It's all a matter of respect. That future zombie just put you on the top of her list.

That actually made me laugh subby.

Lynndie England. I hadn't seen that name in while. Great call back subby.

randomizetimer: Lynndie England. I hadn't seen that name in while. Great call back subby.

It was only 3 years ago...

"They also patted McIntyre's hand and told her to 'wake up.' Shakur took a picture, using the camera on her cellular phone, of defendants Cooper and Jackson hugging McIntyre's dead body."

So the corpse got a rub and hug. That's what I call a happy ending.

They may not be criminally liable, but if that woman had any relatives, you can expect lawsuits for emotional distress and such. What a bunch of idiot nurses.

Moonfisher: They may not be criminally liable, but if that woman had any relatives, you can expect lawsuits for emotional distress and such. What a bunch of idiot nurses.

Even though everyone thinks that the littlest thing will win them the lawsuit lottery with emotional distress, very rarely is this the case. The one expectpion is when it involves something done to a relatives corpse. Whether it be lost, mishandled, creamated when it was supposed to be burried, ect, that is a blank check waiting to be cashed.

Loki009: Even though everyone thinks that the littlest thing will win them the lawsuit lottery with emotional distress, very rarely is this the case. The one expectpion is when it involves something done to a relatives corpse. Whether it be lost, mishandled, creamated when it was supposed to be burried, ect, that is a blank check waiting to be cashed.

Everyone dies. Not everyone slips on pavement while carrying a McDonald's coffee.

+1 to subby for the headline

Loki009: expectpion

and +1 to Loki009 for a typo that made me lol.

"Anyone who would show that kind of disrespect for the dead probably would disrespect living patients as well," he said.

If it wasn't done out of love and to create a photographic memorial, perhaps it was just blowing off steam for people who are probably more acquainted with life and death than your average citizen. Or they could just be complete douches.
I just think people treat corpses with an undue amount of respect sometimes- it isn't the person you cared for, it's quickly decomposing tissue. And why are we keeping non-communist famous people out of the ground so long? James Brown spent nearly a month above-ground, and I don't think Issac Hayes is buried yet.

I agree with H_is_for_Heretic, it's just meat. Also, I bet James Brown smelled pretty funky after a month.

They just don't want us to have any fun.

By "legal", I'm sure Subby means "shortly to be made illegal by a knee-jerk reactive legislature."

The masters.

Well, I'm not sure it should be ILLEGAL. I mean we're talking about making it illegal to take a picture of a corpse. It should be a firable offense though, the employer should be regulating this, not the government.

Legal, yes. Unprofessional, highly.

There's enough neglect and abuse of patients in nursing homes without this shiat. Nursing home personnel are nasty.

"Anyone who would show that kind of disrespect for the dead probably would disrespect living patients as well," he said.

Erm.. no. Well, not really. Maybe.

TTIJFWP

I'm sure had it been one of Tahirah, Keisa, or Nichole's relatives, they would have felt differently.

Old custom: mourning portraits.

These nurses aides are very lucky. In 2001 Cincinnati Photographer Thomas Condon was charged for abuse of a corpse for posing and taking pictures. He called it art but the court and a jury disagreed and he ended up serving over a year. The civil suits are still on-going.

I keep picturing them posing this woman for some sort of stop motion/claymation video. The new add campaign for the Michigan Prune Council. With Motown music goodness, probably something by Smokey and the Miracles.

"I'm (goin to a go-go)
A-hoo-hoo-wee-eee
(Goin' to a go-go)
Baby come on now-ow
(Goin' to a go-go)
Come on baby
(Goin' to a go-go)
Oh come on now
Yea-yea-yea
Yea-yea-yea
(Fades)
Yea-yea-yea-yea-yea-yea-yea
(Goin' to a go go)"

TomD9938

Damn, you beat me to it.

I'm always freaked-out by the "open-casket groupies" that feel the need to touch/hug/kiss the recently, dearly departed.

Usually, they're just the expected-family-attention-whores who are hoping that they might actually have a shot at getting a mention in the will, thinking that such an emotionally-charged display will, somehow, "improve their score".

It's as if they fervently believe that the deceased will actually decide, upon further reflection in the after-life, to have second thoughts and change their existential minds about not giving their vintage Mustang to their grand-nephew...who never phoned.

Bonanza Jellybean: Old custom: mourning portraits.

Well, there's a link that just kept getting weirder.

If there's no law against it, it's up to the legislature. If this had gone the other way, some other subby would be up in arms about "activist judges."

Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?

Man On Pink Corner: Bonanza Jellybean: Old custom: mourning portraits.

Well, there's a link that just kept getting weirder.

Oh man that gives me the creeps.

Tr0mBoNe: It's all a matter of respect. That future zombie just put you on the top of her list.

That's why after I make love to a woman, I make sure to put the lid back on her casket real tight.

Goddamnit, Michigan.

I love you, but right now it's changing from "love like a boyfriend" to "love like a mother loves a delinquent child" - she does, but with freakin' exasperation a good amount of the time.

That said, my mother going on about how my grandmother lived the way Jesus would want her to... even though she was an atheist, and it was a memorial service, not a funeral (my dad insisted on no funeral, but my mom found a compromise)...

... Well, that kinda sucked too.

Maybe I'll just go out Steve Fossett style.

No body to defile, and a good amount of time before anyone's even sure I'm dead enough to hold a memorial service. I like it.

The Court of Appeals is not the Michigan Supreme Court. It is only the intermediate appellate court. The AG could still appeal it to the Supreme Court if he wanted to, but I don't know how likely that is.

Man On Pink Corner 2008-08-16 08:51:23 PM

I'm pretty much a heartless asshole, and you just managed to make me a little sad.

I'm in the first month of med school, so I'm getting a kick ....... actually, gross lab sucks.

"Man On Pink Corner: Bonanza Jellybean: Old custom: mourning portraits.

Well, there's a link that just kept getting weirder."

Jeez, that's worse than the "Harlem Book of the Dead."
Thanks for eliminating the need to set an alarm clock for the next few days.

vsavatar: The Court of Appeals is not the Michigan Supreme Court. It is only the intermediate appellate court. The AG could still appeal it to the Supreme Court if he wanted to, but I don't know how likely that is.

The article does say they will appeal, I CAN see where this does not violate the letter of the law, but it sure as hell violates the INTENT of it.

At the very least they should find a case that will get them a win and have these nurses licenses taken away for good.

See this is the kind of thing that could set off a zombie outbreak, one minute your goofing off with your friends taking pictures with a dead body and the next thing you know they come back to life and start eating everyone in the room. Then all it takes is one bite and someone who gets away from the scene for all hell to break loose.

Man On Pink Corner: Bonanza Jellybean: Old custom: mourning portraits.

Well, there's a link that just kept getting weirder.

as someone who had their son pass just before birth (at full term) with no reason found, i could see this. my son would have been 12 this year. my wife found this link and wished we would have had something like this available back then. we have four pictures of him. until you are in this type of situation, it is very hard to judge or even imagine.

i hope no one has to go thru this situation.

Bonanza Jellybean 2008-08-16 08:27:07 PM
Old custom: mourning portraits.


As the main author of that article, I'm pleasantly surprised to see that someone has actually read it.

H_is_for_Heretic: I just think people treat corpses with an undue amount of respect sometimes- it isn't the person you cared for, it's quickly decomposing tissue.

Then why is it illegal to have sex with a corpse? Come on. Don't be dense. Everyone is someones child. Everyone deserves respect even in death. If you had a five year old daughter who passed away would you mind if some asshole stripped her and took nude pictures of her body? If your mother died wouldn't you care if people turned her into a big joke? How about if they cut your sons head off and used it for dodge ball. It's only tissue, right?

If you say you wouldn't care then you're either a liar or a sicko.

Mija: H_is_for_Heretic: I just think people treat corpses with an undue amount of respect sometimes- it isn't the person you cared for, it's quickly decomposing tissue.

Then why is it illegal to have sex with a corpse? Come on. Don't be dense. Everyone is someones child. Everyone deserves respect even in death. If you had a five year old daughter who passed away would you mind if some asshole stripped her and took nude pictures of her body? If your mother died wouldn't you care if people turned her into a big joke? How about if they cut your sons head off and used it for dodge ball. It's only tissue, right?

If you say you wouldn't care then you're either a liar or a sicko.

I am reminded of the David Cross stand up where he talks about how after he dies he doesn't care what they do with his body.
I'ts probably on youtube somewhere but I am to lazy to link it.

H_is_for_Heretic:
I just think people treat corpses with an undue amount of respect sometimes- it isn't the person you cared for, it's quickly decomposing tissue.

Yes, yes, we all know that. But not everybody believes in the concept of the soul, so for many that IS the person they loved, broken and crumbling, but them. While it may be just flesh now, it's flesh that someone once held, nursed, nurtured and cherished. It's flesh that a lover's hand caressed and fantasized about. It's flesh that fathered or bore children and comforted them when they cried. It meant a lot to someone. It isn't a plaything for a bunch of douche bags.

Tanukis_Parachute: i hope no one has to go thru this situation.

I can't imagine what it must feel like, you're right... but I also can't imagine it not being healthier to work towards letting go.

mods please remove that this is what should have been posted

dustmite: Bonanza Jellybean 2008-08-16 08:27:07 PM
Old custom: mourning portraits.
Good call.

As the main author of that article, I'm pleasantly surprised to see that someone has actually read it.

As the main author of that article, you might want to make some revisions: "this was also an effective way of getting a person to "sit still" long enough for the extended exposure times of early photographs"
DNRanymoreofTFA

At the time, many family budgets could afford maybe one or two portraits from traveling photogs, only about half of all children survived to the age of ten. About 90% of those early photographs were of dead children.
Nowdays we say that surviving a child is the worst tragedy a person can experience -- Then, it was more likely than not.

Man On Pink Corner: I can't imagine what it must feel like, you're right... but I also can't imagine it not being healthier to work towards letting go.

Keeping your stinking advice to yourself can be very healthy, as well.

Sadsaque: Keeping your stinking advice to yourself can be very healthy, as well.