Talk about a flip flopper.

nah McCain's not that stupid is he? This is a head fake.
never in a million years would the base go for Joe.

This may well be a Trivial Pursuit answer in the 2048 edition, followed by Jeopardy! in 2072.

this is such BS. Vetted? Really? He already is. This is just liberal make believe trying to scare the right.

move along NOTHING to see here.

McCain-Loserman 2008!

Awesome.

Politicians do stupid things?

Whoaz.

inebriated brain: this is such BS. Vetted? Really? He already is.

Is he? As I understand, the "vetting" process includes detailed disclosure of financial records and shiat like that, not just "how well are you and your positions known."

Thats why HRC was never really a contender for VP under Obama, because Bill didn't want a serious vetting of donations to his Presidential library. I hear (don't know for sure) that the Clintons wanted a "pass" on the normal vetting routine that Obama wasn't willing to accept.

Hobodeluxe: never in a million years would the base go for Joe.

Well he's liked by many in the talk radio circles because of his stance on Iraq, but he sure as hell won't deliver the religious right. It'd be a very poor pick on McCain's part.

co-conspirator: McCain-Loserman 2008!

Awesome.

More apt to call it "Snore-Loserman 2008."

awfulperson: More apt to call it "Snore-Loserman 2008."

I think we have a winner.

nekom: awfulperson: More apt to call it "Snore-Loserman 2008."

I think we have a winner.

I second the nomination.

Two "mavericks" of their respective parties
/o noes, we're all gonna die

There is no way in hell they will pick Lieberman. Move along, nothing to see here.

Lionel Mandrake: Is he?

I don't really know of course, but I would guess that McCain already knows what he needs to about Joe, as they are good friends. The McCain camp is not looking into his financial dealings or anything else because McCain could not possibly be that farking dumb. I am just saying that the KOS is putting out there to fark with the right.

NO WAY IN HELL does Lieberman end up on the Republican Ticket.

Hobodeluxe: nah McCain's not that stupid is he? This is a head fake.
never in a million years would the base go for Joe.

Some of the base would vote for McCain/ANYBODY over the big "o", myself included, and I think that may be what Johnny is counting on if this is true.
/Man I hate McCain.

inebriated brain: I don't really know of course, but I would guess that McCain already knows what he needs to about Joe, as they are good friends. The McCain camp is not looking into his financial dealings or anything else because McCain could not possibly be that farking dumb. I am just saying that the KOS is putting out there to fark with the right.

Yeah...I have my problems with Joe, but never any reason to think of him as blatantly crooked (compare to: I liked Bill Clinton as a President, but I do see him as...shifty, shall we say). But I am not certain of what the vetting process entails.

NO WAY IN HELL does Lieberman end up on the Republican Ticket.

I completely agree. But, for what it's worth (if anything), I've heard a lot of conjecture about McCain going "outside of the box" on his VP pick - if for no other reason than to create media buzz. I just don't see Joe as being that pick - maybe Jindal or Palin, but not Lieberman.

Pancakes Goes Kosher!

2wolves: Pancakes Goes Kosher!

Potatoe pancakes! (2.5)

2wolves: Pancakes Goes Kosher!



source: JTA, "the Global News Service of the Jewish People, is an international wire service covering issues of relevance to the Jewish community".
Which is to say: "Israel"

MisterTweak: Potatoe pancakes! (2.5)

Dan Quayle? Is that you?

/ :)

inebriated brain: I am just saying that the KOS is putting out there to fark with the right.

You know, if everyone would just read the 'KOS' articles before they talk about how full of shiat they are, they'd see things like the link to the Financial Times article that broke this news.

And the news is coming from the McCain camp, not 'KOS', at least according to the article.

McCain will go with Sarah Palin if he really wants to win.

Joe will only gain him the conservatives.

Mitt will sink him deeper than the McGovern / Shriver ticket of '72.

Skleenar: You know, if everyone would just read the 'KOS' articles before they talk about how full of shiat they are, they'd see things like the link to the Financial Times article that broke this news.

Isn't that annoying? 90% of "Kos" is just a summary of what was reported elsewhere, yet the multitude of douchebags just think they can dismiss out of hand anything that appears on the site.

Lionel Mandrake: 90% of "Kos" is just a summary of what was reported elsewhere, yet the multitude of douchebags just think they can dismiss out of hand anything that appears on the site.

...so it's like one of them...er, what are they called now?...y'know... uh... "news aggregator" sites?

Tabatha Static: ...so it's like one of them...er, what are they called now?...y'know... uh... "news aggregator" sites?

Yeah! FARK those things!

Tabatha Static: ...so it's like one of them...er, what are they called now?...y'know... uh... "news aggregator" sites?

Except at Kos, the submitter has a 100% chance of a greenlight (once per day), and unlimited characters in what amounts to the headline.

DarthBrooks: McCain will go with Sarah Palin if he really wants to win.

I read that as Sarah Connor. That would be cool.



\Gotta stop Farking and Drinking.

1proudneocon: Some of the base would vote for McCain/ANYBODY over the big "o", myself included, and I think that may be what Johnny is counting on if this is true.
/Man I hate McCain.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the reason why Obama will win. Usually, both parties are voting for "their guy" as the lesser of two evils.

This year, only one party is doing that (GOP). The Dems actually *gasp* like their guy. Being AGAINST someone isn't a winning strategy.

EZ1923: 1proudneocon: Some of the base would vote for McCain/ANYBODY over the big "o", myself included, and I think that may be what Johnny is counting on if this is true.
/Man I hate McCain.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the reason why Obama will win. Usually, both parties are voting for "their guy" as the lesser of two evils.

This year, only one party is doing that (GOP). The Dems actually *gasp* like their guy. Being AGAINST someone isn't a winning strategy.

If this theory were true, Kerry would have won the last election.

1proudneocon: If this theory were true, Kerry would have won the last election.

I think it is true, most Dems I knew were voting against Bush.

nekom: he sure as hell won't deliver the religious right.

Are you kidding me? Joe's support for John Hagee is well known. Lieberman wants to ingratiate himself with people who support Israel, knowing full well that they only support Israel because they want Jesus to come back.

Hmm, I wonder if they will let him stand behind McCain during the debates and whisper the correct answers into his ear.

So, does this make Lieberman the new Dan Reeves?

Everyone: As much as a dickhead as Lieberman is, he *is* pro-choice, which would cause the wingnuts to go bezerk. They like Lieberman *now* because he's a constant thorn in the Dems' side, but there's no way in hell that they'd actually vote him into the White House, especially when the guy at the top of the ticket is ancient and in horrible physical health. You really think they want a pro-choice Jew running the big show regardless of how much he sucks up to them?

DarthBrooks:

The good news about Palin is that she's a GILF:



The bad news is that she's currently embroiled in her own legal mess after forcing the Dept. of Public Safety to fire her own brother-in-law for no other reason than the fact that he was in the middle of a nasty divorce from her sister.

Oh, yeah, plus the fact that she's raising 5 young children, one of whom has Downs' Syndrome--I can't imagine that she's interested in shlepping her whole brood around the whole friggin' country, especially when her home base is 3,000 miles away from D.C. She can pull it off as Governor, which doesn't require her to leave the state, but VP is a whole different ballgame.

1proudneocon:
If this theory were true, Kerry would have won the last election.

Really? I don't think the Dems LIKED Kerry. He wasn't a likable guy. I think most people voted Kerry just to vote against Bush.

If McCain picks Lieberman (which he's probably not going to do, the idea is ridiculous), he might as well just concede now to Obama.

1proudneocon: If this theory were true, Kerry would have won the last election.

You know why I voted for Kerry? He wasn't Bush. That's it. He was my least favorite of all of the Dems running that year, but I sure as hell was not going to say "4 More Years"

The Icelander: Are you kidding me? Joe's support for John Hagee is well known. Lieberman wants to ingratiate himself with people who support Israel, knowing full well that they only support Israel because they want Jesus to come back.

I find this greatly amusing. People like Hagee support Israel because of their thoughts on Jesus' return.
Israel thanks them for their support, their money, and says "HA! Suckers. Thanks for the cash."

then again, i'm easily amused.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*gasp*AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That is all.

shivashakti: Really? I don't think the Dems LIKED Kerry. He wasn't a likable guy. I think most people voted Kerry just to vote against Bush.

GAT_00
You know why I voted for Kerry? He wasn't Bush. That's it. He was my least favorite of all of the Dems running that year, but I sure as hell was not going to say "4 More Years"


Yeah, that's my point exactly guys. The other guy said that obama would win 'cause being against sombody isn't a winning strategy. Repubs don't like McCain much, but dislike Obama more. Dem's were not too reved up about Kerry, but disliked Bush even more. I simply stated that it were true that obama would win based on this fact, then Kerry would have won by the same logic.

Yeah, if the southern Republican born-agains aren't going to vote for a woman or a black man, I'm pretty sure they wont' be voting for a Jew either.

Go for it, Joe. Obama needs the help.

/Voting Democratic, registered Republican.

1proudneocon: Yeah, that's my point exactly guys. The other guy said that obama would win 'cause being against sombody isn't a winning strategy. Repubs don't like McCain much, but dislike Obama more. Dem's were not too reved up about Kerry, but disliked Bush even more. I simply stated that it were true that obama would win based on this fact, then Kerry would have won by the same logic.

Not quite. Nobody was excited about Kerry, and that was his downfall. People are excited about Obama, meaning he may win. I don't seem to recall large numbers of strident conservatives switching sides when Kerry ran, like this time. I'm actually confused by your post, it doesn't seem to follow. You are trying to make two very different situations seem the same. 2004 and 2008 only have a passing familiarity with each other.

I know this is just pre-convention scuttlebutt and about as reliable as Marshall Applewhite's travel service, but it brings to mind this mental image I keep getting of McCain's election methodology. I just keep seeing McCain doused head to toe in brine, wearing a suit of chainmail, chewing up a big ol' sheet of tinfoil, and then taking a determined leap at the third rail. And the train's only twenty feet down the track and coming fast.

I sure would be surprised if McCain did this. Sure it'd make a media splash, being the first Ticket with two parties since Lincoln, but I think the base would have a hard time accepting Joe into the fold.

If Iraq weren't starting to cool down it might be different, about the only thing the base likes about Joe was his principled stance on Iraq. With that issue fading into the sunset I think McCain would be a fool to put him on the ticket.

Sure, Joe's a likable, principled guy, but he's far too liberal for the base imho.

1proudneocon: Two "mavericks" of their respective parties
/o noes, we're all gonna die

Two, neocons, not surpised you approve.

Occam's Chainsaw: I know this is just pre-convention scuttlebutt and about as reliable as Marshall Applewhite's travel service, but it brings to mind this mental image I keep getting of McCain's election methodology. I just keep seeing McCain doused head to toe in brine, wearing a suit of chainmail, chewing up a big ol' sheet of tinfoil, and then taking a determined leap at the third rail. And the train's only twenty feet down the track and coming fast.

All I see is this image of John McCain at a debate.



/Scary. Very scary.

1proudneocon:

Yeah, that's my point exactly guys. The other guy said that obama would win 'cause being against sombody isn't a winning strategy. Repubs don't like McCain much, but dislike Obama more. Dem's were not too reved up about Kerry, but disliked Bush even more. I simply stated that it were true that obama would win based on this fact, then Kerry would have won by the same logic.

Dude, you are actually retarded... wow.

By your logic it would be Obama that would win because Bush won... McCain would be the new Kerry... who lost. I'll make it simple for you:

Anybody but Obama :: Anybody but Bush
Purple Heart Band-aids :: Pancakes

God damn I hope you are a liberal posing as a moron conservative. Otherwise, you are just sad.

1proudneocon: EZ1923: 1proudneocon: Some of the base would vote for McCain/ANYBODY over the big "o", myself included, and I think that may be what Johnny is counting on if this is true.
/Man I hate McCain.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the reason why Obama will win. Usually, both parties are voting for "their guy" as the lesser of two evils.

This year, only one party is doing that (GOP). The Dems actually *gasp* like their guy. Being AGAINST someone isn't a winning strategy.

If this theory were true, Kerry would have won the last election.

Um, no, nobody on this side of the aisle actually liked Kerry. That is just silly.

Occam's Chainsaw: I know this is just pre-convention scuttlebutt and about as reliable as Marshall Applewhite's travel service, but it brings to mind this mental image I keep getting of McCain's election methodology. I just keep seeing McCain doused head to toe in brine, wearing a suit of chainmail, chewing up a big ol' sheet of tinfoil, and then taking a determined leap at the third rail. And the train's only twenty feet down the track and coming fast.

That's quite some imagry there - I want what you're drinkin!

I have to admit, McCain's campaign is horrid. I sometimes wonder if he didn't break out The Keystone Cops for an advisement team.

People kept saying that Obama's a weak candidate (and I agree) as evidenced by the trouble he had melting Hillary into a puddle. One could use the same argument now against McCain; if he were a stronger candidate, the map would look quite differently. Sure, BDS has given the left some momentum, but really, Bush's specter isn't insurmountable.

It's days like this I really wish Fred had gotten in earlier, eaten some damn spinich and done some good for the Right :(

So if it's McCain/Lieberman will a vote for them be a vote for the third in line?

So while I doubt this will ever happen, what do you suppose would happen to the 29%ers if it were McCain-Lieberman vs. Obama-Hagel?

Would heads explode? Would there be a tear in the fabric of the universe? Would flyover country fall into the sea?