Pretty sure Cash was a Democrat...didn't he back Carter?

robsul82: Pretty sure Cash was a Democrat...didn't he back Carter?

robsul82: Pretty sure Cash was a Democrat...didn't he back Carter?

I'd rather back Reese Witherspoon

It is pretty insulting for anyone from any party to assume some dead celebrity would vote one way or another.

I'm fairly certain if one were to examine Johnny's obvious and stated likes and values, they'd fall more along conservative lines. At least in his later life once he cleaned/sobered up and became entrenched domestically.

I am fairly certain that Johnny Cash would prefer the light, delicious taste of Miracle Whip to real mayonnaise.

Johnny Cash must have really loved Pancakes.

Nestea Plunge: Pretty sure Cash was apolitical.

You mean well-known people didn't always wear their political beliefs on their sleeves? Then how did people know who to vote for.

I know it's her dad and all, but chick needs to lighten up.

Well, you wonder why I always dress in black,
Why you never see bright colors on my back,
And why does my appearance seem to have a somber tone.
Well, there's a reason for the things that I have on.

I wear the black for the poor and the beaten down,
Livin' in the hopeless, hungry side of town,
I wear it for the prisoner who has long paid for his crime,
But is there because he's a victim of the times.

I wear the black for those who never read,
Or listened to the words that Jesus said,
About the road to happiness through love and charity,
Why, you'd think He's talking straight to you and me.

Well, we're doin' mighty fine, I do suppose,
In our streak of lightnin' cars and fancy clothes,
But just so we're reminded of the ones who are held back,
Up front there ought 'a be a Man In Black.

I wear it for the sick and lonely old,
For the reckless ones whose bad trip left them cold,
I wear the black in mournin' for the lives that could have been,
Each week we lose a hundred fine young men.

And, I wear it for the thousands who have died,
Believen' that the Lord was on their side,
I wear it for another hundred thousand who have died,
Believen' that we all were on their side.

Well, there's things that never will be right I know,
And things need changin' everywhere you go,
But 'til we start to make a move to make a few things right,
You'll never see me wear a suit of white.

Ah, I'd love to wear a rainbow every day,
And tell the world that everything's OK,
But I'll try to carry off a little darkness on my back,
'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black.

Sure sounds to me like he'd support the War on Drugs, mandatory minimum sentences, slashing welfare and education funding, and waging futile wars. A definite die-hard Republican. But I can't speak for the dead any more than John Rich can.

mr_bunny: I am fairly certain that Johnny Cash would prefer the light, delicious taste of Miracle Whip to real mayonnaise.

+1

bigpeeler: I'm fairly certain if one were to examine Johnny's obvious and stated likes and values, they'd fall more along conservative lines. At least in his later life once he cleaned/sobered up and became entrenched domestically.

Because no democrats have good, stable family lives and don't do drugs or alcohol.

I won't speculate too much about Cash. It isn't my place, just like it isn't Rich's place. I would note that on a specific issue, prisoners' rights, Cash did lean greatly to the "left" side. I don't know if he identified as "liberal" because of it.

That and in '72, when he performed at the White House for Nixon, he refused to play "Okie from Muskogee" and "Welfare Cadillac" (the more typical right-wing rah rah songs, about anti-drug use and anti-welfare), and instead played "The Ballad of Ira Hayes," "Man in Black," and "What is Truth?"

36 years ago, but at least back then he seemed... well, not conservative.

Johnny Savage: I know it's her dad and all, but chick needs to lighten up.

I don't know, if a presidential campaign, regardless of political bend, presumptuously threw my dead family member's name around without permission, I'd be rightly pissed.

Really? Thats a snap?

Johnny Savage: I know it's her dad and all, but chick needs to lighten up.

Roseanne Cash wrote, "It is appalling to me that people still want to invoke my father's name, five years after his death, to ascribe beliefs, ideals, values and loyalties to him that cannot possibly be determined, and to try to further their own agendas by doing so.
"This is especially dangerous in the case of political affiliation. It is unfair and presumptuous to use him to bolster any platform."

I see nothing particularly egregious or offensive here... What do you mean by "lighten up"?

Rich is a country rapper. What else could he say?

/// New country is the fail

Cue "Oh Snap!" flowchart

Bloody William: bigpeeler: I'm fairly certain if one were to examine Johnny's obvious and stated likes and values, they'd fall more along conservative lines. At least in his later life once he cleaned/sobered up and became entrenched domestically.

Because no democrats have good, stable family lives and don't do drugs or alcohol.

I won't speculate too much about Cash. It isn't my place, just like it isn't Rich's place. I would note that on a specific issue, prisoners' rights, Cash did lean greatly to the "left" side. I don't know if he identified as "liberal" because of it.

That and in '72, when he performed at the White House for Nixon, he refused to play "Okie from Muskogee" and "Welfare Cadillac" (the more typical right-wing rah rah songs, about anti-drug use and anti-welfare), and instead played "The Ballad of Ira Hayes," "Man in Black," and "What is Truth?"

36 years ago, but at least back then he seemed... well, not conservative.

He was one of the few "country" artists to criticize the Vietnam War, which led to him catching a lot of shiat from the John Riches of the day.

/by the way, "Mr. Rich", your pro-McCain song absolutely blows
//and that has nothing to do with me supporting Obama
///it's just a shiatty song

John Rich needs to ride the 309.

Bloody William: Johnny Savage: I know it's her dad and all, but chick needs to lighten up.

I don't know, if a presidential campaign, regardless of political bend, presumptuously threw my dead family member's name around without permission, I'd be rightly pissed.


If McCain or his campaign said this, yeah. But some dude performing at a McCain event running his mouth... not so much.

Her father was a celebrity. This is bound to happen. She should have thicker skin than this by now.

Spanky_McFarksalot: Really? Thats a snap?

I'll need to consult the diagram to be sure.

Crunch61: Johnny Savage: I know it's her dad and all, but chick needs to lighten up.

Roseanne Cash wrote, "It is appalling to me that people still want to invoke my father's name, five years after his death, to ascribe beliefs, ideals, values and loyalties to him that cannot possibly be determined, and to try to further their own agendas by doing so.
"This is especially dangerous in the case of political affiliation. It is unfair and presumptuous to use him to bolster any platform."

I see nothing particularly egregious or offensive here... What do you mean by "lighten up"?

Anytime anyone invokes a historical figure (which he is now because he is dead) they are trying to make a point. In this case Rich was speaking positively about both Cash and the candidate he is choosing. I don't see this as being a reason to be appalled.

If Rich had said that Cash would have loved Obama because they both did drugs early on in there lives, she would have a reason to get appalled.

Considering he was a close friend to Jimmy Carter and opposed the Iraq war, I have a hard time believing he would endorse McCain. Of course I don't know who he would've endorsed either.

Johnny Savage: Crunch61: Johnny Savage: I know it's her dad and all, but chick needs to lighten up.

Roseanne Cash wrote, "It is appalling to me that people still want to invoke my father's name, five years after his death, to ascribe beliefs, ideals, values and loyalties to him that cannot possibly be determined, and to try to further their own agendas by doing so.
"This is especially dangerous in the case of political affiliation. It is unfair and presumptuous to use him to bolster any platform."

I see nothing particularly egregious or offensive here... What do you mean by "lighten up"?

Anytime anyone invokes a historical figure (which he is now because he is dead) they are trying to make a point. In this case Rich was speaking positively about both Cash and the candidate he is choosing. I don't see this as being a reason to be appalled.

If Rich had said that Cash would have loved Obama because they both did drugs early on in there lives, she would have a reason to get appalled.


Even then, I don't know if it's worth the energy to bother.

Don't mention his name,
and his name will pass on

The one on the right is on the left by Johnny Cash


There once was a musical troupe
A pickin' singin' folk group
They sang the mountain ballads
And the folk songs of our land

They were long on musical ability
Folks thought they would go far
But political incompatibility led to their downfall

Well, the one on the right was on the left
And the one in the middle was on the right
And the one on the left was in the middle
And the guy in the rear was a Methodist

This musical aggregation toured the entire nation
Singing the traditional ballads
And the folk songs of our land
They performed with great virtuosity
And soon they were the rage
But political animosity prevailed upon the stage

Well, the one on the right was on the left
And the one in the middle was on the right
And the one on the left was in the middle
And the guy in the rear burned his driver's license

Well the curtain had ascended
A hush fell on the crowd
As thousands there were gathered to hear The folk songs of our land
But they took their politics seriously
And that night at the concert hall
As the audience watched deliriously
They had a free-for-all

Well, the one on the right was on the bottom
And the one in the middle was on the top
And the one on the left got a broken arm
And the guy in the rear, said, "Oh dear"

Now this should be a lesson if you plan to start a folk group
Don't go mixin' politics with the folk songs of our land
Just work on harmony and diction
Play your banjo well
And if you have political convictions keep them to yourself

Now, the one on the left works in a bank
And the one in the middle drives a truck
The one on the right's an all-night deejay
And the guy in the rear got drafted

No Such Agency: Well, you wonder why I always dress in black,
Why you never see bright colors on my back,
And why does my appearance seem to have a somber tone.
Well, there's a reason for the things that I have on.

I wear the black for the poor and the beaten down,
Livin' in the hopeless, hungry side of town,
I wear it for the prisoner who has long paid for his crime,
But is there because he's a victim of the times.

I wear the black for those who never read,
Or listened to the words that Jesus said,
About the road to happiness through love and charity,
Why, you'd think He's talking straight to you and me.

Well, we're doin' mighty fine, I do suppose,
In our streak of lightnin' cars and fancy clothes,
But just so we're reminded of the ones who are held back,
Up front there ought 'a be a Man In Black.

I wear it for the sick and lonely old,
For the reckless ones whose bad trip left them cold,
I wear the black in mournin' for the lives that could have been,
Each week we lose a hundred fine young men.

And, I wear it for the thousands who have died,
Believin' that the Lord was on their side,
I wear it for another hundred thousand who have died,
Believin' that we all were on their side.

Well, there's things that never will be right I know,
And things need changin' everywhere you go,
But 'til we start to make a move to make a few things right,
You'll never see me wear a suit of white.

Ah, I'd love to wear a rainbow every day,
And tell the world that everything's OK,
But I'll try to carry off a little darkness on my back,
'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black.



So with John McCain's choice of ten opulent places to live (he had a lake built for one of them... he didn't build NEAR a lake, he had a lake built); for the debacle that is Gitmo (a place where prisoners are held with no evidence, just because they're victims of their time); for those that claim Jesus or God will cause it to rain in Denver if they pray hard enough; for the Conservative belief that people are held back because they deserve their station in life; for the neglect and squalor our servicemen and women have to face in Walter Reed, and the cuts to VA funding for political gain; the party that turned its back on the losses of our fine young men in battle by shipping their bodies back as freight; for a core demographic that believes their narrow interpretation of an anthropomorphic deity is correct and everyone else is inferior as a result; AND CASH WOULD SUPPORT McCAIN???

1derful: The one on the right is on the left by Johnny Cash


There once was a musical troupe
A pickin' singin' folk group
They sang the mountain ballads
And the folk songs of our land

They were long on musical ability
Folks thought they would go far
But political incompatibility led to their downfall

Well, the one on the right was on the left
And the one in the middle was on the right
And the one on the left was in the middle
And the guy in the rear was a Methodist

This musical aggregation toured the entire nation
Singing the traditional ballads
And the folk songs of our land
They performed with great virtuosity
And soon they were the rage
But political animosity prevailed upon the stage

Well, the one on the right was on the left
And the one in the middle was on the right
And the one on the left was in the middle
And the guy in the rear burned his driver's license

Well the curtain had ascended
A hush fell on the crowd
As thousands there were gathered to hear The folk songs of our land
But they took their politics seriously
And that night at the concert hall
As the audience watched deliriously
They had a free-for-all

Well, the one on the right was on the bottom
And the one in the middle was on the top
And the one on the left got a broken arm
And the guy in the rear, said, "Oh dear"

Now this should be a lesson if you plan to start a folk group
Don't go mixin' politics with the folk songs of our land
Just work on harmony and diction
Play your banjo well
And if you have political convictions keep them to yourself

Now, the one on the left works in a bank
And the one in the middle drives a truck
The one on the right's an all-night deejay
And the guy in the rear got drafted

^THIS^

jetzzfan: Cue "Oh Snap!" flowchart



/obligatory
//glad to do my duty

Remember, it's generally not a good idea to speak on behalf of the dead, especially when you aren't a family member, spouse, or close friend.

YouTube of Cash performing The One On The Right Is On The Left.

I suggest any news programs airing this as a story can use this as a direct quote from Johnny Cash.

John Rich: can't even get a whole band to endorse his man. Pathetic stunt.

Maybe stunt isn't quite the right word. But it rhymes.

Johnny Savage: In this case Rich was speaking positively about both Cash and the candidate he is choosing that I support. I don't see this as being a reason to be appalled.

If Rich had said that Cash would have loved Obama because they both did drugs early on in there lives I personally will not be voting for him, she would have a reason I would expect her to get appalled.

FTFY

John Rich is generally a jerk. I would never believe in a million years that The Man in Black would have supported a toady like McCain.

You know who else would be a McCain supporter if he was alive?

Hint: he was a terrific dancer.

bigpeeler: I'm fairly certain if one were to examine Johnny's obvious and stated likes and values, they'd fall more along conservative lines. At least in his later life once he cleaned/sobered up and became entrenched domestically.

and I'm fairly certain you're wrong. Republicans don't own "family values". Despite what you've been told Democrats aren't evil godless heathens out to destroy the family.

John Rich is only concerned about one thing. Having to pay taxes on those hundreds of millions of dollars he has.

Hobodeluxe: bigpeeler: I'm fairly certain if one were to examine Johnny's obvious and stated likes and values, they'd fall more along conservative lines. At least in his later life once he cleaned/sobered up and became entrenched domestically.

and I'm fairly certain you're wrong. Republicans don't own "family values". Despite what you've been told Democrats aren't evil godless heathens out to destroy the family.

He may have something there, though... that would explain why Johnny Cash recorded with noted right-leaning musicians such as Kris Kristopherson, Willie Nelson, and U2.

No way Johnny would have supported the Republican. He was dark, but not evil, too.

/wants to have Roseanne's babies

If he was a republican, he would have cheated on his first with a young boy, not another woman.

Ace Frehley's Ghost: Hobodeluxe: bigpeeler: I'm fairly certain if one were to examine Johnny's obvious and stated likes and values, they'd fall more along conservative lines. At least in his later life once he cleaned/sobered up and became entrenched domestically.

and I'm fairly certain you're wrong. Republicans don't own "family values". Despite what you've been told Democrats aren't evil godless heathens out to destroy the family.

He may have something there, though... that would explain why Johnny Cash recorded with noted right-leaning musicians such as Kris Kristopherson, Willie Nelson, and U2.

HulkHands: If he was a republican, he would have cheated on his first with a young boy, not another woman.



/obligatory

Nestea Plunge: Pretty sure Cash was apolitical.

He may have been, but he was definitely left-leaning in sentiment. A populist, if nothing else.

Early one mornin' while makin' the rounds
I took a shot of cocaine and I shot my woman down
I went right home and I went to bed I stuck that lovin' 44 beneath my head

Got up next mornin' and I grabbed that gun took a shot of cocaine and away I run
Made a good run but I run too slow they overtook me down in Juarez Mexico

Late in the hot joints takin' the pills in walked the sheriff from Jericho Hill
He said Willy Lee your name is not Jack Brown
You're the dirty hack that shot your woman down
Said yes oh yes my name is Willy Lee if you've got the warrant just aread it to me
Shot her down because she made me slow
I thought I was her daddy but she had five more

When I was arrested I was dressed in black
They put me on a train and they took me back
Had no friend for to go my bail they slapped my dried up carcass in that country jail

Early next mornin' bout a half past nine I spied the sheriff coming down the line
Talked and he coughed as he cleared his throat
He said come on you dirty heck into that district court
Into the courtroom my trial began where I was handled by twelve honest men
Just before the jury started out I saw the little judge commence to look about

In about five minutes in walked the man holding the verdict in his right hand
The verdict read in the first degree I hollered Lordy Lordy have a mercy on me

The judge he smiled as he picked up his pin 99 years in the Folsom pen
99 years underneath that ground I can't forget the day I shot that bad biatch down
Come on you've gotta listen unto me lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be
-Cocaine Blues

I don't know, could relate to Bush or Obama.

Delia, oh, Delia Delia all my life
If I hadn't have shot poor
Delia I'd have had her for my wife
Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone

I went up to Memphis
And I met Delia there Found her in her parlor
And I tied to her chair
Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone

She was low down and trifling
And she was cold and mean
Kind of evil make me want to Grab my sub machine
Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone

First time I shot her I shot her in the side
Hard to watch her suffer
But with the second shot she died
Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone

But jailer, oh, jailer Jailer,
I can't sleep 'Cause all around my bedside
I hear the patter of Delia's feet
Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone

So if you woman's devilish
You can let her run
Or you can bring her down and do her
Like Delia got done
Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone
-Delia's Gone

But now he is talking about shooting someone again. Would he be more connected to the murderous Clintons or the face-shooting Cheney (not the first Republican to unload in another man's face)!

Rich, appearing at recent rally for McCain, reportedly said, "Somebody's got to walk the line in the country. They've got to walk it unapologetically."

What does this even mean?

John Rich, you're a decent musician, but you're not exactly a deep political thinker. Go back to writing humorous songs with euphemisms about hot women riding your cock.

I love the mans music but his personal life was screwed up enough that I'd not put a whole lot of stock in his political or personal opinions in any case.

So who really gives a fark who he would support?

I'm sure he would back Obama. After all the dead overwhelmingly vote democrat

Digitalstrange: I love the mans music but his personal life was screwed up enough that I'd not put a whole lot of stock in his political or personal opinions in any case.

So who really gives a fark who he would support?

Hey, his life had been pretty screwed up, but he seems to have straightened it out pretty well. It is hard to learn from people who have never made mistakes.

bmongar: I'm sure he would back Obama. After all the dead overwhelmingly vote democrat

That is because they are no longer afraid that the "terrists" are going to get them.