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(Daily Kos) Obvious In the latest chapter in "Who Do John McCain's Advisers Lobby For?" meet Randy Scheunemann, who lobbied for Georgia. Not the state; the country now at war with Russia   (dailykos.com) divider line 49
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Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 04:23:02 AM  
I'm sure the pro-Obama media will skewer McCain over this.

 
AnkhX10.0 [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 04:32:35 AM  
So?

 
GreenAdder [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 05:01:32 AM  
i36.tinypic.com

 
Sleeping Monkey [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 05:22:00 AM  
Next week's hotness: McCain's advisers lobbied for Russia

 
zerkalo 2008-08-10 08:00:36 AM  
Yeah, uh, Georgia has had the support of the US for quite a while now. Not just with mccain cronies

 
Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 08:03:00 AM  

 
Satosuke [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 08:08:44 AM  
Good god, what the hell is it with all the DailyKos links recently? Did the tinfoil hatters invade or something?

 
Nina_Hartley's_Ass 2008-08-10 08:10:09 AM  
Why don't McCain and the GOP just hire an ad agency? For the whole campaign? Speeches, talking points, policy, etc. Could it be worse?

 
IlGreven 2008-08-10 08:12:34 AM  
Satosuke: Good god, what the hell is it with all the DailyKos links recently? Did the tinfoil hatters invade or something?

Hey, I don't know, but it did get me three greens this weekend!

 
randomjsa 2008-08-10 08:29:00 AM  
Satosuke: Good god, what the hell is it with all the DailyKos links recently? Did the tinfoil hatters invade or something?

Liberals need for a hate fix is directly proportional to how well Obama is doing. When he hits a spot or two of trouble, like making stupid statements about tire gauges, they need more "hits" of Kos bigotry to feel normal again.

But as to the topic at hand, so what? Liberals don't seem to notice that the ability to lobby your government is a basic right nor do they seem to have a problem with it when it's a liberal special interest group doing it.

It's only when a lobbyist is a Republican that they suddenly become a dirty word.

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2008-08-10 08:33:18 AM  
Randy Scheunemann, who lobbied for Georgia. Not the state; the country now at war with Russia, that was that the setting for Russia House staring Sean Connery who was in Entrapment with Catherine Zeta Jones who was in Chicago with John C. Reilly, who was in The River Wild with Kevin Bacon.

 
Falcc 2008-08-10 08:40:15 AM  
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Why don't McCain and the GOP just hire an ad agency? For the whole campaign? Speeches, talking points, policy, etc. Could it be worse?

How would they be sure they were packing it with enough cronies and lobbyists to last into the administration? The GOP doesn't need "professionals", that would be elitist. It just needs corruption. Good ol' American corruption.

Also, Spany_McFarksalot? Good show sir.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 08:45:41 AM  
randomjsa: Liberals need for a hate fix is directly proportional to how well Obama is doing. When he hits a spot or two of trouble, like making stupid statements about tire gauges, they need more "hits" of Kos bigotry to feel normal again.

But as to the topic at hand, so what? Liberals don't seem to notice that the ability to lobby your government is a basic right nor do they seem to have a problem with it when it's a liberal special interest group doing it.

It's only when a lobbyist is a Republican that they suddenly become a dirty word.


yeah you guys don't need a hate fix. you got your own tv and radio networks for that. A 24/7/365 fountain of hate that results in people being killed in church for just being liberals.

rattle on good sir.

 
soy_bomb 2008-08-10 08:50:03 AM  
randomjsa: Liberals need for a hate fix is directly proportional to how well Obama is doing. When he hits a spot or two of trouble, like making stupid statements about tire gauges, they need more "hits" of Kos bigotry to feel normal again.

THIS.

Shouldn't Obama be up by 10 to 20 points in polls? My favorite statement lately was Obama using NASCAR to justify his Tire Inflation Energy Plan. As if NASCAR uses nitrogen to inflate their tires to reduce the need for offshore drilling. But I guess that was his outreach to people who cling to guns and their religion.

 
soy_bomb 2008-08-10 08:51:41 AM  
Hobodeluxe: yeah you guys don't need a hate fix. you got your own tv and radio networks for that. A 24/7/365 fountain of hate that results in people being killed in church for just being liberals.

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LocalCynic 2008-08-10 08:52:17 AM  
soy_bomb: Shouldn't Obama be up by 10 to 20 points in polls?

Shouldn't John McCain be up by 30? He's such an altruistic country-first guy, yet he is still behind by several points. For somebody who is supposed to be an America firster, he certainly is under-performing.

 
soy_bomb 2008-08-10 08:55:36 AM  
LocalCynic: Shouldn't John McCain be up by 30? He's such an altruistic country-first guy, yet he is still behind by several points. For somebody who is supposed to be an America firster, he certainly is under-performing.

Not according to Rasmussen (new window). He is leading Obama with leaners.

 
LocalCynic 2008-08-10 08:56:56 AM  
soy_bomb: Not according to Rasmussen (new window). He is leading Obama with leaners.

Shouldn't John McCain be ahead by at least 20? He's such a dreamy maverick, that he should be far ahead of Young Obama. How underwhelming.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 08:57:52 AM  
soy_bomb: randomjsa: Liberals need for a hate fix is directly proportional to how well Obama is doing. When he hits a spot or two of trouble, like making stupid statements about tire gauges, they need more "hits" of Kos bigotry to feel normal again.

THIS.

Shouldn't Obama be up by 10 to 20 points in polls? My favorite statement lately was Obama using NASCAR to justify his Tire Inflation Energy Plan. As if NASCAR uses nitrogen to inflate their tires to reduce the need for offshore drilling. But I guess that was his outreach to people who cling to guns and their religion.


yeah but the "liberal" media had decided to cover Obama negatively (72%)and aggressively (2:1 over McCain) and let McCain and his lies go without questioning them.
McCain's ads are demonstrably false and misleading. Yet the talking heads want to talk about why Obama is not doing better while playing McCain's negative ads over and over for free.
so you ask why he's not up by more just look at the "liberal" media

 
Satosuke [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 09:12:10 AM  
IlGreven:
So you're the culprit. Dammit, stop dirtying my cache with that shiat!

randomjsa:
I guess that's as good an explanation as any.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 09:20:30 AM  

 
Steve Zodiac 2008-08-10 09:22:11 AM  
Fox News, NBC News, the Wall Street Journal and CNN are all part of "Main Stream Media".

Read or watch any of them, and you will probably not get the same perspective on any candidate or issue. THIS is your unified (and liberal) MSM?

Remember, John McCain spent an election cycle as a 'media favorite' as well. That would have been, what, 1999-2000? I forget, who got the Republican nomination that time? I guess having so-called 'media approval' wasn't worth as much then as all you guys think it is now.

I am not a McCain supporter, and some of his advisers clearly had conflicts of interest which should have been reported, but this one is a non-issue to me. McCain has a person on his staff who once represented the interest of the country of Georgia in the United State. Controversial stuff there.

 
Steve Zodiac 2008-08-10 09:23:55 AM  
STATES- UNITED STATES.....

/Oh for an edit button...........

 
Yukon Callmeal 2008-08-10 09:28:14 AM  
Let me get this straight. A McCain adviser lobbied for Georgia.

And this is bad, how?

Georgia is an ally. Georgia is the victim here.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 09:29:56 AM  
Steve Zodiac: I am not a McCain supporter, and some of his advisers clearly had conflicts of interest which should have been reported, but this one is a non-issue to me. McCain has a person on his staff who once represented the interest of the country of Georgia in the United State. Controversial stuff there.

I'm always concerned that anyone running for president has close ties to foreign interest lobbyists. I don't care which foreign country they lobby for. Israel,Colombia,Canada,Georgia or wherever.
I want a president that has my interests,not some corporate or foreign lobbyists' interests at heart.

 
soy_bomb 2008-08-10 09:41:21 AM  
Hobodeluxe: yeah but the "liberal" media had decided to cover Obama negatively (72%)and aggressively (2:1 over McCain)

i33.tinypic.com
[citation needed]
(huffinton post & daily kos don't count)

 
Steve Zodiac 2008-08-10 09:46:13 AM  
Hobodeluxe: I'm always concerned that anyone running for president has close ties to foreign interest lobbyists. I don't care which foreign country they lobby for. Israel,Colombia,Canada,Georgia or wherever.
I want a president that has my interests,not some corporate or foreign lobbyists' interests at heart.


I am willing to bet that every presidential candidate of the last 40 years made sure that they had advisers who had foreign contacts. Most of those advisers got those foreign contacts either by being in the State Department or by being a registered lobbyist for a foreign country.

To represent the best interest of the United States, you have to have access to knowledge of other countries interests and priorities. You cannot live in a country with walls built around it to separate it from the world. Its been tried, and it hasn't worked.

It is your job as a voter to decide which politicians have good ideas and leadership skills. If you think that there are 'no good people running' then blame the people who voted for the man who told them what they wanted to hear, instead of voting for the man who told them what they needed to hear.

 
Tenebreux 2008-08-10 09:46:47 AM  
randomjsa: Satosuke: Good god, what the hell is it with all the DailyKos links recently? Did the tinfoil hatters invade or something?

Liberals need for a hate fix is directly proportional to how well Obama is doing. When he hits a spot or two of trouble, like making stupid statements about tire gauges, they need more "hits" of Kos bigotry to feel normal again.

But as to the topic at hand, so what? Liberals don't seem to notice that the ability to lobby your government is a basic right nor do they seem to have a problem with it when it's a liberal special interest group doing it.

It's only when a lobbyist is a Republican that they suddenly become a dirty word.


Riiight. So the rest of the world, including even Bush counsel both sides to back down, cool off, and the only person in prominent political life who points the blame is McCain through a spokesperson who's a lobbyist for Georgia, and this is Daily Kos's problem?
This isn't an attack piece on republicans, or really McCain, although it does suggest he's controlled by the Lobbyists around him.

 
Crude 2008-08-10 09:49:30 AM  
And this is what it looks like when your constant attacks backfire on you, liberal asshats.

PANCAKES!!

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 09:58:31 AM  
Here's your citationsoy_bomb: [citation needed]
(huffinton post & daily kos don't count)


here's your citation (^)

Do the math. 3x more negative ,2x more coverage = 6x more negative coverage for Obama.

 
Scythed 2008-08-10 10:02:15 AM  
Lionel Mandrake: I'm sure the pro-Obama media will skewer McCain over this.
That would be a stupid thing for a pro-Obama media to do. The average person jumped to the "EVIL RUSSIANS AT IT AGAIN" conclusion upon first hearing about the conflict so that would actually help McCain. Besides, the media is trying hard enough to keep this news out of the headlines.
Now, Obama's campaign could portray McCain's militaristic statement as some sort of example of "same old politics, time for CHANGE" but I doubt it.

 
Yukon Callmeal 2008-08-10 10:07:01 AM  
Scythed The average person jumped to the "EVIL RUSSIANS AT IT AGAIN" conclusion upon first hearing about the conflict

Correctly, as it is.

The average person tends to make the right call more times than not.

 
downtownkid 2008-08-10 10:09:36 AM  
Yukon Callmeal: Let me get this straight. A McCain adviser lobbied for Georgia.

And this is bad, how?

Georgia is an ally. Georgia is the victim here.


Precisely. Attempting to portray this as a negative for McCain is absolutely stupid. Doing so pretty much outs Kos as a raging fanatic who believes that anything McCain does is wrong, no matter what. McCain could kiss a baby and Kos would call him a child molester.

Kos and Fox are both evil, and their shrill blind loyalties to either parties are helping destroy our country.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 10:10:30 AM  
For those who need an update on the latest disparity in coverage between that media phenomenon and that mere Presidential candidate, here are the numbers. In the seven weeks since the primary season ended (04jun08-23jul08), John McCain has logged 67 minutes on the three broadcast networks' weekday nightly newscasts, Barack Obama 166.

Do not construe this as undercoverage of McCain. For the record McCain '08 in the first six months (Jan-Jun) logged 203 minutes. That is plenty. It is more for the first two quarters than any other candidate in the previous five cycles: more than Bush '88 (167), Perot '92 (161), Clinton '92 (158), Kerry '04 (157), Bush '04 (133), Dole '96 (130), Bush '00 (111) and so on. McCain is getting plenty of coverage, judged as an historical candidate. Yet Obama, in the first six months of 2008, just broke the mold: 389 minutes. Obama gets more positive coverage, more negative coverage and more trivial coverage. Who else has stories filed about them on how he shakes hands with his wife? Or whether Jesse Jackson wants to castrate him? Or how he is lampooned on the cover of The New Yorker? The way the networks are covering this race, it is not a contest between Obama and McCain, it is a referendum on Obama.

Obama's every last tic and subclause is hyperanalyzed to see if he is qualified to be President. The implicit message of the coverage is that if he is qualified, he wins. If not, McCain is President by default.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 10:11:49 AM  
downtownkid: Kos and Fox are both evil, and their shrill blind loyalties to either parties are helping destroy our country

but Murdoch's media empire compared to Kos is like comparing a drop of water to an ocean.

 
Andric 2008-08-10 10:14:49 AM  
randomjsa: Satosuke: Good god, what the hell is it with all the DailyKos links recently? Did the tinfoil hatters invade or something?

Liberals need for a hate fix is directly proportional to how well Obama is doing. When he hits a spot or two of trouble, like making stupid statements about tire gauges, they need more "hits" of Kos bigotry to feel normal again.

But as to the topic at hand, so what? Liberals don't seem to notice that the ability to lobby your government is a basic right nor do they seem to have a problem with it when it's a liberal special interest group doing it.

It's only when a lobbyist is a Republican that they suddenly become a dirty word.


So what did you think about McCain making comments that inflating your tires is a good idea?

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 10:16:29 AM  
Andric: randomjsa: Satosuke: Good god, what the hell is it with all the DailyKos links recently? Did the tinfoil hatters invade or something?

Liberals need for a hate fix is directly proportional to how well Obama is doing. When he hits a spot or two of trouble, like making stupid statements about tire gauges, they need more "hits" of Kos bigotry to feel normal again.

But as to the topic at hand, so what? Liberals don't seem to notice that the ability to lobby your government is a basic right nor do they seem to have a problem with it when it's a liberal special interest group doing it.

It's only when a lobbyist is a Republican that they suddenly become a dirty word.

So what did you think about McCain making comments that inflating your tires is a good idea?



that's probably why they took his cellphone away.

 
Obdicut [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 11:09:20 AM  
Yukon Callmeal: Let me get this straight. A McCain adviser lobbied for Georgia.

And this is bad, how?

Georgia is an ally. Georgia is the victim here.

 
Andric 2008-08-10 11:14:07 AM  
Hobodeluxe:

that's probably why they took his cellphone away.


Indeed. Candidate must not be allowed to speak for the campaign, and all that.

 
3_Butt_Cheeks 2008-08-10 11:32:41 AM  
AnkhX10.0: So?

THIS.

Awful lot of KOS posts today.

 
foster404 2008-08-10 11:42:16 AM  
Hobodeluxe: So what did you think about McCain making comments that inflating your tires is a good idea?

it is a good idea... just not a good energy plan

 
Andric 2008-08-10 11:46:55 AM  
foster404: Hobodeluxe: So what did you think about McCain making comments that inflating your tires is a good idea?

it is a good idea... just not a good energy plan


Right. Which is exactly what Obama said.

 
foster404 2008-08-10 11:50:54 AM  
Andric: Right. Which is exactly what Obama said.

well i will be over here in the corner if you need me

 
5_second_rule 2008-08-10 03:16:26 PM  
Mccain was pwned in the tire gauge gate. Y'all need to keep up and go back and read the article when its talking about Mccain's involvement with the DHL merger. Not good for needing votes in a swing state.

 
The Joys of Arterial Sclerosis 2008-08-10 03:20:50 PM  
soy_bomb: Hobodeluxe: yeah but the "liberal" media had decided to cover Obama negatively (72%)and aggressively (2:1 over McCain)


[citation needed]
(huffinton post & daily kos don't count)


It's from a George Mason study (new window)

Although that may not be ideologically pure enough for you to accept as legitimate evidence.

 
182 2008-08-10 05:25:49 PM  
Sleeping Monkey: Next week's hotness: McCain's advisers lobbied for Russia

Would they change his mind on expelling Russia from the G8?

 
brainiac-dumdum [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 06:27:55 PM  
Randy Scheunemann is very dangerous, but not for any Georgian reasons. He was a spokesman for the Committee to Liberate Iraq, the neoconservative group that lobbied for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein for a full year before the 2003 invasion. The CLI pushed the connection between al-Qaida, 9/11 and Saddam long after the link was proven to be nonexistent.

Scheunemann served as a director of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), a group that played an important role in building support for the Iraq War and an expansive "war on terror."

Randy Scheunemann is our proof that McCain is simply a continuance of the same neoconservative policies and disasters.

 
IlGreven 2008-08-10 07:46:10 PM  
downtownkid: Georgia is an ally. Georgia is the victim here.

Precisely. Attempting to portray this as a negative for McCain is absolutely stupid.


...not with McCain's short fuse and ties to the current administration and its warmongering ways. Then it's "When will McCain decide to "help" Georgia, thereby starting WWIII?"

 
Party Boy [TotalFark] 2008-08-10 09:09:26 PM  
Hobodeluxe: .

thanks for the read

 
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