Just as I started reading this, "999,999" from The Slip came up on my iPod. I immediately turned the switch to sequential play.

/I jump from every rooftop
//So high so far to fall
///I feel a million miles away
////I don't feel anything at all

Jacking off in graveyards is a great to build respect for yourself.

I don't care much for Trent's music, but he sounds like a pretty cool guy to hang out with.

/love the idea of putting tix on Axl's lawn

dstanley: I don't care much for Trent's music, but he sounds like a pretty cool guy to hang out with.

/love the idea of putting tix on Axl's lawn

This.

Is that the guy that did that terrible cover of Johnny Cash's "Hurt"?

You let me violate you. You let me desecrate you. You let me penetrate you. You let me complicate you.

/mm-hmm.

Dear god, if I could have babies, let them be Trent's. Would be worth every dollar of therapy.
/totally can't have babies

Solid State Vittles: Is that the guy that did that terrible cover of Johnny Cash's "Hurt"?

Uhhhhh... it was the other way around.

Solid State Vittles: Is that the guy that did that terrible cover of Johnny Cash's "Hurt"?

I see what you did there...

bikerdiva: Dear god, if I could have babies, let them be Trent's. Would be worth every dollar of therapy.
/totally can't have babies

:( sorry you can't have babies..but...
I am right there with you regarding Trent
Nothing hotter than Trent in a pair of tight leather pants... and a black laced shirt
droooolll....

/March of the Pigs Video
/would fark him to no end!

As a fan that is going to see him/them later this month, I must say I haven't enjoyed anything they've released since he's went off drugs. Ghosts was ok, his other albums kind of suck donkey balls. IMO

i love NIN but the slip is godawful garbage. too bad he couldnt release something good for free. i at least got one cds worth of ok stuff from the 5 bucks i spent on all the ghosts.

Saw NIN on the With Teeth tour, which was awesome, wish I could see them this time around. One of the best live shows I've seen.

For those interested here is a quicktime file of Reznor and Peter Murphy doing Reptile (pops)

He's 43, but still writes lyrics like a 17 year old goth boy who can't get a girl to touch his penis.

If you want to create your own NIN lyric, it's easy. Just fill stanzas with nothingness, empty, erase, etc. like so.

Peel away my layers of nothingness
I'm empty on the inside
There you'll find the void
Erase that part of me

InmanRoshi: He's 43, but still writes lyrics like a 17 year old goth boy who can't get a girl to touch his penis.

If you want to create your own NIN lyric, it's easy. Just fill stanzas with nothingness, empty, erase, etc. like so.

Peel away my layers of nothingness
I'm empty on the inside
There you'll find the void
Erase that part of me

Yes, but by being attractive and singing these lyrics in a fairly decent voice to a catchy tune, he will get many, many women to want to touch his penis.

And at this point he could sing about a rotten avocado and still do well.

InmanRoshi: He's 43, but still writes lyrics like a 17 year old goth boy who can't get a girl to touch his penis.

I'll touch it.

/I'll touch it two times.

catatonicsrus: As a fan that is going to see him/them later this month, I must say I haven't enjoyed anything they've released since he's went off drugs. Ghosts was ok, his other albums kind of suck donkey balls. IMO

Boy, sounds like you'll really enjoy the show.

/seeing NIN September 3
//can't farking wait

InmanRoshi: He's 43, but still writes lyrics like a 17 year old goth boy who can't get a girl to touch his penis.

If you want to create your own NIN lyric, it's easy. Just fill stanzas with nothingness, empty, erase, etc. like so.

Peel away my layers of nothingness
I'm empty on the inside
There you'll find the void
Erase that part of me

Looks like you stopped listening to NIN since The Fragile.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

InmanRoshi

Not so much really. He mostly stoped writing like after The Fragile, which was three albums ago. But you're spot on with his back catalogue.

/Where is everybody with the Skinny Puppy comments?

InmanRoshi: He's 43, but still writes lyrics like a 17 year old goth boy who can't get a girl to touch his penis.

If you want to create your own NIN lyric, it's easy. Just fill stanzas with nothingness, empty, erase, etc. like so.

Peel away my layers of nothingness pants
I'm empty naked on the inside
There you'll find the void my weener
Erase touch that part of me

/fixed it for Sarcastica et al. and anyone else who wants to touch Trent's weener

Bot v2.38beta: InmanRoshi

Not so much really. He mostly stoped writing like after The Fragile, which was three albums ago. But you're spot on with his back catalogue.

/Where is everybody with the Skinny Puppy comments?

Four albums.

Let's see how Year Zero II pans out.

With Teeth was disappointing, but the rest of sober Trent's work has been great, I just can't stop listening to The Slip.

Haha, 43? He is older than Brett Favre! Retire, Trent, retire before you hurt yourself and your legacy!

GimpyNip: Haha, 43? He is older than Brett Favre! Retire, Trent, retire before you hurt yourself and your legacy!

He's lookin' a HELL of a lot better than Favre.

/would hit

Bot v2.38beta: /Where is everybody with the Skinny Puppy comments?

trying to rationalize TGWOTR and whatever hell else they've released since reforming.


Year Zero was definitely Trent's most consistent album since The Downward Spiral. The Fragile was good, but unfocused. W_T was under-rated, but not really worth a five year wait as it sounded like Fragile left-overs.

Year Zero grows on me more each time I hear it. All those nutty computer noise sound effects are arranged so magnificently.

Bot v2.38beta: Saw NIN on the With Teeth tour, which was awesome, wish I could see them this time around. One of the best live shows I've seen.

For those interested here is a quicktime file of Reznor and Peter Murphy doing Reptile (pops)

Reptile is all very well and good but oh my farking god they cover a bit of "Haunted When the Minutes Drag"!!!

I don't care that he still writes like a teenager. The music sounds so good that the lyrics could be vicious personal insults against me and my loved ones and I'd still sing along.

/Favorite song: The Perfect Drug

Anyone notice the date of that article, August 21st, 2008 ...

/saw them in YYC last week
//Pictures Link (new window)

elev8meL8r: InmanRoshi: He's 43, but still writes lyrics like a 17 year old goth boy who can't get a girl to touch his penis.

If you want to create your own NIN lyric, it's easy. Just fill stanzas with nothingness, empty, erase, etc. like so.

Peel away my layers of nothingness pants
I'm empty naked on the inside
There you'll find the void my weener
Erase touch that part of me

/fixed it for Sarcastica et al. and anyone else who wants to touch Trent's weener

haha! I almost fell off my chair! Nice!

i saw pigface, and they did suck live


Ogre, durring the thousand lies part at the end...said, and i quote..

"a thousand things that i could be, a thousand trent reznors who look just like me!"


haha still like NIN tho..gotta give it where its due. No stays in the game this long with out talent!

Solid State Vittles: Is that the guy that did that terrible cover of Johnny Cash's "Hurt"?

I LOL'd :D

Southern Atheist: With Teeth was disappointing, but the rest of sober Trent's work has been great, I just can't stop listening to The Slip.

Is that what changed? The albums just don't seem as dense since the fragile. Yes, the themes are nicer instead of "emo emo death death", but he's lost that hyper-layered sound that obviously was way, way more work (notice the frequency of releases has also gone up).

And as working stiffs, I think we can all appreciate "Every Day Is Exactly The Same" way better than a 17-year-old could.

And nobody has yet mentioned the fact that Reznor has pretty much completely modeled himself after one Kevin Ogilvie, who is quite possibly the most badass performer in the known world?

/likes NIN but let's give credit where it's due

I think since The Fragile he has slipped, the Ghosts was really good but no album has been as solid. The sound is weak, the layering is so shallow and hollow, it sounds like an 8th grader did it. Themes and sounds are not completed and sound rushed.

Trent needs to get the old gang back together and start writing quality beats again. He should of never let Charlie Clouser or Danny Lohner go, they provided a lot of solid sound.

elev8meL8r: InmanRoshi: He's 43, but still writes lyrics like a 17 year old goth boy who can't get a girl to touch his penis.

If you want to create your own NIN lyric, it's easy. Just fill stanzas with nothingness, empty, erase, etc. like so.

Peel away my layers of nothingness pants
I'm empty naked on the inside
There you'll find the void my weener
Erase touch that part of me

/fixed it for Sarcastica et al. and anyone else who wants to touch Trent's weener

Isn't that the new 50 cent song?

I like how Reznor portrays himself as this bastion of hope for music when all it really is is some kind of back hand marketing scheme. First he says music should be for free, then that back fires, now he's giving us lucky customer's "options." Seems to me he bit the hand that fed him, and now he's crawling back; if only he could adhere to his own advice.

/He's still written some great songs
//It's just that I wish he'd get off his high horse and quit telling us how we should be consumers; no different than the music biz suits.

skinny puppy fan here. actually, SP is at the top of my list.

i understand now that the reason i like NIN so much is BECAUSE of SP. despite their differences, it's almost like two for the price of one.

....yeah, okay. that's all.

/new skinny puppy in 2009!

bthemonarch: I like how Reznor portrays himself as this bastion of hope for music when all it really is is some kind of back hand marketing scheme. First he says music should be for free, then that back fires, now he's giving us lucky customer's "options." Seems to me he bit the hand that fed him, and now he's crawling back; if only he could adhere to his own advice.

/He's still written some great songs
//It's just that I wish he'd get off his high horse and quit telling us how we should be consumers; no different than the music biz suits.

Yeah, call me when a "music biz suit" charges five bucks for two CDs worth of music, then gives away the entire next album for free. If Reznor was signed to a major label, Ghosts would never have been released. An instrumental album from him wouldn't be considered "commercially satisfactory". The Slip was recorded, mixed, and mastered in under a week. Chances are that were it presented to a label like Interscope, the "music biz suits" would have freaked the fark out and shelved it as not being "technically satisfactory".

And he's not forcing anyone to pay anything. The stuff one would pay for is the esoteric audiophile/collector stuff like vinyl, high-end audio, multitracks, etc. The people who like that are more than happy to pay for it. The "options" are just that. You can get the music, legally, for free. "Music biz suits" have never and will never do that.

Galaxy of Prawns: And he's not forcing anyone to pay anything. The stuff one would pay for is the esoteric audiophile/collector stuff like vinyl, high-end audio, multitracks, etc. The people who like that are more than happy to pay for it. The "options" are just that. You can get the music, legally, for free. "Music biz suits" have never and will never do that.

i dig that, but what is the point when youre giving away stuff thats as terrible as 'the slip' is?

Pxtl: Southern Atheist: With Teeth was disappointing, but the rest of sober Trent's work has been great, I just can't stop listening to The Slip.

Is that what changed? The albums just don't seem as dense since the fragile. Yes, the themes are nicer instead of "emo emo death death", but he's lost that hyper-layered sound that obviously was way, way more work (notice the frequency of releases has also gone up).

And as working stiffs, I think we can all appreciate "Every Day Is Exactly The Same" way better than a 17-year-old could.

No, the reason the production changed dramatically after the Fragile is the loss of Charlie Clouser, who's forte is an insane amount of layered noises. Clouser is a farking madman.

Trent's production is pristine, but it has never been the same without Charlie layering away to create that sound that D.S. and Fragile had.

Millzners: Pxtl: Southern Atheist: With Teeth was disappointing, but the rest of sober Trent's work has been great, I just can't stop listening to The Slip.

...
No, the reason the production changed dramatically after the Fragile is the loss of Charlie Clouser, who's forte is an insane amount of layered noises. Clouser is a farking madman...

Trent's production is pristine, but it has never been the same without Charlie layering away to create that sound that D.S. and Fragile had.

I'll second this. Trent is meticulous and exacting in his production work and now you're seeing more of that. Charlie Clouser was the one who brought on the complex layering and depth. Just listen to Clouser's remixes of other artist's work... You'll hear the Clouser'esque depth that's lacking in recent NIN stuff. Also, I think Trent did well letting Keith Hillebrandt, Jim Thirlwell and Clint Mansell tinker with his stuff. Jam a little Alan Moulder, Flood, and even Mister -two-hours-of-humming-power-transformers-and-cats-scratching-screen-doors (Coil) and you've got the gods of production in one place.

/ Ok, invite Amon Tobin, Kevin Martin, Justin Broadrick (Techno animal) and the dorks from Plaid too.

Galaxy of Prawns:
/Favorite song: The Perfect Drug

GTFO

Fecacacophany: Justin Broadrick (Techno animal)

Godflesh! Jesu!

/probably make more sense for those not in the know.


and for those biatching about the production on the past few releases not being as "thick", I think you're missing the point. The past few releases have sounded a lot more rougher, but they also sounded a lot less overproduced and sound more created-on-the-spot. Subtract a few a tracks from Year Zero and it's easily as good as NIN at their/his best.

I for one would like to join the succession of ladies and dudes offering to touch Trent's penis.

Saw them in Seattle on the 26th. Just awesome.

FreeLoveFreeway: Galaxy of Prawns:
/Favorite song: The Perfect Drug

GTFO

NO U. I know Trent's gone on record as saying it's his least favorite, but I'm not about to let an artist's opinion on a song affect my enjoyment of it.

/plays insane drum solo

Galaxy of Prawns

I trust you have the Perfect Drug EP wth the five remixes of it? The orginal is great but I like the 6m 59s(Plug) remix even more.

NIN's open remix website (pops) has a lot of cool stuff on it like instrumental versions of Downward Spiral and Year Zero.

Bot v2.38beta: Saw NIN on the With Teeth tour, which was awesome, wish I could see them this time around. One of the best live shows I've seen.

For those interested here is a quicktime file of Reznor and Peter Murphy doing Reptile (pops)

downloaded all of those radio sessions on usenet -- freakin' sweet.

Southern Atheist: With Teeth was disappointing, but the rest of sober Trent's work has been great, I just can't stop listening to The Slip.


Agreed. I found With Teeth to be a lackluster, completely average record save for a few standout tracks.

Year Zero, on the other hand, was a masterpiece and might be the best work he's ever done. Ghosts and The Slip were both solid pieces of work, too.

I was on board with NIN very early on, but dropped off when The Downward Spiral exploded into popularity. I can't even listen to Closer anymore.

I think NIN is better now than "they've" ever been.

down4afall: elev8meL8r: InmanRoshi: He's 43, but still writes lyrics like a 17 year old goth boy who can't get a girl to touch his penis.

If you want to create your own NIN lyric, it's easy. Just fill stanzas with nothingness, empty, erase, etc. like so.

Peel away my layers of nothingness pants
I'm empty naked on the inside
There you'll find the void my weener
Erase touch that part of me

/fixed it for Sarcastica et al. and anyone else who wants to touch Trent's weener

Isn't that the new 50 cent song?

Yeah, that sounds about right.