"It is a residential home in a residential neighborhood," she said. "This is Mr. Deeb's hobby. He's still got bunches of ideas. I think Mr. Deeb has crossed a line somewhere.

.....And we have to find that line before Mr. Deeb finds a good tort lawyer or we're in a mess of trouble.

This is not what we would consider to be a customary home occupation. ...


Well who gives a fark what you think?

Given the excesses of government and swat teams invading our lives, I wonder if we shouldn't start providing them with information.....

"I saw possible biological bomb making components under my neighbors sink!"

"There was a plastic bag of brown powder in the pantry!"

"He was digging a hole in his garden!"

"I saw an exchange of money and goods take place in their parking lot!"


Just overload the fukk out of them and see if they can keep up.

real shaman: I can make explosives, poisonous gases, and caustic solvents from the stuff under my kitchen sink.

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!

I'VE GOT A BOTTLE OF BLEACH AND A BOTTLE OF AMMONIA, DON'T MAKE ME USE THEM COPPERS

/did once forget I'd cleaned something with a cleanser with bleach in it and poured ammonia on it
//not good times at all

jake_lex: not good times at all

Pay no attention to the green smoke.....

I've been told that bleach and brake fluid makes a great smoke bomb. Slightly toxic, but plenty of it.

Welcome to Soviet America.

intelligence and curiosity are illegal in Massachusetts
Not only are they illegal, but also dangerous. Just ask the students of Miskatonic U!
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

Pamela A. Wilderman, Marlboro's code enforcement officer, said Mr. Deeb was doing scientific research and development in a residential area, which is a violation of zoning laws.


Scientific discovery is covered by the zoning laws?!

No wonder this country is screwed. why not just burn the guy at a stake for witchcraft lady?

Weaver95: Pamela A. Wilderman, Marlboro's code enforcement officer, said Mr. Deeb was doing scientific research and development in a residential area, which is a violation of zoning laws.


Scientific discovery is covered by the zoning laws?!

No wonder this country is screwed. why not just burn the guy at a stake for witchcraft lady?

My thoughts exactly. Doesn't this mean that by definition any form of science-related work done at home would be illegal? Consider an engineer who works for a company that is doing research on a new project and he brings home something to work on at home. That certainly fits the description of R&D. Or perhaps an experimental scientist is building some sort of device and decides to bring a part of it home to work-on or upgrade. Does that count too?

I'm curious where the line is drawn.

That reminds me: Add diesel and fertilizer to Today's shopping list.

These kinds of things happen out west.

/anyplace west of Newton is "out west"

He's not a mad scientist but he is annoyed.

Well, it had a very sinister appearance. It had a battery behind it, and wires.

Just wait until your town decides that your garage workshop is an unlicensed manufacturing operation.

I hope all these people that raided his basement get a mysterious package in the mail in the near future...Don't fark with chemists...

So, now Canada and Mexico are the new bastions of freedom?.

Woohoo!.

Weaver95: Pamela A. Wilderman, Marlboro's code enforcement officer, said Mr. Deeb was doing scientific research and development in a residential area, which is a violation of zoning laws.


Scientific discovery is covered by the zoning laws?!

No wonder this country is screwed. why not just burn the guy at a stake for witchcraft lady?

Next up: bringing files home from the office is a violation of zoning regulations, and will get your house expropriated.

He was trying to make flubber!

I'm sure these guys could tell you some interesting stories too...

Canadian Canuck: Doesn't this mean that by definition any form of science-related work done at home would be illegal? Consider an engineer who works for a company that is doing research on a new project and he brings home something to work on at home.

You don't even need to go that far with it! What about the kid who builds a model rocket from scratch instead of from a kit?

as an intelligent and curious MAsshole with chemicals in my house, i'm getting a kick...

This is awesome. Your surveillance society is processing nicely.

If you see something, SAY SOMETHING!

jake_lex: real shaman: I can make explosives, poisonous gases, and caustic solvents from the stuff under my kitchen sink.

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!

I'VE GOT A BOTTLE OF BLEACH AND A BOTTLE OF AMMONIA, DON'T MAKE ME USE THEM COPPERS

/did once forget I'd cleaned something with a cleanser with bleach in it and poured ammonia on it
//not good times at all


Approves. If I remember the book correctly.

Also found in the house.


Test Tube goes where?

Plan:

1: goto mayors house, rifle through trash looking for simple household chemicals that could be dangerous. Call police and report.
2:???
3: PROFIT

real shaman: I can make explosives, poisonous gases, and caustic solvents from the stuff under my kitchen sink.

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!

I can do that with the stuff in the fridge.

"It is a residential home in a residential neighborhood," she said. "This is Mr. Deeb's hobby. He's still got bunches of ideas. I think Mr. Deeb has crossed a line somewhere. This is not what we would consider to be a customary home occupation. ... There are regulations about how much you're supposed to have, how it's detained, how it's disposed of."

This man clearly has broken some law. He had too much of one thing going on in his home!

IF he had more than one hobby it would be ok. Like car parts and tools in the garage, porno mags laying around and a train set.

Stupid stupid stupid. They need to just understand some people enjoy chemistry.

/Chem major

real shaman: Given the excesses of government and swat teams invading our lives, I wonder if we shouldn't start providing them with information.....

"I saw possible biological bomb making components under my neighbors sink!"

"There was a plastic bag of brown powder in the pantry!"

"He was digging a hole in his garden!"

"I saw an exchange of money and goods take place in their parking lot!"


Just overload the fukk out of them and see if they can keep up.

I had a similar thought upon hearing a recent news blurb from CNN. Apparently, the local SWAT team recently raided the house of Cheye Calvo, the mayor of Berwyn Heights, Maryland. And all because an enterprising criminal had a large shipment of marijuana mailed to his address, which they would've then swiped off his porch had plans not gone awry. This got me thinking. Why not do similar to functionaries at all levels of the government? Expose them to the real Kafkaesque horror that is US law enforcement. Simply mail a package containing marijuana to some unassuming government stooge, making sure to practice strict non-contamination protocols so as not to leave evidence. Label it from some charitable organization so they're more likely to bring it inside their house. Then kindly inform the associated law enforcement agencies that so-and-so is trafficking drugs and expecting a shipment.

Double bonus points if you get the feds involved.

Thomas Edison laughs at your quaint socialist ways.

/as do Bell, Westinghouse, and Franklin

Cosmic Crab: real shaman: I can make explosives, poisonous gases, and caustic solvents from the stuff under my kitchen sink.

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!

I can do that with the stuff in the fridge.

HAH

The stuff in my fridge does that on its own.

I had my last lab of my senior year class canceled because we couldn't get permission to run a certain neutron generator from the safety folks at my school until the day before the lab. The machine had to be run once a year or it didn't work (had to be sent back to the manufacturer for upkeep); it hadn't been allowed to run in two years.

My professor, on what should have been our last lab, told us we could all leave if we wanted, but that he'd still lecture if we stayed. We all stayed, and he went off about how, since 2000, any scientific work had been further and further restricted. We were "officially" hindered from our work by the safety folks... and he was told, off the record, that that came from DHS.

The thinking was, DHS told them to not let us run the machine, but to not tell us that's what they were doing. So they just took forever on the approval process, until we couldn't run it.

Great lecture. Depressing as hell, considering it was my last lecture in that department.

This country's screwed, innovation-wise. I'm looking for ways to leave just so I don't have to watch my back so frightfully for fear of losing a security clearance I'd need to do nearly any work I'm qualified for. I don't do anything illegal, but I'm worried if I show up to a protest, or write something to the local paper, I'll be blacklisted with no explanation. Paranoid, maybe, but not unheard of and they have the power to do so.

That's f--ked up.

Occam's Chainsaw: real shaman: Given the excesses of government and swat teams invading our lives, I wonder if we shouldn't start providing them with information.....

"I saw possible biological bomb making components under my neighbors sink!"

"There was a plastic bag of brown powder in the pantry!"

"He was digging a hole in his garden!"

"I saw an exchange of money and goods take place in their parking lot!"


Just overload the fukk out of them and see if they can keep up.

I had a similar thought upon hearing a recent news blurb from CNN. Apparently, the local SWAT team recently raided the house of Cheye Calvo, the mayor of Berwyn Heights, Maryland. And all because an enterprising criminal had a large shipment of marijuana mailed to his address, which they would've then swiped off his porch had plans not gone awry. This got me thinking. Why not do similar to functionaries at all levels of the government? Expose them to the real Kafkaesque horror that is US law enforcement. Simply mail a package containing marijuana to some unassuming government stooge, making sure to practice strict non-contamination protocols so as not to leave evidence. Label it from some charitable organization so they're more likely to bring it inside their house. Then kindly inform the associated law enforcement agencies that so-and-so is trafficking drugs and expecting a shipment.

Double bonus points if you get the feds involved.

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Crosshair: I've been told that bleach and brake fluid makes a great smoke bomb. Slightly toxic, but plenty of it.

Step it up by replacing the bleach with concentrated pool chlorine "shock treatment" granules. Cap a bottle with the mixture in the bottom, and boom. Leave the cap off, and get a nice jet of flame. The smoke is nasty stuff. Also the reaction is very touchy to initial temperature. I've seen 60 seconds before reaction in the winter, and less than a second in the summer.

We played with fun and explosive chemicals in the early 90s. The legal climate has changed. So, I recommend never doing this.

Chaosdawn
as an intelligent and curious MAsshole with chemicals in my house, i'm getting a kick...


/ditto here

Unknown_Poltroon: Occam's Chainsaw: real shaman: Given the excesses of government and swat teams invading our lives, I wonder if we shouldn't start providing them with information.....

"I saw possible biological bomb making components under my neighbors sink!"

"There was a plastic bag of brown powder in the pantry!"

"He was digging a hole in his garden!"

"I saw an exchange of money and goods take place in their parking lot!"


Just overload the fukk out of them and see if they can keep up.

I had a similar thought upon hearing a recent news blurb from CNN. Apparently, the local SWAT team recently raided the house of Cheye Calvo, the mayor of Berwyn Heights, Maryland. And all because an enterprising criminal had a large shipment of marijuana mailed to his address, which they would've then swiped off his porch had plans not gone awry. This got me thinking. Why not do similar to functionaries at all levels of the government? Expose them to the real Kafkaesque horror that is US law enforcement. Simply mail a package containing marijuana to some unassuming government stooge, making sure to practice strict non-contamination protocols so as not to leave evidence. Label it from some charitable organization so they're more likely to bring it inside their house. Then kindly inform the associated law enforcement agencies that so-and-so is trafficking drugs and expecting a shipment.

Double bonus points if you get the feds involved.

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Ditto.

Just make sure you call from a pay phone in an area without cameras, so they don't try to arrest you on false charges. Pick someone high up enough, and it might come to that.

/now who's knocking on my door?

real shaman: I can make explosives, poisonous gases, and caustic solvents from the stuff under my kitchen sink.

Napalm is easy to mix. See here, for example.

I like how they are going to destroy all of his chemicals after they finish testing them. That's really friendly. So much for the patents he's working on.

Occam's Chainsaw: real shaman: Given the excesses of government and swat teams invading our lives, I wonder if we shouldn't start providing them with information.....

"I saw possible biological bomb making components under my neighbors sink!"

"There was a plastic bag of brown powder in the pantry!"

"He was digging a hole in his garden!"

"I saw an exchange of money and goods take place in their parking lot!"


Just overload the fukk out of them and see if they can keep up.

I had a similar thought upon hearing a recent news blurb from CNN. Apparently, the local SWAT team recently raided the house of Cheye Calvo, the mayor of Berwyn Heights, Maryland. And all because an enterprising criminal had a large shipment of marijuana mailed to his address, which they would've then swiped off his porch had plans not gone awry. This got me thinking. Why not do similar to functionaries at all levels of the government? Expose them to the real Kafkaesque horror that is US law enforcement. Simply mail a package containing marijuana to some unassuming government stooge, making sure to practice strict non-contamination protocols so as not to leave evidence. Label it from some charitable organization so they're more likely to bring it inside their house. Then kindly inform the associated law enforcement agencies that so-and-so is trafficking drugs and expecting a shipment.

Double bonus points if you get the feds involved.


This would of course involve the wasteful disposition of what I would assume to be perfectly good weed.

Don't think I can go there.

The point here is that, if he's storing cartons and cartons of chemicals in his basement, then he's got a real hazard there that the authorities have to take seriously.

From a building code standpoint, storage of certain chemicals requires certain minimum building standards: rated walls, fire sprinklers, vents and such. If a fire broke out you could have fumes coming out of his basement that could possibly kill all the residents on his and nearby blocks. (Then we'd be talking about what kind of dumbass keeps those kinds of chemicals in his basement, by the way.). That's why buildings of a particular occupancy designed to store these things in quantity are zoned to particular places, away from residential areas.

Occam's Chainsaw: Apparently, the local SWAT team recently raided the house of Cheye Calvo, the mayor of Berwyn Heights, Maryland.

FYA:

On July 29, a Prince George's county detective posing as a deliveryman dropped off a 32-pound (14.5-kilometre) package of marijuana for Calvo,

I have to say, something that big is bound to attract attention.

/not to mention the size of the delivery guy who brings it

jmr61: This would of course involve the wasteful disposition of what I would assume to be perfectly good weed.

Don't think I can go there.

My wife said something similar. I consider it ammunition expended in a greater war.

Marlboro: where you normally would be ingesting chemicals in your house, not studying them.

real shaman: I can make explosives, poisonous gases, and caustic solvents from the stuff under my kitchen sink.



I can ride my bike with no handlebars.

Next up: having more than one computer per person or even one "server" is a violation of zoning laws and all computers will be confiscated.

I'll bet she was after the eye bleach!

StreetlightInTheGhetto: since 2000, any scientific work had been further and further restricted.

Funny, that... :(

The Great Gazoo: The point here is that, if he's storing cartons and cartons of chemicals in his basement, then he's got a real hazard there that the authorities have to take seriously.


FTFA: but no more dangerous than typical household cleaning products.

"Basement full of chemicals" doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as "basement full of unstable ordinance"

Let me tell you what really happened: Every night before I go to bed, I have milk and cookies. One night I mixed some low-fat milk and some pasteurized, then I dipped my cookie in ... and the shiat blew up.