Kind of like telling Texas you're introducing legislation to send more of the Alamo to Mexico?

Can't Colorado just melt a glacier or something?

There could be an upside. Maybe if Colorado gets less water, they'll stop shipping Coors Light to the rest of us.

California is already trying to tap our water for their sanctuary cities. Screw Mexifornia. They can drink desert sand.

And if they want natural gas, they can build their own farking terminal too instead of wanting us to build it and pipe it to them.

What can you make of this, Johnny McCain?

ElPresidente: What can you make of this, Johnny McCain?

We just gots to keep all those illegal foreigners down stream fed and watered...:)

California is already too much of a parasite on the US. Give it to the damn Mexicans already.

ElPresidente: What can you make of this, Johnny McCain?

He can make a hat or a brooch or a pterodactyl...

In all seriousness, it's like McCain is trying to lose the election. At times like this, I feel sorry for the little guy.

/Manchurian Candidate?
//It's more likely than you think.

You mean he didn't pander? The dumbass!

Hey, he was just trying to protect Arizona is all.

You know, like he wanted to ship toxic waste anywhere but AZ...

It's not that he's against nuclear power, just his own state taking any responsibility for really anything involving it.

McCain was thinking he was running for President of Arizona this whole time. Which explains his position on Georgia.....

Trap-Door Spider: So if McCain's idea is a bad one, what's the better plan for providing water to the lower states (including Mexifornia)?

Personally, I think it takes courage to propose something that hurts you politically, but that's just me. Has anyone suggested a better idea, because water problems can be serious. You can't just say screw 'em. Well, maybe to Mexifornia you can but I like Arizona.


/maybe somekind of gigantic pipeline from Canada or something?

Um, just a thought, but shouldn't we expect people to live where there's water? Kinda the way it's been since the beginning of man, and it's worked pretty well.

Trap-Door Spider: /maybe somekind of gigantic pipeline from Canada or something?

There's already separate legislation in place to cover the export of water from the Great Lakes, and it requires agreement from all states and provinces in contact with any of them. Bulk exports won't be happening from there unless a war kicks in.

Out west, there aren't any major separate bodies of water, and a lot of the prairie provinces are also as hard up for water as the western states. There's really not much water available to export.

Those people wanted to go live in a desert, I say fark 'em. While they're thirsty and cowering in front of the air conditioner, I think I'll enjoy my warm summer day by sitting in a boat floating on a quarter of the world's fresh water.

North coast, represent.

eddyatwork: California is already too much of a parasite on the US. Give it to the damn Mexicans already.

Yeah, it's just the largest of all economies of the 50 states, and the world's fifth largest economy.

Trap-Door Spider: So if McCain's idea is a bad one, what's the better plan for providing water to the lower states (including Mexifornia)?

Personally, I think it takes courage to propose something that hurts you politically, but that's just me. Has anyone suggested a better idea, because water problems can be serious. You can't just say screw 'em. Well, maybe to Mexifornia you can but I like Arizona.


/maybe somekind of gigantic pipeline from Canada or something?

It's a losing battle with all this global warming. That water will be needed in higher latitudes to grow food. The SW is turning into desert, it won't be able to support any more life than it's own water tables can support. Water will be HUGE in the coming years. Right now, T. Boone Pickens is trying to lock down huge regional water rights east of Colorado and the continental divide with his wind farms too. In the NW, we're very conscious of our water as well. California also wants to tap the mouth of the Columbia river for fresh water..we're like..FAT CHANCE buttheads.

moops: eddyatwork: California is already too much of a parasite on the US. Give it to the damn Mexicans already.

Yeah, it's just the largest of all economies of the 50 states, and the world's fifth largest economy.

They can only do that sucking the resources from the states around them. Let's see how they do using the resources they have.

If California can't supply water to people living in the state they need to stop issuing building permits for new housing.

Trap-Door Spider: You can't just say screw 'em.

It's fun to watch the folks who were perfectly willing to say "screw 'em" to the City of New Orleans change their tune.

GaryPDX: moops: eddyatwork: California is already too much of a parasite on the US. Give it to the damn Mexicans already.

Yeah, it's just the largest of all economies of the 50 states, and the world's fifth largest economy.

They can only do that sucking the resources from the states around them. Let's see how they do using the resources they have.

Let's see you enjoy eating only canned fruits and vegetables for 9 months of the year smart guy.
\Hates California as much as the next guy, but chooses his battles.

GaryPDX: moops: eddyatwork: California is already too much of a parasite on the US. Give it to the damn Mexicans already.

Yeah, it's just the largest of all economies of the 50 states, and the world's fifth largest economy.

They can only do that sucking the resources from the states around them. Let's see how they do using the resources they have.

Carefull there, if we cut them off completely, they may move up to the NW!

GunshipPolitico: Let's see you enjoy eating only canned fruits and vegetables for 9 months of the year smart guy.

So no other states have farms? I was quite unaware of this development.

Trap-Door Spider: So if McCain's idea is a bad one, what's the better plan for providing water to the lower states (including Mexifornia)?

Personally, I think it takes courage to propose something that hurts you politically, but that's just me. Has anyone suggested a better idea, because water problems can be serious. You can't just say screw 'em. Well, maybe to Mexifornia you can but I like Arizona.


/maybe somekind of gigantic pipeline from Canada or something?

You wanted to go live in that sandbox. Don't come crying back to us when you can't find anything to drink. (new window)

Not. A. Chance.

If you think diverting the Colorado river is political suicide, try suggesting the great lakes.

GaryPDX: They can only do that sucking the resources from the states around them. Let's see how they do using the resources they have.

I doubt the state you live in is self-sufficient either.

GunshipPolitico: Let's see you enjoy eating only canned fruits and vegetables for 9 months of the year smart guy.
\Hates California as much as the next guy, but chooses his battles.

Dude..have you looked at a map lately? We have eastern WA and OR and the Willamette valley. We grow almost everything CA does. Our wines make CA wines taste like gorilla piss too. And canning for winter is not a bad thing.

GaryPDX

Hey leave Nor Cal out of this. We generate lots of revenue and we have our own water. We also single-handedly supported the solar energy industry for the first 25 years of its life while insuring that all of California and Oregon had dank weed.

Show some respect.

The Why Not Guy: GaryPDX: They can only do that sucking the resources from the states around them. Let's see how they do using the resources they have.

I doubt the state you live in is self-sufficient either.

Pretty close and far ahead of the game on alternative fuels.

quickdraw: GaryPDX

Hey leave Nor Cal out of this. We generate lots of revenue and we have our own water. We also single-handedly supported the solar energy industry for the first 25 years of its life while insuring that all of California and Oregon had dank weed.

Show some respect.

Okay..you can break off north of San Fransisco and join us..:)

The Why Not Guy: Trap-Door Spider: You can't just say screw 'em.

It's fun to watch the folks who were perfectly willing to say "screw 'em" to the City of New Orleans change their tune.

This is totally different. How many black people could Colorado possibly have?

Trap-Door Spider: Personally, I think it takes courage to propose something that hurts you politically, but that's just me. Has anyone suggested a better idea, because water problems can be serious. You can't just say screw 'em. Well, maybe to Mexifornia you can but I like Arizona.


/maybe somekind of gigantic pipeline from Canada or something?


Yes a giant pipe line from the pacific coast, Mexifornia and Mexizona can have all the water they want all they have to do is build a few desalinating plants, a bit of pipeline.....
better get to work

/FARK MCBUSH

Thanks John McCain. Those 9 Electoral Votes are going to look great in the Obama column.

The only thing that may save him on this is the fact John McCain doesn't speak for his own campaign, according to his own campaign.

GaryPDX: Okay..you can break off north of San Fransisco and join us..:)

I like Oregon a lot but if you go ten miles out of a major city you're instantly surrounded by bible thumpers. I like Nor Cal because you can live in the suburbs or the boonies and still be surrounded by intellectuals, buddhists and unitarians. It makes for better relations with the neighbors.

GaryPDX: Pretty close and far ahead of the game on alternative fuels.

"Pretty close" doesn't count.

Unless you're living in a self-sufficient state, I don't see how you can call out another state for importing resources.

More "it's ok for me but not for you" nonsense from GaryPDX.

quickdraw: GaryPDX: Okay..you can break off north of San Fransisco and join us..:)

I like Oregon a lot but if you go ten miles out of a major city you're instantly surrounded by bible thumpers. I like Nor Cal because you can live in the suburbs or the boonies and still be surrounded by intellectuals, buddhists and unitarians. It makes for better relations with the neighbors.

I wouldn't say bible thumpers, rednecks for sure. But we also have an Air Force, booyeah. You guys see them every time you have a brush fire.

Shrugging Atlas: The only thing that may save him on this is the fact John McCain doesn't speak for his own campaign, according to his own campaign.

I want to vote for a leader. Not a product. We see how well that worked.

The Tony Danzas: Trap-Door Spider: /maybe somekind of gigantic pipeline from Canada or something?

There's already separate legislation in place to cover the export of water from the Great Lakes, and it requires agreement from all states and provinces in contact with any of them. Bulk exports won't be happening from there unless a war kicks in.

Out west, there aren't any major separate bodies of water, and a lot of the prairie provinces are also as hard up for water as the western states. There's really not much water available to export.

Oh, he can lay the fark off our water too. If Phoenix can't stop sprawling, that's their own damn problem and something they should have nipped in the bud anyway.

Danceswithwires: Trap-Door Spider: Personally, I think it takes courage to propose something that hurts you politically, but that's just me. Has anyone suggested a better idea, because water problems can be serious. You can't just say screw 'em. Well, maybe to Mexifornia you can but I like Arizona.


/maybe somekind of gigantic pipeline from Canada or something?


Yes a giant pipe line from the pacific coast, Mexifornia and Mexizona can have all the water they want all they have to do is build a few desalinating plants, a bit of pipeline.....
better get to work

/FARK MCBUSH

1) You put up a some of power generating windmills
2) You use American workers to build one of these GE desalination plants which are made by an American company. Power with windmills.
3)........?
4) Profit.

I'm sure you can think of step 3. These are the types of investments we should be making as a country.

The Why Not Guy: GaryPDX: Pretty close and far ahead of the game on alternative fuels.

"Pretty close" doesn't count.

Unless you're living in a self-sufficient state, I don't see how you can call out another state for importing resources.

More "it's ok for me but not for you" nonsense from GaryPDX.

No..it's more like areas need to live with the resources they have, mostly. "Sharing" is fine, "expecting" to drain the resources of surrounding areas/states isn't. In 10 years there won't be enough water down there to go around. So..you want to get covered by desert?..fine..knock yourself out. OR, you could decide to live where life is sustainable. If you want to bring up NOLA, hey..they chose to live below sea level..go for it.

GaryPDX: I wouldn't say bible thumpers,

I would. Every little town I go into has at least three christian bookstores and their are lots of fish signs in a bunch of other business windows.

The Why Not Guy: GaryPDX: Pretty close and far ahead of the game on alternative fuels.

"Pretty close" doesn't count.

Unless you're living in a self-sufficient state, I don't see how you can call out another state for importing resources.

More "it's ok for me but not for you" nonsense from GaryPDX.

Not the same, those things that we import, we buy. The proposal said "give" the other states water.

quickdraw: GaryPDX: I wouldn't say bible thumpers,

I would. Every little town I go into has at least three christian bookstores and their are lots of fish signs in a bunch of other business windows.

Wow...I never noticed that saturation. Where I live, the smell of pachouli wafts among the unicorns.

Hahahaha. Nice job, John. Thanks for Colorado.

GaryPDX: Wow...I never noticed that saturation. Where I live, the smell of pachouli wafts among the unicorns.

Yeah - Portland's awesome. Eugene is great and Ashland is fun. OTOH Medford, Roseburg, Sutherlin, Oakland, Gold Beach..... They actually remind me of little towns in Florida.

Sounds like something a maverick would do.

Maybe have the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Vote McSpock '08.


I have yet to see an instance where Obama has reached across Party lines or defied his own Party.

eddyatwork 2008-08-17 09:40:24 AM
California is already too much of a parasite on the US. Give it to the damn Mexicans already.

Actually, in terms of tax revenue, California is a donor state, meaning it gives more than it takes, helping to prop up gay-ass states such as Idaho.

But let's get back to the original point of the thread, which is that the McCain campaign is in self-destruct mode.

Crude: Sounds like something a maverick would do.

Maybe have the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Vote McSpock '08.


I have yet to see an instance where Obama has reached across Party lines or defied his own Party.

All those bills he's sponsored? Obama-Hagel? Talking about personal responsibility? Oh! I know! He kicked Hillary Clinton's ass. I think that's something everyone can support.

Diogenes:
I want to vote for a leader. Not a product. We see how well that worked.

This 'product' has excelled in everything he does. He goes to Harvard Law School, and not only does well in it, but becomes the President of the Harvard Law Review, essentially making him one of the most talented up-and-coming lawyer in the country. He gets out of Harvard, and goes to work for impoverished people rather than making millions in Manhattan. He gave the keynote speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004, while he was still a state senator, and even at that time, people were rallying him to become President.

Then when he does run for the party's nomination, he beats the most politically powerful machine in modern history. The 'youth' demographic were always considered useless, because they didn't vote, but he's been able to inspire those youths to come out and vote. He's received historical record donations amounts, with the vast majority of them coming from normal folks who donated less than $100.

This is a man with a lot of potential, and he seems to have made all the right choices so far (sure, there's been a few bumps in the road, like Wright)... especially considering he's a black man with a Muslim name, who grew up with no father and a mother who had to live on food stamps for a time.

eddyatwork: California is already too much of a parasite on the US. Give it to the damn Mexicans already.

Every day I read something like this on Fark. Just when I think people can't get dumber, my jaw hits the floor.

Yukon Callmeal: You mean he didn't pander? The dumbass!

It isn't that he didn't pander, he got caught in a pander crossfire. In attempting to satisfy voters in AZ and CO he is getting flack from voters in CO.