In their defense, the GOP really didn't have much choice here- You can't ignore them, and by putting them first they might be old news by the time the nomination is announced. Now let's see if McCain can avoid being photographed with either of them during the convention.

Of course they are, they're the sitting president and vice president.

Broken9754: Of course they are, they're the sitting president and vice president.

the sitting president and vice president... sounds like a great name for a comedy team.

If only they were funny in a non tragic sort of way.

Maverick I tells ya, Maverick...

Well, the creaky old cart is still hitched to that crippled nag... so to speak.

Two Dogs Farking: Maverick I tells ya, Maverick...

Just because you're a maverick doesn't mean you're still part of the team. Take Obama-he's a maverick American, but that doesn't mean--wait..

Hmmm....that's not a good example.

Give me a few minutes?

I am boycotting the convention because they aren't having RON PAUL on stage. RON PAUL!

I'm sure Bush and Cheney will praise McCain's maverick ideals that are so very different from theirs.

So? They are the current president and vice president. They are GOP. Makes sense they might show up.

He'll do his best to minimize them. Real short speeches and lots of military standing nearby. That oughta do it.

Bush will attend but he won't like it. It'll be like last night at the Olympics. He'll keep checking his watch and drumming a mini US flag on his knee.

But: will he be seen on center stage spooning with them? Or will he be cowering backstage hoping that no one takes of picture of them together?

In a statement, the White House said, "The vice president looks forward to participating in the Republican National Convention and continuing to work for the election of Sen. McCain and other Republican candidates in the coming months."



What did McCain ever do to Cheney to deserve this!? I mean, I knew they didn't like one another but geez....

Weaver95: In a statement, the White House said, "The vice president looks forward to participating in the Republican National Convention and continuing to work for the election of Sen. McCain and other Republican candidates in the coming months."

Ladies and gentlemen, we have our Republican VP candidate!

They might as well have a pair of Zubaz make the opening speech.

Two Dogs Farking: Weaver95: In a statement, the White House said, "The vice president looks forward to participating in the Republican National Convention and continuing to work for the election of Sen. McCain and other Republican candidates in the coming months."

Ladies and gentlemen, we have our Republican VP candidate!

Only if Cheney himself is in charge of vetting VP candidates.

The McCain Coalition is much more than just the President. There's a wide variety of McCain supporters out there who can't trust Obama. What has Obama done to rebut the McCain "ready to lead" ads? nothing. And those ads are working like a charm. Obama is sinking in the polls.

Tabatha Static: But: will he be seen on center stage spooning with them? Or will he be cowering backstage hoping that no one takes of picture of them together?

I'm guessing "spooning on center stage."

The 30% of the nation that approves of Bush REALLY approves of him. Not involving them would be political suicide for McCain - he needs his base.

Tabatha Static: But: will he be seen on center stage spooning with them? Or will he be cowering backstage hoping that no one takes of picture of them together?

I know that if I were running his campaign, I'd have him in another city that first night...

...which means that yes, they'll be on stage together with Dubya giving McCain the Saudi kiss.

Lets get to some debates. The coventions are nothing more than televised ass-kissing festivals. With multi colored food. This is a waste of article space.

Deabtes while not definitive, offer at least some glimpse of something not scripted, choreographed and shoved up the pooper without even a kiss on the cheek or a slice of pizza.

McCain won't show up on stage of the RNcoontil the day of his speech.

Just like how Obama won't let himself be photographed with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid

so is american idol over yet? can we get on to the presidential election?

/can't wait until obama is a footnote
//in december 2008

adamgreeney 2008-08-09 02:23:34 PM
So? They are the current president and vice president. They are GOP. Makes sense they might show up.

This.
You mean the Republicans would want the Republican Pres and VP to speak at the GOP convention?
// SHOCKER???

// Imagine the crying by the farkers if they did not.
// We just want to find anything to complain/cry about .... we are farkers and we hate Bush ... but love congress???

ALERT!!! LEAKED TEXT OF CHENEY'S GOP SPEECH!

Cheney: Thank you to everyone here. I would just like to say
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
that is all.
kills baby and eats it.
thunderous applause.

McCainDemocrat: Just like how Obama won't let himself be photographed with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid

If I were Obama I wouldn't get within 100 meters of either of those two. I hear the life draining aura is lethal within 10 seconds.

I'd like to say I've never seen as many separate troll accounts on Fark, maybe in it's entire history combined, than there are right now. Regardless of whose alt is whose, seriously, there are SO MANY.

Weaver95: If I were Obama I wouldn't get within 100 meters of either of those two. I hear the life draining aura is lethal within 10 seconds.

Ahhh, yes. The smell of rotten tuna and ben gay. Lethal indeed.

It's less appealing than the smell of dead babies and anthrax laced crude oil.

McCainDemocrat: The McCain Coalition is much more than just the President. There's a wide variety of McCain supporters out there who can't trust Obama. What has Obama done to rebut the McCain "ready to lead" ads? nothing. And those ads are working like a charm. Obama is sinking in the polls.

There is no such thing as the McCain Coalition.

There are indeed people out there who don't trust Obama, but there are also a lot of people out there who don't trust McCain. They're both politicians, they are both guilty until proven innocent.

Obama doesn't need to rebut the 'ready to lead' ads. Those that buy into them aren't going to be persuaded to Obama anyways. The rest of us have common sense and roll our eyes at those ads.

The polls are meaningless, they've been all over the place in these elections.

If you support continuing the war in Iraq and thought it was a good idea in the first place, vote McCain. If not, Obama is the choice. That's essentially what this election is / should be about.

DrowningLessons: I'd like to say I've never seen as many separate troll accounts on Fark, maybe in it's entire history combined, than there are right now. Regardless of whose alt is whose, seriously, there are SO MANY.

Have you always been this obnoxious? Whose ALT are you?

They will both speak on Labor Day, when almost no one will be watching except maybe some of the 28%ers. McCain will speak on the last day and that is what most people will be watching the convention for. The GOP knows this so they placed them as far apart as possible to prevent political suicide.

McCainDemocrat: The McCain Coalition is much more than just the President. There's a wide variety of McCain supporters out there who can't trust Obama. What has Obama done to rebut the McCain "ready to lead" ads? nothing. And those ads are working like a charm. Obama is sinking in the polls.

Yeah he's sinking pretty badly, his numbers almost dropped to the same level as McCain's for a day or two there.

3_Butt_Cheeks: DrowningLessons: I'd like to say I've never seen as many separate troll accounts on Fark, maybe in it's entire history combined, than there are right now. Regardless of whose alt is whose, seriously, there are SO MANY.

Have you always been this obnoxious? Whose ALT are you?

A reasoned and interesting counterpoint.

BTW McCain has to do this. Not having them there would raise too many questions. For better or worse Bush is a part of the republican party's history now.

So what, its not like people care about the republican convention. They won't be able to garner the same enthusiasm as Obama's convention.

/Even McCain knows it

DrowningLessons: A reasoned and interesting counterpoint.

As was yours in the other thread. Perhaps no more senseless, random name calling?

McCainDemocrat: The McCain Coalition is much more than just the President. There's a wide variety of McCain supporters out there who can't trust Obama. What has Obama done to rebut the McCain "ready to lead" ads? nothing. And those ads are working like a charm. Obama is sinking in the polls.

3_Butt_Cheeks: DrowningLessons: A reasoned and interesting counterpoint.

As was yours in the other thread. Perhaps no more senseless, random name calling?

LOLWUT

Anyway

nazbot: BTW McCain has to do this. Not having them there would raise too many questions. For better or worse Bush is a part of the republican party's history now.

Originally what I came in here to say. You're stuck with 'em now, elephants!!

captain_napalm: so is american idol over yet? can we get on to the presidential election?

/can't wait until obama is a footnote
//in december 2008

That you even have a MySpace account is funny enough, but yours is true gold. Just thought I'd let you know how much joy you brought to my afternoon.

McCainDemocrat: The McCain Coalition is much more than just the most awesome gnarliest thing ever....

Man, you totally phoned that one in. I am let down- even if it is the weekend, I expected better from you. Still, the McCain coalition sounds rad. Please describe it more!

DrowningLessons: 3_Butt_Cheeks: DrowningLessons: A reasoned and interesting counterpoint.

As was yours in the other thread. Perhaps no more senseless, random name calling?

LOLWUT

Anyway

DrowningLessons: Has 3_Butt_Cheeks always been an obnoxious McCain apologist, and I've missed it all these months, or has something changed?

nazbot: BTW McCain has to do this. Not having them there would raise too many questions. For better or worse Bush is a part of the republican party's history now.

Mordant: Broken9754: Of course they are, they're the sitting president and vice president.

the sitting president and vice president... sounds like a great name for a comedy team.

If only they were funny in a non tragic sort of way.

"Tragic" is a bit of an exaggeration. Disappointing, sure, but tragedy requires disaster on a much grander scale. Bush hasn't even been completely incompetent (I'm looking at you, U.S. Grant), just mostly incompetent. We've had worse, and I kinda wish people would stop being so hysterical about it.

Before the b..b...but Clinton! guys, I feel much the same way about him. And Carter, for that matter. There have been presidents that would have been great regardless of their time period (Jackson, for instance), and presidents who were the right man for the time in a way that had a big impact (FDR and Reagan are the ones from the last century, I'd say), but the vast majority are either quietly competent and largely unremarked because things went smoothly (Eisenhower), in at the wrong time and either drop the ball or take the blame (Hoover), or are simply riding the tide of politics and largely don't influence events themselves beyond acting as a party lever (Clinton, Bush 1 and 2, Hayes).

//Historical perspective... I can has it?
//We're largely in a period of prosperity and technological and social advancement that has nothing to do with politics. Hell, the only thing we really have to complain about is the inevitable boom-bust cycle of speculative markets. There's no apocalypse going on, and Bush isn't running around putting a mark on your hand or forehead before you can buy goods.
//Sheesh.


//Damn, I'm ranty today. Excuse to make historical references gets me every time, I guess.

Getting real tired of McCain's 'superstar' ads running through all the Olympics coverage. Even Paris Hilton called them on their bullshiat, and they're still running it.

"Some will say that tactics have been heavy handed and borderline illegal, but our capture of Osama Bin Ladennnnnnssss Limo driver is evidence to the contrary!"

Jim_Callahan: "Tragic" is a bit of an exaggeration. Disappointing, sure, but tragedy requires disaster on a much grander scale. Bush hasn't even been completely incompetent (I'm looking at you, U.S. Grant), just mostly incompetent. We've had worse, and I kinda wish people would stop being so hysterical about it.

I can't agree. I do not think we've ever had worse. I also think that too many of his 'mistakes' were deliberate.

Alphax: Getting real tired of McCain's 'superstar' ads running through all the Olympics coverage. Even Paris Hilton called them on their bullshiat, and they're still running it.

It's all they have.

adamgreeney: So? They are the current president and vice president. They are GOP. Makes sense they might show up.

If this were any normal presidency, even a reasonably unpopular one, then it would. But Bush and Cheney are extraordinarily unpopular. I think he'd be much better off doing everything he could to prevent them from appearing, even if it means ruffling a few feathers with the higher-ups at the GOP. Many would see it as a huge middle finger in the face of this administration, and most would applaud it, even if they're not voting for him. It's the single biggest thing he can do to put some positive light on his campaign and actually look like a maverick for once, IMHO.

The Name: adamgreeney: So? They are the current president and vice president. They are GOP. Makes sense they might show up.

If this were any normal presidency, even a reasonably unpopular one, then it would. But Bush and Cheney are extraordinarily unpopular. I think he'd be much better off doing everything he could to prevent them from appearing, even if it means ruffling a few feathers with the higher-ups at the GOP. Many would see it as a huge middle finger in the face of this administration, and most would applaud it, even if they're not voting for him. It's the single biggest thing he can do to put some positive light on his campaign and actually look like a maverick for once, IMHO.

He'd lose a good portion of the 30% that support the administration. It would be electoral suicide.