How has Obama behaved any differently, regarding the appearance of "ego", than any other Presidential candidate ever? I am so frikken sick of this double standard.

cantch take a joke?

Dukakis

IronTom: cantch take a joke?

No, I can take a joke. THere's been some pretty good Obama jokes out there. I just am tired of the media drumbeat that Obama is egotistical. . .as if he's special among Presidential candidates in that regard.

FTFA:

"...Mr Obama's elevated opinion of himself..."

Say wha'?

Atillathepun: IronTom: cantch take a joke?

No, I can take a joke. THere's been some pretty good Obama jokes out there. I just am tired of the media drumbeat that Obama is egotistical. . .as if he's special among Presidential candidates in that regard.

They need SOMETHING to make him seem "elitist".

Geraldine Ferraro?

I don't know ... I like him ok (for a politician), but he really does come off as kind of pompous, I think.

"When I'm President, I will call Congress in Session" - McCain, Aug 2008

"My friends, when I'm president of the United States, we will come home" (from Iraq) - July 2008

"That's not good enough for America. And when I'm President, it won't be good enough for me" (on health care for Veterans) April 25, 2007 campaign announcement.

Bill Clinton in '96?

Growing number of comedians

False. True comedians don't talk about politics. Pussy, cock, farts, religion, sex, boogars, ethnicity, midgets, etc. That is what true comedians talk about...not politics.

Pussy = cat
Cock = chicken

his belief that he's already won the 2008 election


Citation please

I wasn't aware that a strong ego was a detriment for a presidential candidate.

FredaDeStilleto: I wasn't aware that a strong ego was a detriment for a presidential candidate.

Maybe they're mad that he isn't meek and pliable?

Well, McCain, like Bush, is just too damn easy to make jokes about. They are the equivalent of knock-knock jokes. Boring.

I would just like to point out though, that Jon Stewart has at times absolutely skewered Obama on the Daily Show. Mostly in order to quiet the people who whine that it has a liberal bias.

SilentStrider: I would just like to point out though, that Jon Stewart has at times absolutely skewered Obama on the Daily Show. Mostly in order to quiet the people who whine that it has a liberal bias.

he still spends most of his time lampooning the cable news coverage of obama, which is fully appropriate, as they're god damned ridiculous.

obama is one of two people that will, without a doubt, be the next president. i think he has earned the right to actually start making preparations for victory. it would be remiss of him to not do so.

if mccain isn't also preparing to hit the ground running if he were to win the election, that would make him a horrible, horrible candidate for the job.

Yes, because John McCain's weekly radio addresses aren't presumptuous at all.

FredaDeStilleto: I wasn't aware that a strong ego was a detriment for a presidential candidate.

I always thought an over-inflated ego was one of the job requirements.

burndtdan: he still spends most of his time lampooning the cable news coverage of obama, which is fully appropriate, as they're god damned ridiculous.

yeah, no argument there.

HansensDisease: "When I'm President, I will call Congress in Session" - McCain, Aug 2008

"My friends, when I'm president of the United States, we will come home" (from Iraq) - July 2008

"That's not good enough for America. And when I'm President, it won't be good enough for me" (on health care for Veterans) April 25, 2007 campaign announcement.

Lionel Mandrake: i159.photobucket.com

2008?

What about:

Bill Clinton? Didn't read the article but so I am just guessing. I mean, who was the last Dem to run against a cardboard cutout?

subby: Growing number of comedians taking aim at Barack Obama over his belief that he's already won the 2008 election.

Further proof that they have almost nothing to attack him on at this point.

LOL, McCain, 1908, that is funny.

Mentat: subby: Growing number of comedians taking aim at Barack Obama over his belief that he's already won the 2008 election.

Further proof that they have almost nothing to attack him on at this point.

I bet Mullato is pretty funny to them.

HansensDisease: "When I'm President, I will call Congress in Session" - McCain, Aug 2008

"My friends, when I'm president of the United States, we will come home" (from Iraq) - July 2008

"That's not good enough for America. And when I'm President, it won't be good enough for me" (on health care for Veterans) April 25, 2007 campaign announcement.

Hint: EVERY Presidential candidate speaks this way during a campaign.

BKITU: Hint: EVERY Presidential candidate speaks this way during a campaign.

But only one campaign (McCain) has accused the other camp of being "presumptuous" for doing it.

But, then, I'm not sure that the McCain campaign speaks for the McCain campaign...

BKITU: Hint: EVERY Presidential candidate speaks this way during a campaign.

Erm, that's the point.

Yeah, but she was facing a young, competent politician capable of really inspiring and motivating people. Obama doesn't have that problem.

They aren't making fun of Obama for thinking he is president.

They are making fun of John McCain for offering no real challenge. Obama has won the hearts and minds of everyone in this country with the exception of Fark Independents™ and backwash redneck 20%ers, and when he wins and takes office, he will be greeted as a liberator.

quadropheniac: Erm, that's the point.

Right. And the guy I quoted is trying to use those quotes to point out that Obama is being presumptuous, when in fact speaking like this is 100% expected in a Presidential campaign.

AL GORE'S A WOMAN?!?!

FYI, he has already won the election.

After eight years of this



anybody would look a little uppity pompous.

Some people are starting to wake up to the fact that Obama would make a far worse president than our current one. I know it's hard to imagine, but it's true.

I don't see the Obama campaign taking anything for granted, TBH. They're opening campaign offices everywhere, I get emails almost daily which discuss the latest challenge and ask for my time or money, they just announced putting together legal teams to combat voter fraud...if they think they've got this in the bag, they're certainly not acting like it.

It's more of the media attempting to create the story. They build him up and build him up while he continues to do his thing, and then one of two things happen: 1) He keeps on doing well, and the media starts projecting onto him the "aura of inevitability" that THEY built and starts asking if he's "presumptuous," or 2) He hits a wall, says something stupid, gets caught in a bad photo op, has a secret mistress he's paying off ala John Edwards, and the media crows that the "aura of inevitability" (which again, they projected onto him) has come crashing down.

Either way, it keeps the ratings.

Desterion: Some people are starting to wake up to the fact that Obama would make a far worse president than our current one. I know it's hard to imagine, but it's true.

just people who voted for bush... TWICE

Desterion: Some people are starting to wake up to the fact that Obama would make a far worse president than our current one. I know it's hard to imagine, but it's true.

Oh. Okay. If you say so.

Late night comic Jimmy Kimmel also cracked a joke at Mr Obama's expense: "They really love Barack Obama in Germany. He's like a rock star over there. Impressive until you realise that David Hasselhoff is also like a rock star over there."

The jokes are important because they increasingly draw on evidence that voters are tiring of Mr Obama's elevated opinion of himself, the wall to wall coverage of his pronouncements, and the feeling that he should concentrate on voters back home.

Jimmy Kimmel, harbinger of our political times.

In other news, Tory say wha'?

As painfully bad as Leno's monologue is on television it is so much worse on the page. That was just horrible.

Desterion: Some people are starting to wake up to the fact that Obama would make a far worse president than our current one. I know it's hard to imagine, but it's true.

You know, there's one addendum I'd like to see tacked onto everyone's opinion, at the very end. "...because I say so." So you're post should look like this:

Some people are starting to wake up to the fact that Obama would make a far worse president than our current one. I know it's hard to imagine, but it's true because I say so.

There we go. Now we know it's your opinion, at least until you come up with some quantitative data that shows it's not just an opinion.

Desterion: Some people are starting to wake up to the fact that Obama would make a far worse president than our current one. I know it's hard to imagine, but it's true.

How appropriate that you posted that moronic statement right under the pic in my post.

Thanks for the lulz.

/serendipity wins

Atillathepun: How has Obama behaved any differently, regarding the appearance of "ego", than any other Presidential candidate ever? I am so frikken sick of this double standard.

He's charismatic and popular so they need to shiat on him any way they can. Most people live in a skewed reality where they bend the objective truth to fit their conceptions. This is the modern world after Ed Bernays and the birth of PR. Fungible reality.

Yo Barak! Remember when we used to kick it back when we was teenagers? You did that coke with me and then we 'spent some time' with some white women?

Wait, I know this! Uhhhh, was it Hitler?

SeismicJizzer: Desterion: Some people are starting to wake up to the fact that Obama would make a far worse president than our current one. I know it's hard to imagine, but it's true.

just people who voted for bush... TWICE

Heh, stupidity is not cool.

lord-humungus: Yo Barak! Remember when we used to kick it back when we was teenagers? You did that coke with me and then we 'spent some time' with some white women?

Umm, ok. You see nothing racist about that, do you?

what scares me is knowing that some people will actually change their vote or finally decide on someone else just based on his assumed presumptuousness