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What the fark?

Ready on Day One!

/To fill advisory roles with spineless yes-men
//Sounds pretty goddamn familiar

Maybe they were just too scared to speak up after witnessing her unhinge her jaw and swallow a dozen Labrador Retriever puppies whole for lunch. Or maybe they were just starstruck, who knows.

(1) Sad to say, most intelligent people wind up talking to themselves. If she hasn't got over that by now, wow.

(2) And why run this story now, just in time for the Convention when the focus should be on Obama and not Hillary. I smell rat. It could have waited until December.

Maybe they were dumb ideas, and folks were too terrified of her wrath to say so?

FunkOut: Maybe they were just too scared to speak up after witnessing her unhinge her jaw and swallow a dozen Labrador Retriever puppies whole for lunch.

Cripes, you'd think they'd have gotten used to that.

Atlantic Monthly reports that one factor that doomed Hillary's campaign: shy stupid campaign staff.

FTFY, subby

Jeremy Bates: worlddan: (1) Sad to say, most intelligent people wind up talking to themselves. If she hasn't got over that by now, wow.

By that measure, I'm a farking genius.

Commenting on FARK =/= talking to yourself, although I admit it does feel like it.

Or maybe it's just that she failed in her duties as First Lady, so now most people don't want her to be president.

She had mentioned her Tusla sniper fire at numerous occasions before the caught one. No one allowed in her circle had the ability to say "Um... wait a sec". She had said "you know, Bobby Kennedy got shot" several times before the one that got caught. No one had the ability to say "Um...". She had to have bounced her "Change you can Xerox" line off some people. They all said "that's great, Hillary".

FunkOut: Maybe they were just too scared to speak up after witnessing her unhinge her jaw

You know who else could unhinge their jaw?

Lawnchair: She had mentioned her Tusla sniper fire at numerous occasions before the caught one.

Like she ever spent that much time in Oklahoma.

blazemongr: Commenting on FARK =/= talking to yourself, although I admit it does feel like it.

Tell that to M************t and d******n.

It's pretty well known what happens when you call out Hilldog or anyone else like her on a dumb idea.

"Mark Penn advised her to portray rival Barack Obama as having a limited connection "to basic American values and culture."

Maybe you shouldn't have a top campaign strategist who forgets that he's not running a candidate in the Republican primary where the winner doesn't take all delegates and voters are a little sick of being bludgeoned with the values meme bullshiat.

What a filthy scumbag.

One Bad Apple: It's pretty well known what happens when you call out Hilldog or anyone else like her on a dumb idea.

You wind up with the Democratic nomination?

worlddan: (1) Sad to say, most intelligent people wind up talking to themselves. If she hasn't got over that by now, wow.

(2) And why run this story now, just in time for the Convention when the focus should be on Obama and not Hillary. I smell rat. It could have waited until December.

I'm guessing because she's been making rumblings about a convention floor vote and still some hopes for a nomination. I'd shiat myself if that ever happened but does explain why the hatchet piece happens now.

I really don't care

Well, at least this thread hasn't devolved into the poo-fliging the USA Today comments have....yet.

sounds about right. I worked around most of the campaigns last year in Iowa and of all of them the Clinton staff was the only one that operated entirely from the top down. It was bureaucratic enough that nobody wanted to deal with their higher ups as quite frankly it was intimidating. All other campaigns were enjoyable to be around for the most part, especially the Obama and Biden staff. (dodd staff was nice but too desperate for supporters.)

Hillary is a nightmare. She's an angry little jackass, and if Obama loses, look no further than her.

B-b-but she was on a listening tour!!

Didn't they know that she was open to ideas??


And that Hell had frozen over?

Damn. There goes my flying pig.

doyner: Well, at least this thread hasn't devolved into the poo-fliging the USA Today comments have....yet.

Wow. Just wow. Those comments are beyond poo-flinging.

worlddan: (1) Sad to say, most intelligent people wind up talking to themselves. If she hasn't got over that by now, wow.

(2) And why run this story now, just in time for the Convention when the focus should be on Obama and not Hillary. I smell rat. It could have waited until December.

Take a look at the comments and you'll see who their readers are.

I have to learn to type faster.

Tsunami Ditka: doyner: Well, at least this thread hasn't devolved into the poo-fliging the USA Today comments have....yet.

Wow. Just wow. Those comments are beyond poo-flinging.

Just about the level of discourse I'd expect from people who use The USA Today as a primary source of their information.

dictyboy: worlddan: (1) Sad to say, most intelligent people wind up talking to themselves. If she hasn't got over that by now, wow.

(2) And why run this story now, just in time for the Convention when the focus should be on Obama and not Hillary. I smell rat. It could have waited until December.

Take a look at the comments and you'll see who their readers are.

It's a conspiracy I tell ya!!!

Iraq.

Seriously the US is going to have to reconsider this whole one man one vote deal. There are waaaaay too many stupid people. And they're outbreeding the smart ones a la Idiocracy.

I think the US should go back to the old Greek model where you got certain rights for being born there, but only through service after the age of majority could you get citizenship aka voting rights.

Ye gods!

Opiate of the Lasses: I think the US should go back to the old Greek model where you got certain rights for being born there, but only through service after the age of majority could you get citizenship aka voting rights.

Service Guarantees Citizenship!

Would you like to know more?

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Lawnchair: She had mentioned her Tusla sniper fire at numerous occasions before the caught one.

To be fair, there was a Bosnian that would bid against her on Ebay.

/Ebay snipers are the worst.

And Hillary still expects Obama to help her retire her debt?

BTW, how does one get a 'loan' during a campaign anyways? What if that loan isn't paid back? Could Coke or Doritos 'loan' a campaign millions of dollars?

Snarfangel: Lawnchair: She had mentioned her Tusla sniper fire at numerous occasions before the caught one.

To be fair, there was a Bosnian that would bid against her on Ebay.

/Ebay snipers are the worst.

Tell me about it. The video that they kept showing on the news conveniently cut out the 3 times she got on her blackberry to update her bid. What they also neglected to mention was that the little girl on the tarmac was there to get instructions to place bids for Hillary since the little girl would have access to broadband while Hillary took her tour. Damned biased media!!

Opiate of the Lasses: Seriously the US is going to have to reconsider this whole one man one vote deal. There are waaaaay too many stupid people. And they're outbreeding the smart ones a la Idiocracy.

I think the US should go back to the old Greek model where you got certain rights for being born there, but only through service after the age of majority could you get citizenship aka voting rights.

Ye gods!

I'd be all for that. Interesting that the founders helped to create the changes which led to the undoing of people like them.

moralpanic: Could Coke or Doritos 'loan' a campaign millions of dollars?

Or maybe because the guy running her campaign, Mark Penn, was inept and incompetent. He didn't even know that primaries and caucuses were not "winner take all".

One of the most fundamental aspects of his job, and he was unaware of it. This is akin to a pro-basketball player not knowing what traveling is.




FAIL

Goodfella: FAIL

lol

Mark Penn is like a Karl Rove who isn't even good at what he does. Being a mediocre Rove is just stupid.

Goodfella: FAIL

indeed

Hehe

I think the ultimate reason the Clinton campaign failed was that it seemed to confirm the notions everyone has of Clinton: that she is a mean-spirited, vindictive biatch who would rather take the whole party down than let anyone else have that nomination. And Penn unwittingly played into that, when anyone should have realized that what you have to do is redefine her, in a lot of ways, or show new facets of her personality.

I think the "mediocre Rove" description of him works just fine.

You know Obama hasn't clinched yet, right? The superdelegates can still change their minds. At any time. Perhaps they are changing their minds right now.

/runs like hell to avoid the fury he hath wrought

moralpanic: What if that loan isn't paid back? Could Coke or Doritos 'loan' a campaign millions of dollars?

Colbert tried that, it didn't work. Apparently there's some restrictions against corporate sponsorship of campaigns.

MrEricSir: moralpanic: What if that loan isn't paid back? Could Coke or Doritos 'loan' a campaign millions of dollars?

Colbert tried that, it didn't work. Apparently there's some restrictions against BLATANT corporate sponsorship of campaigns.

FTFY

But, no.... she isn't a crazy-ass biatch who terrifies her immediate circle of advisors. She wouldn't go nuts blaming her underlings for any failures, nope. Ready on Day One, and all that.

The U.S. electorate has made a VERY wise choice to keep both this incompetent and John Edwards from the Presidency. One more old out of touch incompetent to go.

one factor that doomed Hillary's campaign: shy sycophantic campaign staff.

FTFY.

Gosling: You know Obama hasn't clinched yet, right? The superdelegates can still change their minds. At any time. Perhaps they are changing their minds right now.

/runs like hell to avoid the fury he hath wrought


Yup. And right after that, they are going to work on re-awarding the 1977 Best Actress Oscar.

bronyaur1: But, no.... she isn't a crazy-ass biatch who terrifies her immediate circle of advisors. She wouldn't go nuts blaming her underlings for any failures, nope. Ready on Day One, and all that.

The U.S. electorate has made a VERY wise choice to keep both this incompetent and John Edwards from the Presidency. One more old out of touch incompetent to go.

Obama's not that old, really.

Shy?

How about 'fearful'? I've heard the Clintons are quite unforgiving of even the smallest mistake. I'd be afraid to speak up too!

When you are well known for tearing any subordinate suggesting something counter to your singular vision of how the world should be gaping new holes in their posterior, then the rest have a tendency to do wonderful impressions of Mafia yes-men.

"Whatever you say, boss."