most people after this administration is we want more "how" and less "what" when it comes to policy.

HOW are you going to pull that troop plan you have off? Do you foresee the possible negative repercussions (and what are they) or should we just accept it is the right thing to do?

HOW is the tax plan you are describing both going to create/keep jobs and stay in budget? Do you foresee the possible negative repercussions (and what are they) or should we just accept it is the right thing to do?

It simply isn't enough for either candidate to say "I am for x" or that "I will increase y to z". We want to know how, how much, and that you though this through. We are information consumers now.

I don't think either candidate is doing that enough and Obama will continue to take flack because he is creating an aura of solution while offering no more real subtantive "hows" and "though the challenge will be"s than McCain.

It's been a while since I checked, but during the primaries, Obama's website was War & Peace, while McCain's (and most other candidates') was the brochure on cataracts you look through at the optometrist's office because you're bored.

Obama's was chock full of fairly specific information and plans that made a coherent whole, while McCain's was full of contradictory bulletpoints like:

- Expand the army! 5 more ships for the navy!
- Cut taxes!
- We can't cut anything else until all pork is out of the budget, and cutting that pork will balance the budget, PORK PORK PORK!

How many debates did Obama and Clinton have? Like over 20? If you seriously still do not know what Obama stances are, then you were never going to vote for him anyways.

IXI Jim IXI: Sometimes, in order to move the country forward, you have to really raise a stink.

True. And when you're looking to raise a stink, your best bet is somebody, who, like a skunk, is half black and half white.

"When Obama talks, he doesn't really say what he stands for," says registered Democrat who apparently hasn't been near a TV, radio, newspaper or computer in months

FTFY

wyltoknow: NeverDrunk23: If he said that water is wet

Oh man, I can see Limbaugh/O'Reilly/the Freepers now.

"Latest news from the HUSSEIN Demoncrat camp...Osa...er I mean, Obama, now apparently thinks himself some kind of scientist. Heh I mean, we already have Al "I invented the internet" Gore trying to play the hippie know-it-all environmentalist, do we really need more of this from the tree-hugging, elitist, welfare-collecting liberals? Apparently he made this claim, you see, that water...is wet. Well today with me I have a respected associate professor from the I-Love-Jesus college in Texas, with a major in Christology, also author of the best-selling book "How to Completely Ignore Facts and Reality", who claims that water is in fact not wet. I tell you, that's all the proof I need. Where's all your precious science now, HUSSEIN? I guess those Muslims he was raised with didn't exactly teach him all the facts, how about that."

That's pretty good. Needs more freedom, though.

'Today, Barrack Hussein Obama was speaking to his adorning worshipers and mentioned this line: '...like how water is wet....' Ladies and gentlemen of this great patriotic country, Mr. Obama has now started talking down to this great freedom-loving populace as if you are all imbeciles. To think this democrat doesn't believe that we the people do not understand that water is wet. He talks about 'change' and 'believe,' but apparently he does not 'believe' that we are intelligent. To use that line is an insult to the great minds of this free country AND the patriots that died to defend our blessed land from evil. They DIED so the common American can get an education and learn that water is wet.

'BUT....this liberal believes that we as a great patriotic country cannot educate ourselves on this fact and needs to teach us himself. He spits on the blessed patriots' graves that worked so hard to shape this great country. How elitist of him! Believing that we can only learn when he speaks. Do him and his inflated, arrogant celebrity-ego really believe that just because he says something, it will be true? He want you to cut-and-run from the library and instead feed you his own 'facts.'

'Ladies and gentlemen of this great freedom-loving country that God blesses everyday, this man does not believe that you are smart enough to open a book and to see that you can educate yourself that water is indeed wet. He insults your intelligence. So please, America, land that we love, show him how smart we are by NOT voting for this ni..nigh and mighty empty suit. Stay the course! Prove to us that water is wet and Osama is bad. God bless America!'

/OK, I may have overdid it.

fallingcow: Obama's was chock full of fairly specific information and plans that made a coherent whole, while McCain's was full of contradictory bulletpoints like:

Be that as it may, I don't see my ideal, which for every issue would be a short description of the issue and a description of the candidate's stance on the issue among the other stances and why the candidate's position is better and/or more feasible and what challenges the president will face tring to get it accomplished and the risks involved.

And just for the major say, top 8 issues.