Phew... glad that's all settled and over.

SkorzenyNinja: Phew... glad that's all settled and over.

Or is it?

NewportBarGuy:

Or is it?

Meh, who cares? How about that whole John Edwards scandal deal? This is only a side issue compared to that.

SkorzenyNinja: This is only a side issue compared to that.

John who?

Atlanta is burning, we do not care about reality show people in times of crisis.

Obviously, they were persuaded to show restraint by the words of our awesome President.

One of my former employees is a doctor there.


Good luck, Alex.

I thought they were pulling out to focus on fighting the Russians in Georgia proper.

I wonder how many anti-war in Iraq protesters will protest this war.

Suicidal Writer: I wonder how many anti-war in Iraq protesters will protest this war.

I wonder how many pro-war in Iraq morons will support this war.

Russia's learned that there are no consequences for blatantly provoking a sovereign nation to hostility, then pounding the shiat out of them and "liberating" their territory? Yeah, everything's peachy.

Russia hasn't completely occupied Georgia to "oversee and ensure" this won't happen again.

So I don't think its over yet. I hope I'm wrong.

Good idea. Bring people back into the country when they are safely away, having the experience of a lifetime. They won't be bitter at all. Nope.

Russia is doing the same the USA did to Serbia under Clinton. Sans the mass graves.

kronicfeld: Suicidal Writer: I wonder how many anti-war in Iraq protesters will protest this war.

I wonder how many pro-war in Iraq morons will support this war.

I was against this war before I was for this war but not before I was against being for this war. Or something like that and as such.

Suicidal Writer: I wonder how many anti-war in Iraq protesters will protest this war.

More importantly, when will the Human Shields begin their convoy to deploy and bridges and schools throughout Georgia?

Ha! You all said Bush was a religious maniac for thinking the "end times" were coming.

Bet you feel pretty silly for doubting now, huh?

KIEV, Aug 10 (Reuters) - Ukraine said on Sunday it reserved the right to temporarily bar Russian warships dispatched to the Georgian coast from returning to their Ukrainian base of Sevastopol.

"Ukraine ... reserves the right to bar warships and vessels which could take part in the action (conflict with Georgia) from returning to Ukrainian territory until the conflict is solved," a Ukrainian Foreign Ministry statement.

Occam's Chainsaw: Russia's learned that there are no consequences for blatantly provoking a sovereign nation to hostility, then pounding the shiat out of them and "liberating" their territory? Yeah, everything's peachy.

Watch the upcoming arms race in the region.

Everybody and his dog are going to buy arms from somewhere other than the Izmaszh factories now.

...and you know what they did to Peachy? They crucified him, sir, between 2 pine trees, as Peachy's hands will show. Ol' poor Peachy, who never done them any harm, he just hung there and he screamed but he didn't die. And the next day they took him down and they said it was a miracle he wasn't dead and they let him go. And Peachy come home in about a year. The mountains, they tried to fall on ol' Peachy but he was quite safe because Daniel walked before him, and Daniel never let go of Peachy's hand, and Peachy never let go of Daniel's head....

Georgia can haz a Mannherheim?

/Not obscure to our Finnish Farkers.

Occam's Chainsaw: Russia's learned that there are no consequences for blatantly provoking a sovereign nation to hostility, then pounding the shiat out of them and "liberating" their territory? Yeah, everything's peachy.

how did Russia provoke them to hostility?

Except the Russians have now apparently promised to use the "you can run, but you can't hide" strategy now and just go ahead and invade Georgia.

With all this withdrawing and pushing further in, I can't see anything good coming soon.

Apocolympicse Now, anyone?

BrotherKalashnikov: Occam's Chainsaw: Russia's learned that there are no consequences for blatantly provoking a sovereign nation to hostility, then pounding the shiat out of them and "liberating" their territory? Yeah, everything's peachy.

Watch the upcoming arms race in the region.

Everybody and his dog are going to buy arms from somewhere other than the Izmaszh factories now.

Sooo investing in the companies behind the Eurofighter is probably a good idea?

I don't have a copy of Jane's handy; who makes a whupass anti-air system in the neighborhood other than Russia?

I'm confused.. Are Georgians evil do-ers or commies?

BrotherKalashnikov: Occam's Chainsaw: Russia's learned that there are no consequences for blatantly provoking a sovereign nation to hostility, then pounding the shiat out of them and "liberating" their territory? Yeah, everything's peachy.

Watch the upcoming arms race in the region.

Everybody and his dog are going to buy arms from somewhere other than the Izmaszh factories now.

they're already armed. we armed them. but yeah, you're probably right. they couldn't fight Russian tanks and war planes and now we'll have to sell them that too.

Suicidal Writer: I wonder how many anti-war in Iraq protesters will protest this war.

I wonder how many chickenhawk keyboard commandos will sign up to fight.

Suicidal Writer: I wonder how many anti-war in Iraq protesters will protest this war.

Less writing, more suicide please.

Suicidal Writer: I wonder how many anti-war in Iraq protesters will protest this war.

George and Vladimir, sittin in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g and waging illegal wars

goodbomb: how did Russia provoke them to hostility?

Are you stupid or just trolling?

Bad_Seed: goodbomb: how did Russia provoke them to hostility?

Are you stupid or just trolling?

i'm stupid. George invaded farking south ossetia (1000 dead). the whole thing with the passports and the support for the rebels, that's irresponsible behavior, but its NOT provoking military action. Georgia did it. And most likely they thought America had their back. Maybe Russia wanted it to happen, maybe they were waitin for it. but how did they provoke it. tell me.

*Georgia. ha.

Bad_Seed: goodbomb: how did Russia provoke them to hostility?

Are you stupid or just trolling?

The disinformation and propaganda's been thick for the past day or two. Expect some sort of response involving ethnic cleansing that none of the big NGA's are reporting.

So what was the point to all this and why were there 1000 Israeli military advisers there, sounds like poor advising to me. Maybe there's more to come?

Georgia got played by Russia, big time.

goodbomb: Occam's Chainsaw: Russia's learned that there are no consequences for blatantly provoking a sovereign nation to hostility, then pounding the shiat out of them and "liberating" their territory? Yeah, everything's peachy.

how did Russia provoke them to hostility?

Oh, perhaps by funding and arming a separatist movement within Georgian sovereign territory.

Look, I know you've been a Russian apologist on this board since the Russians stepped over the border, so I don't expect you to take the Georgian side on anything here. However, it seems clear to most of the rest of Eastern Europe that this is part of an ongoing Russian bullying policy. Russia mobilized and prepared for this well in advance and Georgia stupidly took the bait.

KeatingFive: Suicidal Writer: I wonder how many anti-war in Iraq protesters will protest this war.

I wonder how many chickenhawk keyboard commandos will sign up to fight.

How about BOTH groups go over there?

Occam's Chainsaw: Bad_Seed: goodbomb: how did Russia provoke them to hostility?

Are you stupid or just trolling?

The disinformation and propaganda's been thick for the past day or two. Expect some sort of response involving ethnic cleansing that none of the big NGA's are reporting.

Are you serious? Are you accusing me of propogandizing for Russia? its a fact that Georgia fired first and fired hard. Whether or not Russia is justified to respond is a separate issue. there is no question that there was something to respond to.

i wouldn't say disinformation, but there's been a HUGE knee-jerk anti-Russian bias in all this.

seriously. explain it to me. how is russia responsible for this. how did russia provoke georgia into invading south ossetia?

Occam's Chainsaw: Bad_Seed: goodbomb: how did Russia provoke them to hostility?

Are you stupid or just trolling?

The disinformation and propaganda's been thick for the past day or two. Expect some sort of response involving ethnic cleansing that none of the big NGA's are reporting.

Take a look at Pravda, its nothing but propaganda about Glorious Mother Russia saving civilization and the Cold War paranoia about the evil Americans.

Those assholes just want this shiat to go bad.

Earlier:
Georgia: Russia shot down our drone
Russia: It's probably Bulgarians
Official United Nations investigation: Russia shot down Georgia's drone
Russia: everybody was on vacation, honestly

goodbomb: i'm stupid. George invaded farking south ossetia (1000 dead). the whole thing with the passports and the support for the rebels, that's irresponsible behavior, but its NOT provoking military action. Georgia did it. And most likely they thought America had their back. Maybe Russia wanted it to happen, maybe they were waitin for it. but how did they provoke it. tell me.

How do you invade you're own country? Right or wrong South Ossetia is still part of Georgia. You're right, giving South Ossetians Russian passports is not an excuse for military action. But arming the rebels, getting them to launch rockets into Georgia proper and overflying Georgian territory and shooting down their drones does.

The only reason that Russia supports the South Ossetians in the first place is to make trouble in Georgia as punishment for Georgia wanting to join NATO and align itself with the west. They stationed their troops just across the border (under the guise of "military exercises") and told their South Ossetian puppets to start probing the Georgians in the hope that they'll retaliate.

And the only people talking about 1000 dead are the Russian government and media. Don't believe a thing they say.

One of Putin's MPs was just on the radio raising the spectre of nuclear war. He said they have intelligence that Ukraine will send forces, if that happens Ukraine will be 'taken out quickly' forcing confrontation with NATO.

Seriously, there are people with hardons for this. Lots of score settling.

I don't think it will happen though, but shiat, odd to hear it all again.

goodbomb: how is russia responsible for this. how did russia provoke georgia into invading south ossetia?

Kandalaki is claiming that the Russians sent a column of tanks over the border, which they responded to by shelling them. Russia denies this and claims Georgia started shelling the civilian population, so they then responded militarily as 'peace enforcement.'

Knowing Georgians and Russians, I have to say that one of them is definitely lying. Probably the Georgians. Or the Russians. Most likely Georgia though. The sad thing is that the Georgians apparently thought that if they attacked Russian forces the West would rush to their aid. Haha, yeah.

Either way, Russia's southern border just moved South. Hopefully permanently.

Yes, They've left South Ossetia because they on moving on to Macon and then Savannah.

goodbomb: Are you serious? Are you accusing me of propogandizing for Russia? its a fact that Georgia fired first and fired hard. Whether or not Russia is justified to respond is a separate issue. there is no question that there was something to respond to.

Yeah, just out of the blue, the Georgians attacked. No back history here. No simmering tensions for well over a decade.

Bad_Seed:

"How do you invade you're [sic] own country?"

Ask the Serbians. They tried it a couple years ago and it didn't go so well for them, either.

atomsmoosher: Georgia got played by Russia, big time.

Look, I know you've been a Russian apologist on this board since the Russians stepped over the border, so I don't expect you to take the Georgian side on anything here. However, it seems clear to most of the rest of Eastern Europe that this is part of an ongoing Russian bullying policy. Russia mobilized and prepared for this well in advance and Georgia stupidly took the bait.

wow. russian apologist. i just felt like that side wasn't at all represented. I guess i can't really dispute it that much. I'm not saying Russia's right, I'm just saying the notion "its all russia's fault and Georgia is the poor victim" doesn't correspond to the facts.

first off, if Russia armed the Ossetians, who armed the Georgians?

the whole notion is that Russia is bullying its near abroad but there's the opposite side of the coin: that we the west are trying to pick off all of Russia's neighbors and bring them over to our side as a buffer.

as far as sponsering and arming a seperatist movement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_ossetia. it seems to they supported a very native and very long-standing regional-indepenance movement. to me, kosovo seems to be an exact analogy to the situation. they always wanted to be indepedant, and only with russian help did they manage to not get gobbled back up (george = serbia, russia = usa, south osettia=kosovo).

my position here is that its just messy geopolitics. there's no obvious good guy or bad guy. The Georgians are quite obviously ruthless assholes and not innocent victims. when you call me an apologist, you're obviously belittling me, and I don't think that's fair. I'm trying to get at the truth and its just that my position is the minority one.

KeatingFive: ...and you know what they did to Peachy? They crucified him, sir, between 2 pine trees, as Peachy's hands will show. Ol' poor Peachy, who never done them any harm, he just hung there and he screamed but he didn't die. And the next day they took him down and they said it was a miracle he wasn't dead and they let him go. And Peachy come home in about a year. The mountains, they tried to fall on ol' Peachy but he was quite safe because Daniel walked before him, and Daniel never let go of Peachy's hand, and Peachy never let go of Daniel's head....

Wrong country- that was Afghanistan.

germaniac: Bad_Seed:

"How do you invade you're [sic] own country?"

Ask the Serbians. They tried it a couple years ago and it didn't go so well for them, either.

Didn't go so bad for Mr. Lincoln, though.

/Apart from Ford's theater
//I keed

Fark you, General Sherman!

George invaded farking south ossetia (1000 dead). the whole thing with the passports and the support for the rebels, that's irresponsible behavior, but its NOT provoking military action. Georgia did it. And most likely they thought America had their back. Maybe Russia wanted it to happen, maybe they were waitin for it. but how did they provoke it.

Umm, how can you invade your own country? That would be like Michigan telling Congress that they were going to be part of Canada and then inviting the Canadian military in. If USA then moves troops into Michigan, we wouldn't be invading Michigan, we would be defending Michigan. Against the Canadians. Seems kind of simple to me.

I think we ought to kick Russia's butt. I still have alot of hard feelings from the Cold War era and if they want to crank it up again, let's bust their chops. We'll do Russia right after we do Iran.

goodbomb: first off, if Russia armed the Ossetians, who armed the Georgians?

Georgia is a sovereign nation.

The Georgians are quite obviously ruthless assholes and not innocent victims. when you call me an apologist, you're obviously belittling me and I don't think that's fair.

Hi welcome to Fark. Here's your big box of book farking hoo.

I'm trying to get at the truth and its just that my position is the minority one.

Yeah, 'cause the Russians don't have none of that them there media.