Hmmm. Could it be that:

1. A larger percentage of the military is of minority status than the general population? Probably not, but possible.

2. Our troops are tired of constantly being rotated in and out of war zones? More likely.

However we're only talking about 1300 people and this isn't a statistical poll. So it sounds good to say Obama has greater support but the data neither confirms nor denies it.

I hate the word "Troops" as a catch-all for everyone in the military.

Frank N Stein: I hate the word "Troops" as a catch-all for everyone in the military.

Agreed, though I do have many friends in uniform who feel the same way when you mention "conservatives"

The survey only covered those who gave $200 or more. As in the general population, Obama's supporters are more enthusiastic about their candidate than McCain supporters.

Snowflake Tubbybottom: 2. Our troops are tired of constantly being rotated in and out of war zones? More likely.

And... this.

patrick767: The survey only covered those who gave $200 or more. As in the general population, Obama's supporters are more enthusiastic about their candidate than McCain supporters.


I would bet that McCain has a higher percentage of donors that give over $200 than Obama does. I would also bet that Obama has more contributors who have't given the maximum. So a small sample would actually help McCain, because Obama has the number of donors, and McCain has people who give as much as they possibly can, he just has less of them.

/but i agree that's it's not exactly a scientific poll

RedEyedWings: McCain has people who give as much as they possibly can

well, whatever they have left after they get done buying magic beans and sending checks to televangelists.

RedEyedWings: patrick767: The survey only covered those who gave $200 or more. As in the general population, Obama's supporters are more enthusiastic about their candidate than McCain supporters.


I would bet that McCain has a higher percentage of donors that give over $200 than Obama does.

Have you ever seen the disgusting pay those people get? I'm surprised any of them have an extra $200 to give to something as frivolous as a political campaign in todays economy.

Gwendolyn: Have you ever seen the disgusting pay those people get? I'm surprised any of them have an extra $200 to give to something as frivolous as a political campaign in todays economy.

Are you kidding? The military is practically recession-proof. Sure, the junior enlisted don't make shiat, but thats always how its been. But regardless, its a steady pay check with pretty good benefits.

/Making E-5 next month

Why does John McCain hate the troops?

Because fully funding their medical care after they leave service and increasing the G.I. Bill to fully fund an education costs money.

Silly rabbit, the GOP hates paying for shiat.

But Obama doesn't understand the military!!!

Frank N Stein: Are you kidding? The military is practically recession-proof. Sure, the junior enlisted don't make shiat, but thats always how its been. But regardless, its a steady pay check with pretty good benefits.

/Making E-5 next month

Does the military exist in a magical world were inflation doesn't exist and the price of gas is still $2.19 for their cars and the trucks that transport their goods?

Gwendolyn: Does the military exist in a magical world were inflation doesn't exist and the price of gas is still $2.19 for their cars and the trucks that transport their goods?

I'm speaking strictly of job security

Gwendolyn: Does the military exist in a magical world were inflation doesn't exist and the price of gas is still $2.19 for their cars and the trucks that transport their goods?

No, they exist in a magical world where they get a clothing and housing allowance, special duty pay and free comprehensive medical care.

It is NOT a bad life. If you can make it to E-7 and coast for your 20, you're living good.

NewportBarGuy: Silly rabbit, the GOP hates paying for shiat.

Except overpriced toys that rarely work.
F*ck the soldiers, we need a missile shield doohicky and thousands of Osprey purchased at 60X the manufacturing cost!

NewportBarGuy: No, they exist in a magical world where they get a clothing and housing allowance, special duty pay and free comprehensive medical care.

It is NOT a bad life. If you can make it to E-7 and coast for your 20, you're living good.

I'm not saying it's bad. In fact if you were a single young guy I'd suppose it would be a really decent living (well without the being shot at in Iraq and Afghanistan thing). However after living near a few bases over the last few years it's a bunch of young kids with wives and families with 12 year old cars.

I just can't imagine them having a bunch of disposal income to send to a candidate.

Now the officers here just got an entire housing development built for them off base and in the good school district. They built 20 or so $400,000 houses with two car garages back behind the Target. We thought we were finally getting a decent movie theater when they broke ground. :(

gas giant: Except overpriced toys that rarely work.

That's not "paying for shiat." That's called embezzlement. Who do you think owns the companies that makes that shiat?

/I still want my own personal Bradley.
//You know, for off-roading.

gas giant: thousands of Osprey purchased at 60X the manufacturing cost!


My husband was on that project for about 2 years. I wouldn't fly on one.

Gwendolyn: Now the officers here just got an entire housing development built for them off base and in the good school district. They built 20 or so $400,000 houses with two car garages back behind the Target. We thought we were finally getting a decent movie theater when they broke ground.

You know, I usually bash ossifers, but... How the fark do you retain college educated people in a job where they are going to do multiple tours? They HAVE to give them nice things to keep them.

NCO's do run things, but you need a semi-decent officer corps to run a military outfit. Someone has to write things in triplicate and affix a signature stamp. Or lead his Troop onto a live-fire Tank range. (That was fun.)

NewportBarGuy: That's called embezzlement.

Exactly.
It's fun to watch where the campaign contributions come from.

maybe the troops like Obama because he hasn't acted like he's willing to throw their lives away at the drop of a hat?

/could be.

NewportBarGuy: NCO's do run things, but you need a semi-decent officer corps to run a military outfit. Someone has to write things in triplicate and affix a signature stamp. Or lead his Troop onto a live-fire Tank range. (That was fun.)

Well mostly that I was hoping for a movie theater. Now the people stuck actually living on base and in the two crappy apartment complexes most live in are stuck sending their kids to horrible schools with MS-13 members. I'd imagine there will be a HUGE grab for those houses when they are done. The landscaping is being done now.

Is it true that more former Admirals and Generals have supported McCain than donated to Obama?

I didn't think so. STFU and DIAF, lying McCain campaign spokesman.

To you too, media whore who didn't point that out.

Ron Paul had the same thing. Didn't do him much good.

I'm glad to be part of that statistic. Now excuse me while I work on avoiding another statistic in the Middle East.

/I just wish it wasn't so got damn difficult to get an absentee ballet out here.

they cant live to be 125 years old?

an even better education than gun cleaning(and shooting)?

Why does John McCain hate the troopssoldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen/airwomen?

Frank N Stein: Gwendolyn: Have you ever seen the disgusting pay those people get? I'm surprised any of them have an extra $200 to give to something as frivolous as a political campaign in todays economy.

Are you kidding? The military is practically recession-proof. Sure, the junior enlisted don't make shiat, but thats always how its been. But regardless, its a steady pay check with pretty good benefits.

/Making E-5 next month

Yeah, I agree with you on that. Plenty of guys who got out in the last year are actually trying to get back in, because of the shiatty job prospects out there. I'm an E-4, and I'm doing just fine financially, unlike most of my family right now, unfortunately.

Dear subby

You have failed in a major way.

It should have read ``Why do the troops hate John McCain?''

/Or possibly even ``In GOP America, troops hate McCain!''

The average donation was almost 400$. You think frontline grunts are donating that kind of money to Obama? No, this is coming from officers.

If i'm not mistaken, isn't it ILLEGAL for active duty members to donate to political campaigns? If so, then Obama supporters are much more likely to be criminals.

While I can't speak for "the troops" (also hate that term), I can speak for me and my immediate peers when I say that while there are more folks in the military predisposed to vote McCain, the folks for Obama are disgusted enough to want to contribute more than just an absentee ballot that will likely not be counted.

It's not that McCain hates them, but they have trouble with the fact he keeps saying he's going to "Get us out of Saigon" as soon as he's elected President.

Desterion: If i'm not mistaken, isn't it ILLEGAL for active duty members to donate to political campaigns?

you are mistaken.

If so, then Obama supporters are much more likely to be criminals.

and apparently very very stupid as well.

Dead Farker Walken: The average donation was almost 400$. You think frontline grunts are donating that kind of money to Obama? No, this is coming from officers.

FTFA: Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama's presidential campaign as they have to McCain's, the Center for Responsive Politics said.

While I'm sure a lot of officers are donating, it sounds to me like he's getting donations from enlisted serving long tours in a tax-free/hostile fire pay zone.

Desterion: If i'm not mistaken, isn't it ILLEGAL for active duty members to donate to political campaigns? If so, then Obama supporters are much more likely to be criminals.

Fail.

Desterion: If i'm not mistaken, isn't it ILLEGAL for active duty members to donate to political campaigns? If so, then Obama supporters are much more likely to be criminals.

It is illegal for us to campaign for a candidate, but we could give them our paychecks if we want to.

But you probably already knew that and just wanted to cast a negative light on Obama supporters.

Desterion: If i'm not mistaken, isn't it ILLEGAL for active duty members to donate to political campaigns? If so, then Obama supporters are much more likely to be criminals.

You're mistaken.

This just proves that military personnel clearly are panty-soaked over celebrities.

The only adults who get nipple-hard over handsome celebrities are either women, or commie limp-wristed homos.

John McCain is not a woman.

John McCain was military personnel.

Therefore,

John McCain is a commie limp-wristed homo.

Desterion: If i'm not mistaken, isn't it ILLEGAL for active duty members to donate to political campaigns?

If only they would outlaw the stupid asshole vote.

People use 'troops' because 'soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines' is too long.

Yep, our best and brightest...

If i'm not mistaken, isn't it ILLEGAL for active duty members to donate to political campaigns? If so, then Obama supporters are much more likely to be criminals

Yes, you are mistaken. It's illegal for military members to do campaign in uniform. But otherwise, military personnel have the same rights to the political process as anybody else.

doyner: It is illegal for us to campaign for a candidate, but we could give them our paychecks if we want to.

Out of curiosity, is that equally true for enlistedmen, NCOs and commissioned officers?

FTFA: "John McCain has been endorsed by more retired admirals and generals than Barack Obama has military donors,"


You know what Admirals and Generals do when they retire? They go to work for Boeing, Northop, Ratheon, Lockheed... the "military industrial complex".

They are also the same hacks that were fed talking points by the Office of Strategic Plans, paraded onto FoxNews and helped get us into this war.

andrewagill: doyner: It is illegal for us to campaign for a candidate, but we could give them our paychecks if we want to.

Out of curiosity, is that equally true for enlistedmen, NCOs and commissioned officers?

Absolutely.

doyner: Absolutely.

I could see it going either way, especially for COs. Thanks for the clarification.

awutwut: Yep, our best and brightest...

That's a drive-by "fark you" if I ever saw one.

FTFA: Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama's presidential campaign as they have to McCain's, the Center for Responsive Politics said.

Also FTFA: "John McCain has been endorsed by more retired admirals and generals than Barack Obama has military donors," McCain spokesman Michael Goldfarb said in a statement.

I guess only the military's "little people" support Obama.

I mean little people in the Leona Helmsley way, not in the dwarf/midget way.

brainiac-dumdum: I guess only the military's "little people" support Obama.

I mean little people in the Leona Helmsley way, not in the dwarf/midget way.

I want my own personal army of midgets.