Subby's title doesn't quite match what I saw in the video, but I'll ignore that.

Anyway, the interviewer was wondering about new "big ideas" coming from Republicans, and Jindal couldn't think of any. Frankly I'd be more frightened of Republicans if they did have lots of "big ideas".

Y'see, in my opinion just about every huge mess of the last 7.5 years happened BECAUSE Republicans had "big ideas": 'Ronnie vanquished the Evil Empire single-handed, now we can remake the entire Middle East in our own image, starting with Iraq ...' Or 'Tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts OH shiat THE farkING BRIDGE JUST FELL DOWN'.

Screw ideology. Just govern well.

Just once I'd like someone to ask Mr. Maverick "Hey, John -- you're the maverick. Name some parts of the Republican platform that, in your opinion, are horrible policy ideas and would be a disaster if implemented... or, if you like the platform as-is, give us several instances where you & your policy group fought successfully to get new, better ideas in there".

Conservatives don't have ideas. They just string words together randomly, hoping they will work together to inflame their listeners.

Next time ask the surrogate, "So, besides McCain/Feingold, what Congressional accomplishment of John McCain's 25 year career do you think reflects well on McCain's judgement?"

I find myself more likely to vote for a Republican who has no ideas. I beleive all human misery for the last 10,000 years has been caused by a Republican with a big idea.

s%besides McCain/Feingold%besides McCain/Feingold and the surge%

BilltheThrill: I find myself more likely to vote for a Republican who has no ideas. I beleive all human misery for the last 10,000 years has been caused by a Republican with a big idea.

You run the risk that he has a big idea that's so awful he won't admit to it during the campaign, or when he's implementing it, or when it's blown up in his face.

Lawnchair: s%besides McCain/Feingold%besides McCain/Feingold and the surge%

That had me totally confused for the first half-dozen readings because I'm so used to thinking of / as it's the 'default' delimiter.

phaseolus: just about every huge mess of the last 7.5 years in human history happened BECAUSE Republicans the government had "big ideas"

Fixed.

I love how McCain carps on about Obama being inexperienced, when this fetus (he's like 35) is in the running for his veep spot, add in that the guy is a faith healer, and I seriously hope that McCain pancakes out and selects Jindal.

Jindel has been governor for about 6 whole months now and the Republican's are claiming Obama is too inexperienced?

Besides, last I heard, Jindel may have his own little corruption issue brewing from his time in the state legislature.

Small pancakes compared to what McCain's going to look like during the debates.

dangelder: Conservatives don't have ideas. They just string words together randomly, hoping they will work together to inflame their listeners.

They also try to sound angry when they string their words together.

BilltheThrill: I find myself more likely to vote for a Republican who has no ideas. I beleive all human misery for the last 10,000 years has been caused by a Republican with a big idea.

Keating 5?

phaseolus: Subby's title doesn't quite match what I saw in the video

Yeah, I agree.

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Muta: dangelder: Conservatives don't have ideas. They just string words together randomly, hoping they will work together to inflame their listeners.

They also try to sound angry when they string their words together.

Liberal hogwash.

Muta: dangelder: Conservatives don't have ideas. They just string words together randomly, hoping they will work together to inflame their listeners.

They also try to sound angry when they string their words together.

"Go negative early": the penultimate GOP mantra.

alacy52: phaseolus: just about every huge mess of the last 7.5 years in human history happened BECAUSE Republicans the government had "big ideas"

Fixed.

Yeah, wasn't it great how the the Egpytians spontaneously built the Pyramids, Romans citizens all just decided to build roads and aqueducts all over Europe, private businesses built the Intercontinental Railway and went to the Moon. Good thing government didn't get involved.

culebra: "Go negative early": the penultimate GOP mantra.

... so what's the final mantra?

Alacy52: I hear Microsoft is even thinking about rolling out a way for computers to talk to one another over phone lines. Government could never come up with something like that.

haha comparing Jindal to Obama.

In Governor Jindal's short career he has had alot more quantifiable achievements than Barry has.

Still voting for Obama so I can tell my kids I voted for the first black president and as soon as Bobby goes for Prez in '12 I'll be first in line in the primaries.

bulok: In Governor Jindal's short career he has had alot more quantifiable achievements than Barry has.

Name three.

His movies suck, why would anyone want to make him VP?

/Sixth Sense was good
//Unbreakable was pretty good though

I promise you, Republicans with no ideas will also have no clue, and glom onto the first idea that floats by their advisers. Remember, everyone elected Bush II the first time because "Hey, he's just a down-to-earth simple guy with no ambitions, and no experience; we'll just let him listen to all the smart people in his cabinet".

lawboy87: Jindel has been governor for about 6 whole months now and the Republican's are claiming Obama is too inexperienced?

Jindal, who has far more "celebrity" status among Louisiana Republicans than Obama has anywhere, mostly because it allows conservatives to say "See? We actually voted for someone who wasn't a white man." He was hand-picked for several administrative positions by Republican administrations here and in Washington, in none of which he did anything notable. Except serve briefly and pad his resume.

And I hope everyone outside of Louisiana is aware that during both his gubernatorial campaigns, he said in public gatherings that he didn't "believe" in evolution. This from a Rhodes Scholar. Either he's cynically playing to the ignorant redneck right wing, which is HUGE down here, or he's actually ignorant -- which says something about the Rhodes Scholar program, doesn't it?

dangelder: Liberal hogwash.

Well somebody has to try to wash the crap off the damn Republican hogs. . . .

The biggest reason to vote for McCain:

Divided government. Sweet, delicious, magnificent gridlock.

If you don't trust either party and the odds of a third party's success is nil, the best you can do is handcuff the bastards to each other. With any luck, they'll behave so atrociously that a third party does become viable.

You people DO know that Jindal is a secret Hindoo, right?

/not that there's anything wrong with that
//cows on the White House lawn

Gov. Jindal's already declared that he's not interested in the VP spot, and there's enough crazy in his writings that Sen. McCain would be asking for trouble if he picked him anyway.

Argh2: private businesses built the Intercontinental Railway

Yes, after the government gave them millions in pay and land to do it.

And all those other things, not

::pat pat:: yes, it's hard to understand that a lot of crap your shoveled are lies. You'll just have to grow up.

Gulper Eel: The biggest reason to vote for McCain:

Divided government. Sweet, delicious, magnificent gridlock.

If you don't trust either party and the odds of a third party's success is nil, the best you can do is handcuff the bastards to each other. With any luck, they'll behave so atrociously that a third party does become viable.

No man. Gridlock strengthens both parties. They can both claim that they're trying to push through legislation the base desperately wants (YAAYY!!!), but the other party is blocking it (BOOOOO!!!)

The way to a third party is to totally neuter the Republicans, the frothing dumbass party, until the message finally sinks in that we as a nation will not tolerate them anymore.

At that point, splitting the Democrats into two parties, one clasically progressive and one classically liberal, becomes realistic, and healthy for the country.

Then we have three parties: impotent nutcases, connected progressives, and staid conservatives. Perfect.

BilltheThrill: I find myself more likely to vote for a Republican who has no ideas. I beleive all human misery for the last 10,000 years has been caused by a Republican politician with a big idea.

FTFY

I've yet to hear an Obama support give a single reason to vote for Obama, other than that Obama is a liberal.

If by "Cannot name a single reason to vote for John McCain" you mean "unable to meet the impossible standard of giving a liberal a reason they'd actually accept" then I suppose you're right.

randomjsa: I've yet to hear an Obama support give a single reason to vote for Obama, other than that Obama is a liberal.

If by "Cannot name a single reason to vote for John McCain" you mean "unable to meet the impossible standard of giving a liberal a reason they'd actually accept" then I suppose you're right.

Liberals are excellent at governance. It's been proven over and over again. Non-liberals are only good at getting elected on the votes of ignorant people and PR.

randomjsa: I've yet to hear an Obama support give a single reason to vote for Obama, other than that Obama is a liberal.

His clear consistent views on Iraq, the fact he will rebalance the Supreme Court, and his universal healtcare plan.

randomjsa: I've yet to hear an Obama support give a single reason to vote for Obama, other than that Obama is a liberal.

Job of the President is to protect and defend the Constitution.

I'm guessing Obama will do a better job than the guy who gives big hugs to the guy who's tearing it apart.

dangelder: They can both claim that they're trying to push through legislation the base desperately wants (YAAYY!!!), but the other party is blocking it (BOOOOO!!!)

The way to a third party is to totally neuter the Republicans, the frothing dumbass party

Pay attention. We have two frothing dumbass parties. The idea is to force the most ragingly stupid and corrupt among them to the front and center, where we can keep an eye on them, until even industrial-strength koolaid and gerrymandering won't work its usual magic.

In the meantime they fight to a draw and get nothing accomplished, and that's good. I'm firmly in the P.J. O'Rourke camp on this: (paraphrasing) distracting Congress from governing is like distracting a bear from eating your children.

Gulper Eel: We have two frothing dumbass parties

We have way more than two. There are just only two that actually matter.

poopalacarte: randomjsa: I've yet to hear an Obama support give a single reason to vote for Obama, other than that Obama is a liberal.

Because I want to see a negro president boss around whitey.


I see your hidden agenda. You really just want to see a half-white president boss around negros.

Gulper Eel: dangelder: They can both claim that they're trying to push through legislation the base desperately wants (YAAYY!!!), but the other party is blocking it (BOOOOO!!!)

The way to a third party is to totally neuter the Republicans, the frothing dumbass party

Pay attention. We have two frothing dumbass parties. The idea is to force the most ragingly stupid and corrupt among them to the front and center, where we can keep an eye on them, until even industrial-strength koolaid and gerrymandering won't work its usual magic.

You have a respectable viewpoint, I'll give you that.

I was hoping we could somehow influence the nutjobs to stay in the nutjob party. I wouldn't neccesarily equate 'stupid' and 'corrupt' in a three-party system.

Slamguy, I guess you have fully demonstrated what passes for intelligent discourse on the left. Insult the guy, then run. You can't even be original, instead recylcing a used one. Sad.

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randomjsa: I've yet to hear an Obama support give a single reason to vote for Obama, other than that Obama is a liberal.

So what you're saying is that "This guy's politics and beliefs are a lot closer to mine than the other guy's are" is no longer a valid reason to vote for a candidate? Interesting, I wasn't aware anything else was really necessary. But then you conservatives love to move the goalposts, so...

Tsunami Ditka: randomjsa: I've yet to hear an Obama support give a single reason to vote for Obama, other than that Obama is a liberal.

So what you're saying is that "This guy's politics and beliefs are a lot closer to mine than the other guy's are" is no longer a valid reason to vote for a candidate? Interesting, I wasn't aware anything else was really necessary. But then you conservatives love to move the goalposts, so...

You're way ahead of me; I've yet to figure out what an "Obama support" actually is.

/some kind of garment?

Jindal is just being modest. The GOP has big ideas. Like pre emptive wars. domestic spying. torture. bailouts. deregulation for the mortgage industry. letting big business write your legislation.
politicizing the justice dept to affect elections and investigations. giving the social security nest egg to Wall st.

those are pretty big ideas

Remove all Republicans: RemyDuron:
That and the fact that the Republicans hate him are all I need to vote for him. I'd rather have Hillary since they hate her even more.

Yeah, I'd love to see the repubs' reaction to Hillary gaining all that power dumbya accrued over the last 8 years...

Jindal spoke a lot better than the idiot that showed up to speak for Obama, what a frigging waste of space he was. If that's his possible VP, he might as well quit now.

RemyDuron: randomjsa: I've yet to hear an Obama support give a single reason to vote for Obama, other than that Obama is a liberal.

His clear consistent views on Iraq, the fact he will rebalance the Supreme Court, and his universal healtcare plan.

And what are the reasons to vote for Obama?

Hoopido: RemyDuron: randomjsa: I've yet to hear an Obama support give a single reason to vote for Obama, other than that Obama is a liberal.

His clear consistent views on Iraq, the fact he will rebalance the Supreme Court, and his universal healtcare plan.

And what are the reasons to vote for Obama?

You can vote for me instead, I have extremely unclear and inconsistent views on everything.