unless this is to set russ up for a presidential run in 8 years, let's leave him in the senate where he does a wonderful job.

9% approval rating. "Wonderful" job?

pdeals--that 9% is for Congress AS A WHOLE, not for individual Reps or Senators. There's 535 of them in all. Many individual members of Congress--say, for instance, the ones who have consistently voted against the Bush admin, like Feingold--have far higher approval ratings. Feingold even managed to win reelection in 2004 by 8 points.

As for Feingold as Veep overall--I'd be deliriously happy, but also sad since, as burntdan noted, he'd no longer be in the Senate.

pdeals: 9% approval rating. "Wonderful" job?

Produce your data, or you are simply full of shiat.

I currently live in WI, and not only is there absolutely nobody so far mounting a serious challenge to him for 2010, but he won his last election very handily.

Sorry if your Bush is one of the greatest presidential failures in American history.

burndtdan: unless this is to set russ up for a presidential run in 8 years, let's leave him in the senate where he does a wonderful job.

Yeah, a fine job delivering one of the worst assaults on free speech since the Fairness Doctrine and the Alien and Sedition Acts. Who was the other guy responsible for that? Oh, yeah, John McCain. That's just great. Oh, happy day.

Nabb1: Yeah, a fine job delivering one of the worst assaults on free speech since the Fairness Doctrine and the Alien and Sedition Acts. Who was the other guy responsible for that? Oh, yeah, John McCain. That's just great. Oh, happy day.

You catch this tidbit?

Clearly, he is popular with libertarians and Independents in Wisconsin. (2004 exit poll results here). Oh, and even Republicans admire his tenacity and his principles. Of course, he also reminds them of the McCain-Feingold bill, which they hate McCain for.

yeah that choice sits rather well with me Russ is one of the good guys. Hope this guy's right.

Nabb1: burndtdan: unless this is to set russ up for a presidential run in 8 years, let's leave him in the senate where he does a wonderful job.

Yeah, a fine job delivering one of the worst assaults on free speech since the Fairness Doctrine and the Alien and Sedition Acts. Who was the other guy responsible for that? Oh, yeah, John McCain. That's just great. Oh, happy day.

money isn't speech, no matter how much you want it to be. free speech means no one can stop you from expressing your opinion, which you can do even if you aren't allowed to spend a dime. if political influence is restricted to those with the most money, then congratulations, you are now more or less a serf.

and feingold helped lead the charge against FISA two times now.

but it's amusing to me that he is related to obama in TFA, so you have to come out against him with the fire reserved only for things related to obama.

Feingold would be an excellent choice. It might make up for Obama's lack of cajones on the FISA thing too.

Yeah, Feingold is doing quite well in the Senate, and that would force the Democrats to find someone else for his seat. Even though he'd be a good choice, I'd rather him stay in the Senate. Hell, put him in charge of the Senate.

Obama/Feingold?

Feingold? Yes. That would be awesome.

While this choice would make me very happy, I have a suspicion that there is a reason he didn't run for president.

Something along the lines of embarrassing details from his divorce or something like that. I remember some questions asked of him at the time and he seemed to be hinting (to my not always trustworthy memory) that he'd rather just avoid the scrutiny, thank you.

When asking yourself "Why Feingold?", remember this.
When the vote for the Patriot Act came about, in the senate, the vote was 99-1 for.
The 1?
Feingold.

That'd be cool.

PATRIOT Act (Senate):

YEAs ---98

NAYs ---1 - Feingold (D-WI)

Lionel Mandrake: That'd be cool.

PATRIOT Act (Senate):

YEAs ---98

NAYs ---1 - Feingold (D-WI)

Yep. Russ actually reads the bills beforehand.

I'd back Feingold just for having the balls to tell everybody to go fark themselves on the PATRIOT Act.

However, until there's a pick, I'm sticking with my pick - Obama/Schweitzer 2008.

SilentStrider: When asking yourself "Why Feingold?", remember this.
When the vote for the Patriot Act came about, in the senate, the vote was 99-1 for.
The 1?
Feingold.

Also voted against the Iraq War. I approve.

Skleenar: While this choice would make me very happy, I have a suspicion that there is a reason he didn't run for president.

Something along the lines of embarrassing details from his divorce or something like that. I remember some questions asked of him at the time and he seemed to be hinting (to my not always trustworthy memory) that he'd rather just avoid the scrutiny, thank you.

pretty much

But Feingold said waging an underdog campaign appealed to him. What didn't appeal to him, he said, was "the way in which this effort would dismantle both my professional life (in the Senate) and my personal life. I'm very happy right now."

Megain: Skleenar: While this choice would make me very happy, I have a suspicion that there is a reason he didn't run for president.

Something along the lines of embarrassing details from his divorce or something like that. I remember some questions asked of him at the time and he seemed to be hinting (to my not always trustworthy memory) that he'd rather just avoid the scrutiny, thank you.

pretty muchBut Feingold said waging an underdog campaign appealed to him. What didn't appeal to him, he said, was "the way in which this effort would dismantle both my professional life (in the Senate) and my personal life. I'm very happy right now."

He was divorced a second time in mid-2005. He is unmarried now. These things are apparently more important than actually standing up for the Constitution to some people for some reason.

Lionel Mandrake: He was divorced a second time in mid-2005. He is unmarried now. These things are apparently more important than actually standing up for the Constitution to some people for some reason.

Yea Christians!

The divorce comment is mentioned on Wiki... He said that running for president would detract from his focus on the Senate, and the likely prying into his recent divorce "would dismantle both my professional life (in the Senate) and my personal life."[1] (new window)

/Personally, if the Republicans want to dredged up information about his divorce... Two can play that game... And McCain will lose...

This is BS. This is my Senator whom I have a man crush on. In a million years Obama will not pick him. Gee, let's just give the righties a BIGGER reason to use that word, commie...

Russ Feingold assuming the powers of Dick Cheney?

Sweet.

Good God, this would be a special kind of cool.

They both smoke!

pdeals 2008-08-07 09:19:51 PM
"9% approval rating. "Wonderful" job?"

Hey, retard, overall Senate or Congressional approval means nothing. If you want it to mean something you would have to do it individually among the constituents of individual reps. Otherwise it means absolutely nothing. What was the approval rating of Congress before the last election? And what was the % of incumbents winning? Not 9%.

I love Feingold but I don't think he'd help the ticket, probably couldn't win the presidency, and would be better as a Senator than a VP.

BlueDjinn: pdeals--that 9% is for Congress AS A WHOLE, not for individual Reps or Senators. There's 535 of them in all. Many individual members of Congress--say, for instance, the ones who have consistently voted against the Bush admin, like Feingold--have far higher approval ratings. Feingold even managed to win reelection in 2004 by 8 points.

As for Feingold as Veep overall--I'd be deliriously happy, but also sad since, as burntdan noted, he'd no longer be in the Senate.

yep

Well...Feingold would solidify Obama's hard left base.

I like cheese
/Menomonie

Neurochemist: The divorce comment is mentioned on Wiki... He said that running for president would detract from his focus on the Senate, and the likely prying into his recent divorce "would dismantle both my professional life (in the Senate) and my personal life."[1] (new window)

/Personally, if the Republicans want to dredged up information about his divorce... Two can play that game... And McCain will lose...

But, you forget, only the Republicans are allowed to be nasty about peoples personal lives. If democrats do it, it's unfair, dirty, dishonorable and picking on a poor old man. If Republicans do it, hey, that's just the game, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen, if you don't want to win, don't play.

helix400: Well...Feingold would solidify Obama's hard left base.

So...helix, which one is further left?

Ericfoos: I like cheese
/Menomonie

A norderner? Yah, hey der :) Kidding. Wisconsin isn't Fargo as much as comedians would like it to be.

Sabyen91: Ericfoos: I like cheese
/Menomonie

A norderner? Yah, hey der :) Kidding. Wisconsin isn't Fargo as much as comedians would like it to be.

Yah, we're educated by the Stout there.

Ericfoos: Sabyen91: Ericfoos: I like cheese
/Menomonie

A norderner? Yah, hey der :) Kidding. Wisconsin isn't Fargo as much as comedians would like it to be.

Yah, we're educated by the Stout there.

Ooooo, don't say that. I want to defend the WHOLE state.

nah, he hasn't done anything noteworthy in years.
(beside continue to prove, along with Kucinich, that there are exceptions to every rule- in this case, the rule that politicians suck)

helix400: Well...Feingold would solidify Obama's hard left base.

In all fairness who don't you classify as hard left?

RanDomino: nah, he hasn't done anything noteworthy in years.
(beside continue to prove, along with Kucinich, that there are exceptions to every rule- in this case, the rule that politicians suck)

Did you just say Feingold hasn't done anything in years (is that the guy you were talking about?) If so, you are an idiot.

SilentStrider: When asking yourself "Why Feingold?", remember this.
When the vote for the Patriot Act came about, in the senate, the vote was 99-1 for.
The 1?
Feingold.

Gentlemen: We have our next Vice President.

MPAVictoria: helix400: Well...Feingold would solidify Obama's hard left base.

In all fairness who don't you classify as hard left?

Tom Delay!!!

funmonger: SilentStrider: When asking yourself "Why Feingold?", remember this.
When the vote for the Patriot Act came about, in the senate, the vote was 99-1 for.
The 1?
Feingold.

Gentlemen: We have our next Vice President.

I wish. I would have to vote for new Senator but I would be ok with it.

I love feingold, but he would alienate the independents and disillusioned republicans that Obama needs to win

I also think he should stay in the senate because VP under Obama would be kind of a do-nothing post. The only reason Cheney had power was due to W's apathy.

Sabyen91: RanDomino: nah, he hasn't done anything noteworthy in years.
(beside continue to prove, along with Kucinich, that there are exceptions to every rule- in this case, the rule that politicians suck)

Did you just say Feingold hasn't done anything in years (is that the guy you were talking about?) If so, you are an idiot.

I think he means that Feingold has not been on the winning side of an issue in years. Which actually may be correct. Doesn't mean he was wrong to be on the losing side. Heck, I think it makes him a patriot, but he still hasn't managed to win many battles lately.

/would love to see Obama/Feingold

Sabyen91: MPAVictoria: helix400: Well...Feingold would solidify Obama's hard left base.

In all fairness who don't you classify as hard left?

Tom Delay!!!

Bah, dirty pinko!

No idea why I hadn't thought of this before. I assumed the Bayh speculation was a smokescreen for an announcement of Sebelius. But this makes so much more sense. And yea it would make me deliriously happy.

/subby

So if he's picked, how would the new senator be selected? Governor? Are they R or D?

Sabyen91: So...helix, which one is further left?

Personally, I'd say Feingold. I admire the guy because he's independent enough to follow what he thinks is right. Usually that puts him further left than most Democrats.

I'm looking for some Senate liberal/conservative rankings right now. First one I ran across put Feingold as most liberal.

Plus, I found a handy graphic that's perfect for flamewar purposes. The graphic on it's own is a bit vague looking. And it almost looks like it was drawn with MS Paint. Which means it's perfect for Fark political threads.

Sabyen91
Did you just say Feingold hasn't done anything in years (is that the guy you were talking about?) If so, you are an idiot.

He was in the news all the time until 2006-ish.

MPAVictoria: Sabyen91: RanDomino: nah, he hasn't done anything noteworthy in years.
(beside continue to prove, along with Kucinich, that there are exceptions to every rule- in this case, the rule that politicians suck)

Did you just say Feingold hasn't done anything in years (is that the guy you were talking about?) If so, you are an idiot.

I think he means that Feingold has not been on the winning side of an issue in years. Which actually may be correct. Doesn't mean he was wrong to be on the losing side. Heck, I think it makes him a patriot, but he still hasn't managed to win many battles lately.

/would love to see Obama/Feingold

Yeah, he is on the losing side a lot. He is always right in the end. The man has steelies. He is the ONLY Senator to read the Patriot Act in the meager time allowed as the Rethugs tried to shove it through Congress. And he is the only one to vote against it. Telling.

johne3819: So if he's picked, how would the new senator be selected? Governor? Are they R or D?

Hell no. Our governor is a massive tool.

Opiate of the Lasses: No idea why I hadn't thought of this before. I assumed the Bayh speculation was a smokescreen for an announcement of Sebelius. But this makes so much more sense. And yea it would make me deliriously happy.

/subby

Opiate, I doubt the VP will be a woman or a liberal. I think it will be a Tim Kaine type.