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(AP) Dumbass John McCain to discuss potential job losses in Ohio--which were brought about through the assistance of his own campaign manager   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 41
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BooBoo23 [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 12:03:24 PM  
"At the time of the merger, no one anticipated an impact on jobs in Wilmington," Rogers said.

Well duh- no one could have possibly anticipated that a merger would impact jobs...

 
keiverarrow [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 12:04:35 PM  
"At the time of the merger, no one anticipated an impact on jobs in Wilmington," Rogers said."

That qoute caught my eye too. The Republicans seem to have a real knack for not anticipating things that should be obvious

 
ZachF81 2008-08-07 12:05:11 PM  
The DHL - Airborne Express merger was a good thing, because otherwise the airport in Ohio would have closed awhile ago, because Airborne Express was likely to not be able to compete with the likes of DHL, UPS, and the USPS.

His campaign manager was right to support the merger, because it saved many jobs in the small town the airport is located in, as DHL continued to use it for 5 years. Now, DHL is attempting to re-structure and close the airport (I have a feeling the 8000 jobs lost is a bit of an overstatement, it's not a very big place).

Really, it's all DHL's business. Maybe, they will feel that they owe the campaign manager a favor, and not close this place, because I'm sure McCain, through his manager, will ask that they think it over a bit. I hope they don't close it, but it is their business, and like I said, DHL saved all those jobs by merging with Airborne Express years ago.

 
madmann [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 12:10:49 PM  
I predict McCain will be greeted as a liberator, by crowds throwing flowers. Or maybe hookers & blow.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 12:23:43 PM  
I predict he won't mention this, and this story will get no mainstream media attention.

 
The Onanist [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 12:30:48 PM  
ZachF81: His campaign manager was right to support the merger...

FTFA: "At the time of the merger, no one anticipated an impact on jobs in Wilmington," Rogers said.

You'd think he'd anticipate certain ramifications of his actions.

/Don't make me key your truck again.

 
filth [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 12:34:31 PM  
They were bound to lose those jobs anyway. We're talking about Ohio here.

 
Skleenar 2008-08-07 01:17:39 PM  

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 01:20:31 PM  
The Onanist: ZachF81: His campaign manager was right to support the merger...

FTFA: "At the time of the merger, no one anticipated an impact on jobs in Wilmington," Rogers said.

You'd think he'd anticipate certain ramifications of his actions.

/Don't make me key your truck again.


What in the hell do people think happen when businesses merge? Someone's going to lose their job because you don't need two of everything. If the merger did indeed keep those jobs around for another 5 years, well that was 5 years to get your affairs in order and find another job someplace else.

People need to learn to see the writing on the wall. Get out early before you are competing with all the other people who were silly enough to stuck around at the company.

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 01:23:17 PM  
Skleenar: McCain to paint Obama as a 'job killing machine'

Ironic.


If it's not a job that requires you to physically be in America to do no job is safe anymore. Even then you may be competing with immigrants who will take the job for a much lower wage.

Want a secure job in this country I suggest going into health care (nurse, doctor, shrink), something with old people, owning a bar, or learn to cut hair.

 
antidisestablishmentarianism 2008-08-07 01:29:50 PM  
Gwendolyn: People need to learn to see the writing on the wall. Get out early before you are competing with all the other people who were silly enough to stuck around at the company

500 people in Kimberly lost jobs when the papermill shut down after it was bought out less than a year ago. They were in the paper industry which has been quietly going downhill for sometime now, but some people are blaming the unions for the plant closing.

 
Procedural Texture [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-08-07 01:34:03 PM  
The job losses aren't the story here.

The fact that McCain's manager is/was just another corporate lobbyist is the point.

It tells you what the priorities of a McCain administration will be, because these are the kind of people he keeps as his lieutenants.

 
ZachF81 2008-08-07 01:53:01 PM  
The Onanist: ZachF81: His campaign manager was right to support the merger...

FTFA: "At the time of the merger, no one anticipated an impact on jobs in Wilmington," Rogers said.

You'd think he'd anticipate certain ramifications of his actions.

/Don't make me key your truck again.


It's tough to anticipate that this would (potentially) happen. DHL needed, and still needs, the hub in Wilmington. For whatever reason, they're going to actually use their competitor to ship their packages, via UPS's huge hub in Louisville.

The Wilmington hub is where Cincinnati bound pacakges go, Wilmington is just slightly closer to Cincinnati than Louisville is. Why they're going to close their own hub and use another companies is beyong me, but it doesn't seem to me that the merger directly caused it.

 
Ed Finnerty 2008-08-07 02:08:27 PM  
I'm sure this will be explained thoroughly and logically on the Straightalk Express.

Right?

 
BooBoo23 [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 02:27:04 PM  
Procedural Texture: The fact that McCain's manager is/was just another corporate lobbyist is the point.

Meh, non-story. I mean he asked his campaign staff to disclose all previous lobbying ties and make certain they were no longer registered as lobbyists or foreign agents.

Isn't that good enough for you? After all, lobbyists write a significant portion of legislation, and they're usually better informed than their elected counterparts. I'd actually feel better if kept their registrations, just so we'd know where the elements of expertise are in the McCain campaign.

 
meanyogurt [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 03:21:10 PM  
Unions and 35% corporate tax rate are McCains fault?

 
Shaggy_C 2008-08-07 03:21:57 PM  
Ed Finnerty: I'm sure this will be explained thoroughly and logically on the Straightalk Express.

Right?


Rah rah personal responsibility

 
Lackofname 2008-08-07 03:22:06 PM  
They Took our Jaerbs! Wait, they're republicans? Nevermind.

 
mb7015a 2008-08-07 03:22:42 PM  
Hey, I used to work at Airborne before it was bought out, getting a kick...

The only way to save the jobs is to allow DHL to outright own ABX and ILN. ABX is just a contracting company, so for DHL, there's no real difference between ABX and UPS, unless you want to bring in a corporate sense of duty.

There are federal laws against foreign companies owning domestic airlines, change that law, and maintaining the Wilmington hub becomes a heck of a lot more attractive to DHL.

The loss of 8000 jobs doesn't surprise me, I lived 20 miles away and a significant amount of people in my hometown work there still. It may not amount to 8000 jobs if you consider a job 40 hours a week, as a lot of the jobs are part time.

 
LocalCynic 2008-08-07 03:23:09 PM  
So, when is anyone going to mention John McCain's plan to levy payroll taxes on employees who receive employer-provided health care?

 
Lando Lincoln [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 03:24:26 PM  
FTA: "LIMA, Ohio (AP) -- Republican presidential candidate John McCain is accusing his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, of wanting to forfeit the war in Iraq in spite of gains there."

"We'll win it [the Iraq War] the right way, and that's by winning it!"
- John McCain, Aug 5, 2008

Hmmmm. That's an intriguing battle plan. They cannot possibly lose, since "win" is right there in the plan itself. Ingenious.

"As part of his campaign swing in Ohio, McCain was meeting with people who would be affected by the loss of a shipping site, a possible outcome of a deal his campaign merger helped to facilitate. Shutting down the site could cost 8,000 jobs."

Good God. They really are trying to throw the election, but the people just won't let them lose. This is like the electoral version of The Producers.

 
Corvus 2008-08-07 03:28:26 PM  
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Stop your damn whining!!!

 
MacEnvy [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 03:29:53 PM  
Lando Lincoln: This is like the electoral version of The Producers.

I'm so stealing that.

 
Corvus 2008-08-07 03:31:03 PM  
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It's OK McCain's new economic adviser will fix everything!!

 
bubbaprog [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-08-07 03:31:11 PM  
meanyogurt: Unions and 35% corporate tax rate are McCains fault?

We have the weakest unions and the lowest corporate tax rates of any Western country. Yet, amazingly, their economies thrive while ours is mired. Perhaps the fact they're not pouring trillions of their national revenue into a hole in a desert helps with that.

 
Spreadhead 2008-08-07 03:31:19 PM  
McCain's such a maverick he's going to Ohio to taunt the people about to lose their jobs that he's the reason for it. Dude's got stones.

Or maybe he's dementing.

 
depmode98 2008-08-07 03:31:57 PM  
FTFA:

"John McCain, who has contended that Barack Obama is willing to lose in Iraq to win the election"

Considering the fact that the US is about to close a deal with Iraq saying that all combat troops will be out by 2010, this talking point becomes less valid, Obama won't have to pull the troops out of Iraq considering Bush will already set that in motion before Obama can get elected.

So if any of you Republicans still feel that pulling the troops out of Iraq is tantamount to admitting defeat, please send your complains to the White House.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26074685 Link (new window)

 
GoRedSoxGo 2008-08-07 03:32:55 PM  
Lando Lincoln: "We'll win it [the Iraq War] the right way, and that's by winning it!"
- John McCain, Aug 5, 2008

Hmmmm. That's an intriguing battle plan. They cannot possibly lose, since "win" is right there in the plan itself. Ingenious.


"Of course he was playing the race card! Because of what he said!"

/don't feel like going to get the actual quote

 
rppp01a 2008-08-07 03:39:17 PM  
You may be surprised to know that in 1987 and 1988, McCain voted against federal legislation reforming the campaign finance system. It was only in 1990, in the aftermath of Keating and the shadow of an upcoming re-election campaign, that he started supporting reform. Ditto for his efforts to cut government spending.


http://phoenixnewtimes.com/2008-08-07/news/postmodern-mccain-the-john-mccain-som e-arizonans-know-and-loathe/2

 
Lawnchair 2008-08-07 03:46:02 PM  
Why don't we apply the SURGE! strategy here? I'm sure, if we just load up some C-130s with pallets of cash, and pay off the CEOs, the rate of layoffs would slow down substantially. Perhaps not stop, exactly, but slow down to an acceptable number.

 
5_second_rule 2008-08-07 03:48:04 PM  
Mccain has to be throwning the election right. All he has to do is say he's a lifelong Steelers fan and say Pete Rose should never be in the Hall Of Fame.

//truck driver is a safe job too

 
Corvus 2008-08-07 03:53:52 PM  
5_second_rule: Mccain has to be throwning the election right. All he has to do is say he's a lifelong Steelers fan and say Pete Rose should never be in the Hall Of Fame.

No the news stations well then just edit it out for him.

CBS Edits McCain's Whopper Out of Broadcast (w/original video) (new window)

 
BilltheThrill 2008-08-07 03:57:40 PM  
I just hope McCain stays out of some of those Obama neighborhoods in Ohio. I hear things can get pretty rough out there. A bunch of young punks with keys who aren't afraid to use them.

 
Spreadhead 2008-08-07 04:00:58 PM  
BilltheThrill: I just hope McCain stays out of some of those Obama neighborhoods in Ohio. I hear things can get pretty rough out there. A bunch of young punks with keys who aren't afraid to use them.


They're scawy, so vewy scawy.

 
All2morrowsparTs 2008-08-07 04:04:56 PM  
Corvus: It's OK McCain's new economic adviser will fix everything!!

Every time Carly talks in favor of McCain another HP employee gives Obamama a vote.

 
Lando Lincoln [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 04:07:19 PM  
GoRedSoxGo: "Of course he was playing the race card! Because of what he said!"

/don't feel like going to get the actual quote


I wish you would, since I have no idea what you're talking about.

 
kuhns_m 2008-08-07 04:18:04 PM  
Somehow, I am not surprised McCain, the candidate of CEOs, is involved with laying off people.

Corporate shill

 
BojanglesPaladin 2008-08-07 05:25:41 PM  
I've been trying to figure out how criticizing McCain because a guy in his campaign once did some work for a company that years later is making a business decision that will cost jobs...

Is different from criticizing Obama for his associations such as Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, or even Mr. Fanny Mae.

Does this mean I'm a racist?

 
Cinaed 2008-08-07 06:07:56 PM  
I thought Ohio had managed to kill it's own jobs LONG before Obama came on to the scene.

 
meanyogurt [TotalFark] 2008-08-07 07:35:57 PM  
bubbaprog

We have the weakest unions and the lowest corporate tax rates of any Western country. Yet, amazingly, their economies thrive while ours is mired. Perhaps the fact they're not pouring trillions of their national revenue into a hole in a desert helps with that.

Reality begs to differ. We have the 2nd highest corporate rate in the world and 24 states have a higher rate than top ranked Japan.

Source: http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/22917.html

 
Procedural Texture [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-08-08 03:16:26 PM  
BooBoo23: I mean he asked his campaign staff to disclose all previous lobbying ties [...]
Isn't that good enough for you?


I will grant that this disclosure policy is a good one and can be used as evidence of some positive political ethics being present in McCain's campaign.
That the disclosures reveal strong ties to corporate interests remains evidence for concern, however.

 
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