Still is no matter who wants to do it.

What? _{You're irked I didn't swallow your troll bait? Too bad.}

He was against it before he was for it.

It's still dumb.

Anything that condones driving more is a bad idea. The "working families" have no sympathy from me; people should live near work, play, and/or public transit so they don't have to drive as much. Communities should be built with this in mind. I'd like a stimulus check for NOT driving.

I think "New Coke" edges it out, but what was it Ben Franklin said about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

I paid taxes with my stimulus check.

Yes, and it's still a dumb idea.

Dumb.

Ron Paul would send everyone real gold, not checks to cash on the Federal Reserve's fiat currency.

Nabb1: I think "New Coke" edges it out, but what was it Ben Franklin said about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

I don't know what Franklin said, but coincidently Einstein said that it was the definition of insanity.

I paid for rehab with it. But, this economy suck so bad I wish I were still on drugs. :(

2wolves: Still is no matter who wants to do it.

kronicfeld: It's still dumb.

Nestea Plunge: Dumb when Bush did it, just as dumb for Obama to suggest it.

patrick767: Yes, and it's still a dumb idea.

MorrisBird: Dumb.

So the idea is to tax the oil companies so the govt can give us little guys a check so we have more money to pay for fuel so the oil companies can continue making a profit?

YEAH!! Lets borrow more money from China to buy Chinese goods!!

/loves tax cuts
//should come from cuts in spending
///wonders how we are going to have tax cuts and a trillion dollar increase in the budget
////not really I know how

Obama, man, please don't do this shiat to me. We don't agree on everything, but so far I've been able to love you anyway because hey, honorable men/women can disagree.

But this, this is stupid, weapons grade stupid. And stupid I have trouble forgiving. Read your history! Semi-random monetary gifts to the people never end well! It's a vicious cycle, and I understand the political and social momentum that makes it seem like a good idea. But it really isn't.

/Still voting for him.

platkat: The "working families" have no sympathy from me; people should live near work, play, and/or public transit so they don't have to drive as much. Communities should be built with this in mind.

When you come back from Make-Believe Land, will you bring me a souvenir?

BritneysSpeculum: Nabb1: I think "New Coke" edges it out, but what was it Ben Franklin said about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

I don't know what Franklin said, but coincidently Einstein said that it was the definition of insanity.

Uh, yeah, Franklin said that was Einstein's definition of insanity. Smart guy, that Franklin. Way ahead of his time.

ThisIsNotSubtle: /Still voting for him.

And he knows that! He has his base locked down and out of play. So now it is time to out "conservative" McCain. Which is very easy to do (save on the military topic). So you can look forward to Obama being more Republican than the Republican in the race.

My prediction? This ain't gonna be close. Either Obama is going to win very big or is going to self destruct. Of course I thought Hillary was going to be the next Prez. So take it for what it is worth.

It wasn't as dumb as starting a twelve front land war in Asia...

I'm not crazy about this, but at least he's proposing a way to pay for it, unlike Bush.

CheddarPants: I'm not crazy about this, but at least he's proposing a way to pay for it, unlike Bush.

Right -- instead of cutting spending, he's suggesting that we just tax private business. Fantastic idea.

It still is a stupid idea.

Vote Republican in 2008 and support more spending cuts like before.

abb3w: It wasn't as dumb as starting a twelve front land war in Asia...

Ok, that is an order of magnitude more stupid. Took a 'special' administration to get that going.

platkat: Anything that condones driving more is a bad idea. The "working families" have no sympathy from me; people should live near work, play, and/or public transit so they don't have to drive as much. Communities should be built with this in mind. I'd like a stimulus check for NOT driving.

It's the fault of "working families" that their civic leaders are corrupt politicians in the hands of local construction contractors. They should suffer for this. Damn you, plebian scum!

Anyone wondering where the hell McCain is going with this "don't vote for my celebrity opponent" thing? Might be one of the dumber criticisms I've ever seen. It's like he's some nerdy 8th grader running for student council president against a cheerleader and doesn't want it to be a popularity contest. We get it, John, you think people are voting for Obama because he's coooooool. Ain't going to work, that's not the appeal.

My stimulus package has had great returns.

ThisIsNotSubtle: Obama, man, please don't do this shiat to me. We don't agree on everything, but so far I've been able to love you anyway because hey, honorable men/women can disagree.

But this, this is stupid, weapons grade stupid. And stupid I have trouble forgiving. Read your history! Semi-random monetary gifts to the people never end well! It's a vicious cycle, and I understand the political and social momentum that makes it seem like a good idea. But it really isn't.

/Still voting for him.

Sums it up nicely for me as well. I'm still voting for him, but this is a bad idea. Not "can't vote for you" bad, but bad all the same.

bikerdiva: I paid for rehab with it. But, this economy suck so bad I wish I were still on drugs. :(

What exactly does $600 rehab entail?

I'm picturing being chained to sadist's radiator and a lot of "You'll drink urine - and like it!"

pandabear: Ron Paul would send everyone real gold, not checks to cash on the Federal Reserve's fiat currency.

Why did I just imagine Ron Paul on the Lucky Charms box, chasing the leprechaun across the rainbow?

Tax and Spend! Tax and Spend!

It's a lot better than Tax Less and Spend More! That only works for about 4 years. But then it becomes another president's problem.

It was a VERY short-term solution. Of course the economy would get a slight blip when that much money is given out to the population, but is $600 really going to be that significant of a help to people?

Solid State Vittles: Anyone wondering where the hell McCain is going with this "don't vote for my celebrity opponent" thing?

This:

Well, taking a fraction of the record profits from big oil and giving it back to us is akin to lowering the price retroactively, isn't it?

Yes, yes, big oil will just raise the price to make up for it I suppose.

But then again I thought the oil companies didn't control the price.

Somebody straighten me out on this.

Nabb1: I think "New Coke" edges it out, but what was it Ben Franklin said about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

You must be forgetting Crystal Pepsi.

helix400: This:

Do you really think this is because McCain is saying that Obama is like totally the pretty girl and this shouldn't like all be like a popularity contest LOL? That rollercoaster of a graph you posed moves for a lot of reasons, but I have a hard time believing that this very dumb talking point is one of them.

Solid State Vittles: helix400: This:

Do you really think this is because McCain is saying that Obama is like totally the pretty girl and this shouldn't like all be like a popularity contest LOL? That rollercoaster of a graph you posed moves for a lot of reasons, but I have a hard time believing that this very dumb talking point is one of them.

Hey, when a meaningless daily tracking poll is all ya got, you have to go with it.

He's certainly doing his best to make me forget about the reasons I've supported him. No way in hell would I vote for McCain, and I'm still impossibly sick of the RNC smear machine, but my enthusiasm has suffered these last few weeks for reasons having nothing to do with the McCain campaign's infantile attacks.

Probably the worst part will be conceding that all the obnoxious "see they really are all the same!1!" guys were right.

/not looking forward to that

platkat: Anything that condones driving more is a bad idea. The "working families" have no sympathy from me; people should live near work, play, and/or public transit so they don't have to drive as much. Communities should be built with this in mind. I'd like a stimulus check for NOT driving.

Why do you hate America?

/In 'murca, we drahve ev'where boa! We don't know 'bout no fancy-pants "subways" 'round heah (but I heah they make good sammiches...)

It's a stupid idea, no matter who's it is.

abb3w: It wasn't as dumb as starting a twelve front land war in Asia...

Is it as dumb as extending that war into another country? Say, Pakistan?

It's not dumb when the Messiah does it. Duh!

pandabear: Ron Paul would send everyone real gold, not checks to cash on the Federal Reserve's fiat currency.

HAHAHAHAHA.

/awesome.

it's a dumb idea, and it'll probably get shot down. the guy's not perfect, but he's still head and shoulders above cotton hill, literally and figuratively

Solid State Vittles: Do you really think this is because McCain is saying that Obama is like totally the pretty girl and this shouldn't like all be like a popularity contest LOL? That rollercoaster of a graph you posed moves for a lot of reasons, but I have a hard time believing that this very dumb talking point is one of them.

Negative attack ads work. Attacking Obama on oil and on him being naive works. It may not be completely true, but it works.

I remember how most thought the stimulus package was the dumbest idea ever. I suspect most of those people still do. I'd wonder how many people who thought it was the cat's ass are still singing that tune.

Yay let big oil pay for our welfare check and we can use it to pay the 6 dollar gas we'll have because of the taxing he plans

Nemo's Brother: It's not dumb when the Messiah does it. Duh!

Taking tax money and giving out $600 as a way to stimulate the economy while running record debt and spending billions on our adventure in Iraq is quite a bit different than extracting a small fraction of big oil's record profits and basically giving us a rebate on $4-$5 per gallon gas over the last six months isn't it?

I freely admit that I scoffed at Bush's attempt to achieve anything with his "package". I do not scoff at getting some of my money back for the ridiculous gas prices we have been forced to pay today.

And no, I will not shed a tear for Exxon and Chevron et al if they make a few billion less than they thought they would this year.

abb3w: It wasn't as dumb as starting a twelve front land war in Asia...

but it was as dumb as going against a Sicilian when death is on the line.

helix400: Negative attack ads work. Attacking Obama on oil and on him being naive works. It may not be completely true, but it works.

I don't even think it's negative though. It's like he's jealous that he's not the cheerleader. No one, and I mean NO ONE, somehow finds a connection between Obama and Britney Spears/Paris Hilton. It's just weird in its stupidity.