they will soon calm down once The Messiah begins laying on hands and soothing their troubled brows

That post is a bit, um...unsavory.

I guess I can see how some might enjoy the shadenfreude that comes from seeing someone's trust being shattered.

But me? It's just something I don't really feel the need to witness.

/disclaimer: John Edwards was my first pick, too.

*sigh*

Why do so many people feel they are part of the sex police?

Kome: *sigh*

Why do so many people feel they are part of the sex police?

sex police?



rawr

"original Messiah?"

That sucks.

/I prefer extra-crispy Messiah.

Kome: *sigh*

Why do so many people feel they are part of the sex police?

Well, the church police are tied up investigating the dead bishop on the landing.

I think that this is all a bit of an over reaction because of the sensitivity that so many Democrats have from the Clinton years. I am a bit ambivalent about it.

It is terrible that he did this, but I was never a big supporter of his and don't feel particularly betrayed by him. But, I understand why so many people are so personally hurt by this.

Nabb1: Well, the church police are tied up investigating the dead bishop on the landing.

What's all this then, Amen!

People who cheat on their significant other are terrible people, but to the best of my knowledge Edwards was never a moral crusader. I know he opposed gay marriage, but unlike a lot of conservatives he never pretended to be sexually "moral" in the typical conservative sense. Unless he really was a moral crusader, this is his own business, unlike when conservatives in the Democrat Party and Republican Party get busted. The Republican equivalent is probably Giuliani, who wasn't a social conservative. There doesn't appear to be any hypocrisy with Edwards.

Suicidal Writer: There doesn't appear to be any hypocrisy with Edwards.

I suspect that hypocrisy is not what bothers folks about this.

another greenlight on this subject? Did Danlpoon become an admin?

Suicidal Writer: to the best of my knowledge Edwards was never a moral crusader.

He wasn't. At least not in the conservative sense. IIRC, he was somewhat of a family values candidate. So I guess I can see how his supporters may feel a little betrayed.

"He's a Lienz Kossack!"

Does anybody get the feeling that the GOP would be flogging the same "Messiah"/"Not enough experience"/"Most Liberal Senator in the world" talking points whether the Dem nominee had been Obama, Clinton, or Edwards?

Suicidal Writer: but to the best of my knowledge Edwards was never a moral crusader

60 minutes interview with him and his dying wife:

But, I think every single candidate for president, Republican and Democratic have lives, personal lives, that indicate something about what kind of human being they are. And I think it is a fair evaluation for America to engage in to look at what kind of human beings each of us are, and what kind of president we'd make.

albo: But, I think every single candidate for president, Republican and Democratic have lives, personal lives, that indicate something about what kind of human being they are. And I think it is a fair evaluation for America to engage in to look at what kind of human beings each of us are, and what kind of president we'd make.

There goes his political career--at least in electoral politics. He may have to settle for some podunk appointment somewhere.

albo: 60 minutes interview with him and his dying wife:

But, I think every single candidate for president, Republican and Democratic have lives, personal lives, that indicate something about what kind of human being they are. And I think it is a fair evaluation for America to engage in to look at what kind of human beings each of us are, and what kind of president we'd make.

Yeah he did make his great family a centerpiece, but this whole incident lacks the satisfaction of Larry "anti-gay" Craig getting caught trying to pick up men, or Elliot "anti-prostitution" Spitzer getting caught with a prostitute, or Gary "I dare you to catch me" Hart getting caught, or David "marriage is sacred" Vitter getting caught with a prostitute.

In all those cases, I felt sorry for the families, but their was also the satisfaction of a crusading, arrogant dickhead getting caught being a hypocrite.

There's some of that hypocrisy here, but not much.

Mugato: "He's a Lienz Kossack!"

GODDAMN YOU!!! I came here to say that!

Lionel Mandrake: There's some of that hypocrisy here, but not much.

I don't think it's so much hypocrisy as it is that a lot of people did, in fact, like the guy and his message (comme moi), and feel a bit let down now that all of it is going to waste because he couldn't invoke cloture on his Junior Senator, ifyouknowwhatImean.

fark political links have been really shiatty the last few days.

ranting into ether again are we?

My favorite thing about this is that CNN is still using the "who farted y'all?" photo of Hunter on their front page.

He's a piece of shiat. Wait until his wife passes before picking up a spoon to go back to the buffet.

Half of America cheats on their spouse but it takes a special kind of douchebag to cheat on your cancer-striken spouse while they're still alive.

/kossack

Feh. At least Democrats can get laid without hanging out in men's rooms and tapping toes....

The only thing that appealed to me about Edwards was his interest in fighting poverty, which I believe is important for the economy and the health of the nation. One of the things that always made me wary of him were Farkers of all political beliefs from his home state who kept insisting he was a douche. Looks like they were right.

/thanks Fark!

You know, in a weird way I think this might be good for Obama. The last thing McCain needs is people talking about infidelity.


/yea yea I know I live in an imaginary fantasyland with unicorns and an objective press

How many greenlights are we going to have about this today?

People are pissed because his populist message is ruined. And rightly so- this is a shadow that's going to hang over the Democratic Party up to and possibly through November.

5h4wn: ranting into ether again are we?

At first I found it odd that the McCain campaign used this wording, but then I remembered that ether frolics were all the rage when McCain was a young man.

Could it be the reason you use the word "messiah" so cheaply is because you don't truthfully hold it in that much reverence?

depmode98: fark political links have been really shiatty the last few days.

I've noticed that too. So many boring, silly stories. It's just not been that fun. I guess it's just the political season.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Lionel Mandrake: There's some of that hypocrisy here, but not much.

I don't think it's so much hypocrisy as it is that a lot of people did, in fact, like the guy and his message (comme moi), and feel a bit let down now that all of it is going to waste because he couldn't invoke cloture on his Junior Senator, ifyouknowwhatImean.

I think it's more the fact that he knowingly risked the Democrats' chances to win back the presidency and could have seriously jeopardized the causes he says he believes so strongly in. This happened before he decided to run for president again; what if he won the nomination and the story broke right now? It was an incredibly stupid and selfish move on his part, and I have absolutely no sympathy for him here. He didn't just risk his political future, he risked setting back progressive causes and candidates for years to come.

ucfknights: He's a piece of shiat. Wait until his wife passes before picking up a spoon to go back to the buffet.

Half of America cheats on their spouse but it takes a special kind of douchebag to cheat on your cancer-striken spouse while they're still alive.

/kossack

It wouldn't surprise me if he and his wife had an agreement that he could satisfy his urges elsewhere while she was treated for cancer and most likely had no interest in sex. Still a douchey thing to do and he had to have known how it would look. I think the Clintons probably have a similar arrangement, without the cancer. Unless you count the cancer of power.

ucfknights: Half of America cheats on their spouse but it takes a special kind of douchebag to cheat on your cancer-striken spouse while they're still alive.

From what I've read he cheated on her and confessed in 2006, at which point I don't think the wife had cancer yet. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Opiate of the Lasses: ucfknights: Half of America cheats on their spouse but it takes a special kind of douchebag to cheat on your cancer-striken spouse while they're still alive.

From what I've read he cheated on her and confessed in 2006, at which point I don't think the wife had cancer yet. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Can I correct you if even if you're right? I'm just an asshat like that.

Opiate of the Lasses: ucfknights: Half of America cheats on their spouse but it takes a special kind of douchebag to cheat on your cancer-striken spouse while they're still alive.

From what I've read he cheated on her and confessed in 2006, at which point I don't think the wife had cancer yet. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

She was diagnosed the day Kerry conceded in 2004. (new window)

Dr.Zom: She was diagnosed the day Kerry conceded in 2004. (new window)

Then I stand corrected.

GoRedSoxGo: How many greenlights are we going to have about this today?

People are pissed because his populist message is ruined. And rightly so- this is a shadow that's going to hang over the Democratic Party up to and possibly through November.

I don't see why it should. It's not like the Republicans are under the shadow of Larry Craig and Ted Stevens. Just the guy who dumped his wife for the beer heiress.

On the one hand, I'm not sure who made Daily Kos the moral authority on marriage. You're shocked to the point of spluttering that a national politician had an affair? Really? Get over yourselves, guys.

On the other hand, at least they have to stones to address the issue. If we were talking about a Republican here, all the conservative bloggers would be defending him.

Aren't Kossacks supposed to be the anti-Communists? Or am I missing something here?

as much as I think its farking horse shiat that there's been like 9 greenlights on this so far and not one on the cia forged evidence bullshiat,

I will say, what the hell was Edwards thinking...? what if he won the nomination? He would have farked us all.

Nukular Winter Does anybody get the feeling that the GOP would be flogging the same "Messiah"/"Not enough experience"/"Most Liberal Senator in the world" talking points whether the Dem nominee had been Obama, Clinton, or Edwards?

As a Republican, I am qualified to answer your questions (and unlike Edwards, you can take what I claim as being the truth to the best of my knowledge 99% of the time).

On Messiah, nope. Only Obama. And just because of the words he has chosen to use and because of the reaction of his most ardent supporters.

On not enough experience: Definitely if it was Edwards. Probably a bit on Hillary, although it would have been more along the lines of "her experience as First Lady either doesn't count, or if it does then don't forget her attempt at 'leading' on HillaryCare."

On being the most liberal: Not on Edwards, since he wasn't--- although we would have accurately claimed he is more liberal than his Senate voting record. On Hillary, possibly, but again I think it is more likely that we would have said that her voting record is very liberal, but that was while she was trying to pretend to be a moderate to set up her Presidential run, so you ain't seen nothing yet. With Obama, it just happens to be very close to being true (Sanders has him beat).

Hope that helps.

Opiate of the Lasses: You know, in a weird way I think this might be good for Obama. The last thing McCain needs is people talking about infidelity.

I don't have a problem that McCain cheated on his wife repeatedly. But he did so like you were saying before when she was injured. He also pays her almost nothing in alimony even though his wife is completely rich.

It's not about the cheating he just refuses to take responsibility for it.

"John Edwards is not the father of her child. The father is Mohammed Jassim Ali, a successful mechanic from An Nasiriyah."

GoRedSoxGo: How many greenlights are we going to have about this today?

People are pissed because his populist message is ruined. And rightly so- this is a shadow that's going to hang over the Democratic Party up to and possibly through November.

Not if Edwards does the decent thing and pulls a fast fade. The election is months away, a lot of people don't really care - and let's face it - the public have the attention span of a gnat. I have noticed that every time one of these "shocking revelations" about one candidate or another comes out, people who oppose them start crowing, "OOoooh, THIS is gonna sink _________s ship!". Nu-uh. Believe me. If it doesn't happen in October, they'll forget it by the election.

A defeated politician
and his wife walking dead

15 minutes more fame --
at an end, and still

Lo -- ye that look on,
for too soon yourself

the horizon ends all
where pride subsides

into shame. Defeat.

Suicidal Writer: but unlike a lot of conservatives he never pretended to be sexually "moral" in the typical conservative sense

I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen. - Senator John Edwards on the Lewinsky affair.

From the link-- "Do us all a favor, eh? Disappear for the next three months. "

Do liberals really think this guy has a political career that can be resurrected?

Really?

/John Edwards is rightfully done as a political force. Forever. Not just for the next three months/this election.

Screw you, subtard.

Name me one Democratic-leaning voter who regards ANY Democratic politician as a "messiah". That BS is just a right-wing attempt at minimalizing any support that any Democrat receives. We see through your bullcrap, and we laugh at idiots like you.

/Added Bonus: If Edwards were considered to be a "messiah", why did Democrats smack him down as a candidate twice in a row?

Yukon Callmeal: From the link-- "Do us all a favor, eh? Disappear for the next three months. "

Do liberals really think this guy has a political career that can be resurrected?

Really?

/John Edwards is rightfully done as a political force. Forever. Not just for the next three months/this election.


I think it's more of a "don't you dare mess up this election" sentiment. Rather than a "be quiet then run for office next year" statement.