I think I speak for everyone here when I say *facepalm*

Great, now thisis one less reason for the Clinton dead enders to whine about.

/You really think he wasn't going to?

President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho Obama.JOIN THE OBAMA 08 MOVEMENT! OBAMA WILL SAVE AMERICA................FARK YEA!!!

I think he is playing with fire, the Clinton machine is not totally dead.

Ha ha. I can hear the PUMA heads spinning from here.

SeismicJizzer: Great, now thisis one less reason for the Clinton dead enders to whine about.

/You really think he wasn't going to?

I imagine that's what he's going after here. He didn't want MI or FL to affect the nomination process, but he is in favor of symbolic representation.

AbsolutTBomb's alt: Ha ha. I can hear the PUMA heads spinning from here.

You mean the 50 John McCain supporters pretending to be former Clinton supporters?

Are Democrats stupid enough to think such a meaningless gesture means anything? If I was a Floridian or Michigander who felt disenfranchised despite breaking the rules, would I suddenly feel good now?

Someone's cookin' up some chocolate cheesecake.

Oh, please seat them. I can't wait to see the Hildabeest's reaction and the subsequent resurgence of her campaign.

I'm still not ruling her out, since she never formally conceded.

I suffer from electile dysfunction. None of the 2008 candidates arouse me.

BiffDangler: Are Democrats stupid enough to think such a meaningless gesture means anything? If I was a Floridian or Michigander who felt disenfranchised despite breaking the rules, would I suddenly feel good now?

They should blame the representatives from their states. These asshates are the ones who created this mess.

IRONIC MINIMALIST: SeismicJizzer: Great, now thisis one less reason for the Clinton dead enders to whine about.

/You really think he wasn't going to?

I imagine that's what he's going after here. He didn't want MI or FL to affect the nomination process, but he is in favor of symbolic representation.

I agree

Hooray, this again!

BiffDangler: Are Democrats stupid enough to think such a meaningless gesture means anything? If I was a Floridian or Michigander who felt disenfranchised despite breaking the rules, would I suddenly feel good now?

He knows that these two states blame him for their votes not counting. He thinks he can be the good guy by flip-flopping on the issue...once again.

Symbolic gesture indeed.

If Hillary was to say it was time for the adults to come back in so we could win, and restart her campaign, he would quickly change his mind on this idea.

BiffDangler: Are Democrats stupid enough to think such a meaningless gesture means anything? If I was a Floridian or Michigander who felt disenfranchised despite breaking the rules, would I suddenly feel good now?

Some people are stupid enough to be affected by the gesture, and some people are stupid enough to think Clinton>McCain>Obama. Obama is betting (and I would consider this a safe bet) that there is a noticeable overlap.

Is there anything so trivial as to NOT warrant a Greenlight by whatever Fark mod that gets their rocks off by watching all these moronic flame wars?

"IN THE NEWS TODAY, OBAMA INHALED. ARMAGEDDON IMMINENT."

Descartes: Symbolic gesture indeed.

If Hillary was to say it was time for the adults to come back in so we could win, and restart her campaign, he would quickly change his mind on this idea.

With imaginary money?

Obama is going to lose.

It's going to be Clinton in the driver's seat and Obama as the vice, just wait. Obama has no chance of winning because he's a dirty elitist nagger. No old people or rednecks are going to vote for him and that's about 3/4 the population of the country. Like I said 100 times before, it's simple math:

Bush's approval rating = 30%
People that actually vote = 50%
100% of Bushies are going to vote for McCain. McCain will win, all he has to do is make sure the 30% show up. Having a nagger on the ticket is worse than Hilary to them. They WILL show up. At least if Hilary is in the drivers seat there is a small chance they could still win because McCain won't get the hilaryis44 vote.

LOLWUT?

Corpus Delecti: Is there anything so trivial as to NOT warrant a Greenlight by whatever Fark mod that gets their rocks off by watching all these moronic flame wars?

"IN THE NEWS TODAY, OBAMA INHALED. ARMAGEDDON IMMINENT."

It's more like this from the conservative bloggers:

"In the news today! Obama Inhaled! Previously exhaled! OMG Flipflop!!1"

If he keeps doing stupid shiat like this he's going to lose his base and lose the election. And that would be a tragedy of epic proportions given who he is running against.

Exodus2001: Obama is going to lose.

It's going to be Clinton in the driver's seat and Obama as the vice, just wait. Obama has no chance of winning because he's a dirty elitist nagger. No old people or rednecks are going to vote for him and that's about 3/4 the population of the country. Like I said 100 times before, it's simple math:

Bush's approval rating = 30%
People that actually vote = 50%
100% of Bushies are going to vote for McCain. McCain will win, all he has to do is make sure the 30% show up. Having a nagger on the ticket is worse than Hilary to them. They WILL show up. At least if Hilary is in the drivers seat there is a small chance they could still win because McCain won't get the hilaryis44 vote.

6/10. Would be trolled again.

Exodus2001: At least if Hilary is in the drivers seat there is a small chance they could still win because McCain won't get the hilaryis44 vote.

Of course he will. Why would his campaign have founded the organization if they couldn't count on its support?

Or do you believe the hillaryis44 people are actual Clinton supporters?

And who knows, they may well be, I've just seen too many ersatz "McCain Democrats" (hey, someone should make that a Fark handle!) to believe even one person claiming to be such.

Exodus2001: Obama is going to lose.

It's going to be Clinton in the driver's seat and Obama as the vice, just wait. Obama has no chance of winning because he's a dirty elitist nagger. No old people or rednecks are going to vote for him and that's about 3/4 the population of the country. Like I said 100 times before, it's simple math:

Bush's approval rating = 30%
People that actually vote = 50%
100% of Bushies are going to vote for McCain. McCain will win, all he has to do is make sure the 30% show up. Having a nagger on the ticket is worse than Hilary to them. They WILL show up. At least if Hilary is in the drivers seat there is a small chance they could still win because McCain won't get the hilaryis44 vote.

2/10 it was too wordy

AbsolutTBomb's alt: Ha ha. I can hear the PUMA heads spinning from here.

If you like PUMA, you will enjoy GretaWire (new window)

FL and MI delegates are so two months ago. I still can't believe some people got so worked up over this crap. I have yet to run into a PUMA person, and if I did I'd probably slap them.

RevMercutio

Um no, that was not a troll, that was a lame attempt at humor. There is a difference. It was more of a preemptive pre-troll humor thing.

BiffDangler: Are Democrats stupid enough to think such a meaningless gesture means anything? If I was a Floridian or Michigander who felt disenfranchised despite breaking the rules, would I suddenly feel good now?

The point isn't to (directly) affect anyone's vote. It's to affect coverage of the convention.

Networks will no longer have a good excuse to 'explain' in excruciating detail why MI and FL don't get their full vote. Now all of their coverage will have to be about past disputes that have been 'resolved'.

Exodus2001: Obama is going to lose.

It's going to be Clinton in the driver's seat and Obama as the vice, just wait. Obama has no chance of winning because he's a dirty elitist nagger. No old people or rednecks are going to vote for him and that's about 3/4 the population of the country. Like I said 100 times before, it's simple math:

Bush's approval rating = 30%
People that actually vote = 50%
100% of Bushies are going to vote for McCain. McCain will win, all he has to do is make sure the 30% show up. Having a nagger on the ticket is worse than Hilary to them. They WILL show up. At least if Hilary is in the drivers seat there is a small chance they could still win because McCain won't get the hilaryis44 vote.

fark these fools, 10/10.

the wordiness is needed. he's a lib-troll, not a neo-con. he's got to sound overly educated, elitist, and yet still carry the right tone of quixotic fervor, tempered by the god given cerebral grace of the average turnip.

bravo, sir, i LOL'd.

I agree with this entire list except for "Ocean's 12" (which was not overrated -- it was mediocre and everyone pretty much regards it as such -- I don't know where the writer lives that everyone thinks of it as a great film) and "Mystic River" and "The Departed" which, suck my dick, were excellent.

margarito bandito: I think he is playing with fire, the Clinton machine is not totally dead.

She will return in 2012 to try for the nom to run against President Grandpa or his VP.

Book it. Done.

I just laugh at this.

Why the hell does anybody make rules when the first order of business is to throw them out and start making crap up as you go?

I am so proud of the DNC and the candidates. Way to represent...the losing side of ethics.

Any steps further down and we'll be equal to the RNC and Trial Lawyers.

Facepalm.

MonkeyAngst: I agree with this entire list except for "Ocean's 12" (which was not overrated -- it was mediocre and everyone pretty much regards it as such -- I don't know where the writer lives that everyone thinks of it as a great film) and "Mystic River" and "The Departed" which, suck my dick, were excellent.

You, sir, converse in the manner of a homosexual and your feces are, in their entirety, mentally challenged.

Caring Is Creepy FL and MI delegates are so two months ago. I still can't believe some people got so worked up over this crap. I have yet to run into a PUMA person, and if I did I'd probably slap them.

Yeah, 2 battleground states that have been crucial in the past, with serious economic troubles, feeling downright neglected if not targeted from poor Democratic leadership in-state. Fark 'em, see you at the polls;

I'm surprised anyone still cares about this. Aside from the Concern Trolls, of course.

Michigan maybe. But Florida gave us George W. Bush, they should never be allowed to vote.

simpsonfan: Michigan maybe. But Florida gave us George W. Bush, they should never be allowed to vote.

Seriously. We should just sell the rest of the state to Disney. Let it be sovereign territory of the corporation. They'd be doing us a favor.

Exodus2001: Obama is going to lose.

It's going to be Clinton in the driver's seat and Obama as the vice, just wait. Obama has no chance of winning because he's a dirty elitist nagger. No old people or rednecks are going to vote for him and that's about 3/4 the population of the country. Like I said 100 times before, it's simple math:

Bush's approval rating = 30%
People that actually vote = 50%
100% of Bushies are going to vote for McCain. McCain will win, all he has to do is make sure the 30% show up. Having a nagger on the ticket is worse than Hilary to them. They WILL show up. At least if Hilary is in the drivers seat there is a small chance they could still win because McCain won't get the hilaryis44 vote.

I'd really like to see Bush's approval rating broken out state by state. Any Farkers got a link? I think it's safe to say that his support is centralized in like Utah. The swing states for this election would be most important.

Isn't Obama that guy who says bland things in a pretty way that gets everyone excited that he's something more than a freshman senator with a weak record?

Oh yeah, bring on the JFK, who as president:

1. Faced a debacle in the Bay of Pigs,
2. Broke international law by blockading Cuba
3. Didn't complete his terms.

my flame contribution.

margarito bandito: I think he is playing with fire, the Clinton machine is not totally dead.

Half delegates, full delegates, it would not have mattered. Obama would have beaten her either way. The only way it might have made a difference is if Hillary was given all of the delegates from Michigan and Obama was given none. But that would have been totally ridiculous.

Lando Lincoln: The only way it might have made a difference is if Hillary was given all of the delegates from Michigan and Obama was given none. But that would have been totally ridiculous

exactly how many votes did your messiah get in MI again?

oh, right. zero.

captain_napalm: exactly how many votes did your messiah get in MI again?

oh, right. zero.

You're not REALLY that dumb, are you? I mean, you've figured out how to access the internet and can type, so you can't be completely retarded.

Exodus2001: Obama is going to lose.

It's going to be Clinton in the driver's seat and Obama as the vice, just wait. Obama has no chance of winning because he's a dirty elitist nagger. No old people or rednecks are going to vote for him and that's about 3/4 the population of the country. Like I said 100 times before, it's simple math:

Bush's approval rating = 30%
People that actually vote = 50%
100% of Bushies are going to vote for McCain. McCain will win, all he has to do is make sure the 30% show up. Having a nagger on the ticket is worse than Hilary to them. They WILL show up. At least if Hilary is in the drivers seat there is a small chance they could still win because McCain won't get the hilaryis44 vote.

Several people are calling this a troll (which it might be, I suppose) but there is a valid point in it. Republicans seem to be more likely to vote than Democrats, although their motives may be driven by fear rather than idealism. People who lean left (often younger people and minorities) are also the people who are statistically less likely to vote. It wouldn't have taken many of those votes to have changed the 2000 election.

Democrats = Young, vocal idealists whose purity of conviction would be tarnished by doing something as breathtakingly rational as voting.

Republicans = Afraid of what the godless, heathen Democrats would do once they're elected into office.

The good news about having Bush in office is that his Presidency may inspire millions of people who have never voted before to do so. His legacy may be the realization that if we want to be heard, we need to speak a lot louder.

/I say this all as a very disillusioned, historically conservative-leaning voter.

atowntommy: Isn't Obama that guy who says bland things in a pretty way that gets everyone excited that he's something more than a freshman senator with a weak record?

Oh yeah, bring on the JFK, who as president:

1. Faced a debacle in the Bay of Pigs,
2. Broke international law by blockading Cuba
3. Didn't complete his terms.

my flame contribution.

Well, No. 3 wasn't entirely JFK's fault. One or more gunmen gave him some assistance there.

And he came in kind of in the middle of Bay of Pigs. Bissel and the CIA was already rocknrolling on that idea in fall of 1960 under Eisenhower. Kennedy's contribution was not pulling the plug when he had the chance.

Exodus2001: At least if Hilary is in the drivers seat there is a small chance they could still win because McCain won't get the hilaryis44 vote.

The "hilaryis44 vote"? Really?

BiffDangler 2008-08-03 07:00:40 PM
"Are Democrats stupid enough to think such a meaningless gesture means anything? If I was a Floridian or Michigander who felt disenfranchised despite breaking the rules, would I suddenly feel good now?"

You would be an idiot if you thought your Hillary vote meant anything since she was the big loser.

And Obama is a hypocrite again, surprise.

is this where we act surprised and outraged, conveniently forgetting that everyone knew and fully expected that this was going to happen before they even settled the issue at the rules committee?

Hiro Nakamura: MonkeyAngst: I agree with this entire list except for "Ocean's 12" (which was not overrated -- it was mediocre and everyone pretty much regards it as such -- I don't know where the writer lives that everyone thinks of it as a great film) and "Mystic River" and "The Departed" which, suck my dick, were excellent.

You, sir, converse in the manner of a homosexual and your feces are, in their entirety, mentally challenged.

D'oh! I must concur.