Not based around 12-bar blues? Unpossible! All music is based around 12-bar blues.

/wife listens to their album way too much. Yet she yawns when I play my Paco de Lúcia CDs... curious.

I can get behind this. Lots of melody, rhythm and percussive playing. No comparison to those speed demon note masturbators.

How does that guitar plug in?

Wait. I forget.

Which guitarists are we supposed to hate?

guitar: Wait. I forget.

Which guitarists are we supposed to hate?

Anyone who isn't in your favorite band. Now head on over to the Rolling Stone Thesaurus to brush up on your bullshiat.

DreamBrother: No comparison to those speed demon note masturbators.

Those two appear regularly w/ Alex Skolnick of Testament. He may be a shredder, but he's no slouch. Check them out together. (new window)

I feel acoustically titillated.

It has no soul, but not for the reasons subby thinks. It wasnt much fun to watch because They don't convey any passion or joy, like most technical musicians. seems like when you study scales for too long, it drains the passion out of you.

Kind of like seeing Keith emerson playing 1000 scale on his keyboard, sure he is great but im soooooooooooo bored.

I know the song here isnt rock, but my theory is that 90% of the best rock songs ever written were done by kids not even 20 who could barely play their instruments.

Because they play with their balls, their heart and their guts. No music knowledge is necessary, only instinct

Way Boring- there are a lot of musicians who play that style of music much better, and with much more talent. Why are they so popular?

HappyHarryHardOn: It has no soul, but not for the reasons subby thinks. It wasnt much fun to watch because They don't convey any passion or joy, like most technical musicians. seems like when you study scales for too long, it drains the passion out of you.

Kind of like seeing Keith emerson playing 1000 scale on his keyboard, sure he is great but im soooooooooooo bored.

I know the song here isnt rock, but my theory is that 90% of the best rock songs ever written were done by kids not even 20 who could barely play their instruments.

Because they play with their balls, their heart and their guts. No music knowledge is necessary, only instinct

no no no, those are the songs that you wonder 5 years later how you could ever possibly have liked it.

The instant it was over I forgot it.

Listen to "Vaseline Machine Gun" by Leo Kottke and it will stay with you all day.

fizzix_is_fun: HappyHarryHardOn: It has no soul, but not for the reasons subby thinks. It wasnt much fun to watch because They don't convey any passion or joy, like most technical musicians. seems like when you study scales for too long, it drains the passion out of you.

Kind of like seeing Keith emerson playing 1000 scale on his keyboard, sure he is great but im soooooooooooo bored.

I know the song here isnt rock, but my theory is that 90% of the best rock songs ever written were done by kids not even 20 who could barely play their instruments.

Because they play with their balls, their heart and their guts. No music knowledge is necessary, only instinct

no no no, those are the songs that you wonder 5 years later how you could ever possibly have liked it.


I was never like that, once I like something, Ill still like it 20 years down the line. I still listen the stuff I liked when I was 18

I just find that simplicity in music makes for much better, direct and honest songs

tabula_rasta: Not based around 12-bar blues? Unpossible! All music is based around 12-bar blues.

/wife listens to their album way too much. Yet she yawns when I play my Paco de Lúcia CDs... curious.

and how does she feel when you slap some Einsturzende Neubauten?

/big "halber mensch" fan

Current flamenco like this is to blame for Mexican culture being set back 30 years and erasing 20 years of gains.

HappyHarryHardOn: I just find that simplicity in music makes for much better, direct and honest songs

There is no connection between the simplicity or complexity of a song and it's honesty.

That's just silly.

guitar: Wait. I forget.

Which guitarists are we supposed to hate?

Anyone who plays fast and any kind of music that you don't understand.

Somewhat acoustic passion (new window).

I wish she let her boob hang over the top of the guitar. Other that that, I thought it was cool.

HappyHarryHardOn: I just find that simplicity in music makes for much better, direct and honest songs

It kind of makes me sad that people would limit themselves to such a tiny slice of music. I understand that people have different tastes and won't like everything, but there's so much good music out there that doesn't fit within this limited genre.

LewDux: Current flamenco like this is to blame for Mexican culture being set back 30 years and erasing 20 years of gains.

Now this comment makes me curious.

People who think music is spawned from the stupid facial expressions and movement a musician does are stupid.

Not everyone plays for the benefit and showmanship of others. Sometimes they just like to play.

I sure as hell don't sit there, playing my guitar while I make psuedo-emotional faces with every note I hit.

But I guess I'm not a real musician, huh? ... only playing 9 different ones. It's all technical... no real musical skill.

Yes, and if you don't like these two, then DON'T, whatever you do, go and watch them play Stairway to Heaven (new window)

TheSuperFunk People who think music is spawned from the stupid facial expressions and movement a musician does are stupid

I can agree with that. Of course, I have no idea where you're coming from. I've never heard anyone listening to music at home suddenly exclaim, "But I can't see their faces!" before harrumphing dejectedly away.

Sometimes they just like to play.

And sometimes I just like to listen. Are you telling me my likes are trumped by those of musicians, real or unreal or even ranting?

Nickcin: HappyHarryHardOn: I just find that simplicity in music makes for much better, direct and honest songs

It kind of makes me sad that people would limit themselves to such a tiny slice of music. I understand that people have different tastes and won't like everything, but there's so much good music out there that doesn't fit within this limited genre.

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sorry if i conveyed that, but thats quite the opposite, I listen to everything jazz, classical, prog, punk, world, blues , rap... ect... so what i said before is a generalization of years and years of music. As much as I love and appreciate some jazz Like mingus, miles, Pharaoh sanfers, roland kirk ext ext ... it will never grab me as viscerally as a good 3-chord classic



I guess i typed 20 paragraph that could be reduced to : "less is more"

sheeit. sorry for the bold.

/why does fark now make nicknames links? if it's quoted, I think I can read the quote and don't need the actual post. meh.

So they've filled up the US so now they are crossing Irelands border?

Just base it on fractals and you'll be fine. Easy enough?

seriouscoyote: Way Boring- there are a lot of musicians who play that style of music much better, and with much more talent. Why are they so popular?

THIS. this is the 2nd song ive heard from these two and both were absolutely terrible and without the slightest decent guitar playing. so many good versions of this kind of thing, wtf is with these guys getting so huge?

HappyHappy...: and how does she feel when you slap some Einsturzende Neubauten?

Cool... new band for me to check out this weekend. By the qwikipedia description, I'll probably like it a lot.

She'll probably say "I'll give you and Pere Ubu some privacy" and then leave the room to listen to Rodrigo & Gabriela, or Vampire Weekend, or Fleet Foxes, or Radiohead or Coldplay or whoever else she's listening to this week.

/cracks me up every time. In our house, "Pere Ubu" has become the genericized trademark for anything weird from my music collection. Originally, it was "Oingo Boingo" but eventually she started liking them.

now my butt has no feeling from being rocked so hard

mahavishnunj: seriouscoyote: Way Boring- there are a lot of musicians who play that style of music much better, and with much more talent. Why are they so popular?

THIS. this is the 2nd song ive heard from these two and both were absolutely terrible and without the slightest decent guitar playing. so many good versions of this kind of thing, wtf is with these guys getting so huge?

Because you both suck, that's why. Now stop having different taste to me and go listen to The Jonas Brothers or whatever it is that the kids are into these days.

Sorry. I didn't make it past Colin Jackassson. Christ Almighty, where do they dig up these late night numbnuts?

A chiseriouscoyote: Way Boring- there are a lot of musicians who play that style of music much better, and with much more talent. Why are they so popular?

Esto.

Their playing is clearly photoshopped. You can see the pixels.

tabula_rasta: HappyHappy...: and how does she feel when you slap some Einsturzende Neubauten?

Cool... new band for me to check out this weekend. By the qwikipedia description, I'll probably like it a lot.

She'll probably say "I'll give you and Pere Ubu some privacy" and then leave the room to listen to Rodrigo & Gabriela, or Vampire Weekend, or Fleet Foxes, or Radiohead or Coldplay or whoever else she's listening to this week.

/cracks me up every time. In our house, "Pere Ubu" has become the genericized trademark for anything weird from my music collection. Originally, it was "Oingo Boingo" but eventually she started liking them.

hOLY smoke, I automatically assumed that your handle was a reference to the German band ... yeah, check em out, its industrial music as industrial as it gets (they used actual power tools), but you kind of have to know your way around them ,some albums are just a tad noisy and like i mentioned, "halber mensch" is a great one... here is the audio for one of the song from that album (new window)

enjoy if you can

Revolutionary chops, and pipes to go with them:



RIP, Michael.

galactus5000: Because you both suck, that's why. Now stop having different taste to me and go listen to The Jonas Brothers or whatever it is that the kids are into these days.

its not a matter of taste, these guys are like the special ed version of flamenco. their covers are even worse than their originals. are the jonas brothers good?

/brother gets rolling stone, so i know they have something to do with god and kids. no thanks.

Certainly You Jest: Revolutionary chops, and pipes to go with them:



RIP, Michael.

Miss that man very much. I would also add Michael Manring as another outstanding guitarist (bass guitar).

bingo the psych-o: I would also add Michael Manring as another outstanding guitarist (bass guitar).

hes actually on one of the live hedges records(live on the double planet i think?). first place i ever heard manring, and youre right-hes amazing.

I liked this playing, and I found it quite soulful more than technical. She's playing percussion on her acoustic for chrissakes.

And yes I have seen Paco Delucia live, and yes I think he was the best guitarist I have ever seen. Not much experience with flamenco except that, I must admit.

HappyHarryHardOn: It has no soul, but not for the reasons subby thinks. It wasnt much fun to watch because They don't convey any passion or joy, like most technical musicians. seems like when you study scales for too long, it drains the passion out of you.

Kind of like seeing Keith emerson playing 1000 scale on his keyboard, sure he is great but im soooooooooooo bored.

I know the song here isnt rock, but my theory is that 90% of the best rock songs ever written were done by kids not even 20 who could barely play their instruments.

Because they play with their balls, their heart and their guts. No music knowledge is necessary, only instinct

You're exactly right. I've read about them and have their CD, and they DONT play with any passion. So here's the deal with them: they come from a failed Metal band, and found out people like this music, so they started playing it to pay the bills. In the album notes, they make it patently obvious that they dont like this kind of music. Its all sorta lame.

But the music is fun

saw them at summerfest they really kicked ass
/thats it no snark or trolling
//feels weird

Music is a LANGUAGE. And like some spoken or written ones, some get many and some can only get one or a few. Technical is the correct description, and the talent these players have as well of the mastery of their instruments is obvious.

That said, music as a LANGUAGE has to touch some essential part of any individuals human experience to matter or be enjoyed. From making you tap your foot, to making you weep, if it doesn't then the artist has failed to COMMUNICATE with you.

The playing was fantastic, but the music sucked because they aren't feeling it in the first place, and you can't convey what you don't feel.

That was so much nicer than the usual shredding rubbish that gets posted here. Thanks, Subby.

Current flamenco like this is to blame for Mexican culture being set back 30 years and erasing 20 years of gains.

Yeah, I third the "wtf" comment.

Regardless, watch/listen to some real flamenco, not this sloppy hand flapping stuff with timid melodies.

Now Esteban, that's some REAL music.

How. That host is like a British Alan Thicke, but even more douchebaggery.

bingo the psych-o: Certainly You Jest: Revolutionary chops, and pipes to go with them:



RIP, Michael.

Miss that man very much.

+1

This is like the ass-crack of flamenco.

bingo the psych-o: Certainly You Jest: Revolutionary chops, and pipes to go with them:



RIP, Michael.

Miss that man very much. I would also add Michael Manring as another outstanding guitarist (bass guitar).

The two Michaels were great friends, and performed together often.

You can often bittorent their 1994 show together in Maryland--GREAT stuff.

Why do the best often disappear so young?

+1 to Leo Kottke's "Vaseline Machine Gun". If you like Kottke you'll also probably like John Fahey as well; the two were pioneers of the acoustic style known as "American Primitive". Absolutely superb.

Doc Watson was a wizard with an acoustic -- he did the definitive version of "Windy and Warm". (And he reversed the usual career arc of guitarists by starting out on an electric and moving to an acoustic.)

I must say, though, that a lot of the modern acoustic stuff is nice but completely forgettable. It's mostly new-agey jazz stuff, or pseudo-flamenco arrangements. Nothing wrong with that (Esteeeebaaaaaan!), but it doesn't really stand out. It's the kind of stuff you'd expect some sallow chick to be playing in a coffee house somewhere. Meh.