here's the hersh article (new window)

But.... what if they shoot back?

Boom de yada...

Look, Sy Hersh is the closest thing American journalism has to a terrorist, frankly.

--Richard Perle, CNN, March 9, 2003

And if a true patriot like Richard Perle says Seymour Hersh is full of shiat about this stuff, well then, that's good enough for me!

Cyberluddite: Look, Sy Hersh is the closest thing American journalism has to a terrorist, frankly.

--Richard Perle, CNN, March 9, 2003

And if a true patriot like Richard Perle says Seymour Hersh is full of shiat about this stuff, well then, that's good enough for me!


I'm just glad my name isn't Dick Perle.

To prevent war, the galaxy is on Orion's belt.

FlashHarry: here's the hersh article (new window)

I don't see the claim in the headline in that article.

It worked in 1939.

Apparently Dick Cheney hasn't forgotten Poland.

Can't he just shoot someone in the face to satisfy his bloodlust?

Read that New Yorker article. Scary.

Basically Bush and Cheney want war and the Pentagon doesn't. If it was up to Bush and Cheney we would be bombing Iran right now.

lunchinlewis: I don't see the claim in the headline in that article.

Cosgriff's demeanor angered Cheney, according to the former senior intelligence official. But a lesson was learned in the incident: The public had supported the idea of retaliation, and was even asking why the U.S. didn't do more. The former official said that, a few weeks later, a meeting took place in the Vice-President's office. "The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington," he said.

I'm assuming that submitter was referencing the Gleiwitz incident just to add bonus snark into the headline.

Giblet:
I'm just glad my name isn't Dick Perle.

I wonder if he gives his wife necklaces for her birthday?

IF true... then we have a VP considering high treason, defined as:

Criminal disloyalty to one's country.

Yup.

Visualingo: Giblet:
I'm just glad my name isn't Dick Perle.

I wonder if he gives his wife necklaces for her birthday?


More likely that he gives his boyfriend those necklaces... He IS a neo-con.

chimpy and dickey are gonna be outta work come January, why don't they suit up in a pt boat since they will need the work and dodged the draft to boot.

/might as well get something of value out of them for what they have and will continue to cost us.

Rain-Monkey: IF true... then we have a VP considering high treason, defined as:

Criminal disloyalty to one's country.

Yup.


Or, wait until he's out of office and start a class-action lawsuit against him (and his chums) for wrongful death... You don't have to prove anything that way, there already exists a preponderance of evidence to support such a suit, and it would completely destroy him financially. That's all he cares about, so hit him where it hurts most.

Giblet: . . . and it would completely destroy him financially. That's all he cares about, so hit him where it hurts most.

I am of the mind that farknuts like Cheney crave power over money. Money helps secure the power, but the power is the ultimate goal.

Three Crooked Squirrels: Giblet: . . . and it would completely destroy him financially. That's all he cares about, so hit him where it hurts most.

I am of the mind that farknuts like Cheney crave power over money. Money helps secure the power, but the power is the ultimate goal.


Fair enough... I'm a generous man. 120 or 220VAC?

Bill_Wick's_Friend: It worked in 1939.

Apparently Dick Cheney hasn't forgotten Poland.


Indeed.

Gleiwitz incident (new window)

It's hardly an original thought. I'm just surprised that people are surprised at it.

You know, with all the false alarms and other bullshiat (Paint a U2 in UN colors!) crap that these guys pull, if Tehran lobbed a nuke into the middle of NYC, after going on official state television telling us they were going to do exactly that, and forensics show the uranium in the bomb came from an Iranian reactor, I would still half wonder if the event was a false-flag operation by Dick and co.

Thank you for making me distrust my government more than most foreign governments, Messers. Bush and Cheney.

Skleenar: Thank you for making me distrust my government more than most foreign governments, Messers. Bush and Cheney.

christ almighty, THIS.

Rusty Shackleford: Gleiwitz incident

This.

Skleenar: Thank you for making me distrust my government more than most foreign governments, Messers. Bush and Cheney.

That too.

Jesus.

/I'm really proud to be an American right now.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: It worked in 1939.

...and on 9/11.

BearToy: ...and on 9/11.

As much as I want to post that picture of the guy with the tinfoil on his head...

The guys running my country right now make it really hard for me to be so flippant in my dismissal.

BearToy: ...and on 9/11

Strange how actual journalists and diplomats and foreign affairs watchers were well aware by mid-December of 1939 that the Polish "invasion" of Germany had been a German fraud.

Compare to 9/11 -- a handful of crackpots with ever-shifting "proof" (no plane hit the pentagon. *shown photos* ..ok, a plane hit the pentagone, but not the one they said hit the *shown more photos* ok...the plane they said hit the pentagon really DID hit the pentagon, but in New York....) insisting that it's all a giant false-flag op. Nobody with any actual experience or actual credentials believes that to be true.

Give it up. "9-11 Troof" is soooo 2006.

god damn that man is evil.

Is this the greatest godwin in the history of that meme?

bulldg4life: Is this the greatest godwin in the history of that meme?

Possibly, but I vote for 'Verschärfte Vernehmung' (new window)

It means 'enhanced interrogation' in German.

Let me guess? New Yorker, Seymour Hersh?

Next week: Seymour Hersh claims the 9/11 was an inside job, and once again, only he has the exclusive info no other journalist could get.

Skleenar: You know, with all the false alarms and other bullshiat (Paint a U2 in UN colors!) crap that these guys pull, if Tehran lobbed a nuke into the middle of NYC, after going on official state television telling us they were going to do exactly that, and forensics show the uranium in the bomb came from an Iranian reactor, I would still half wonder if the event was a false-flag operation by Dick and co.

Thank you for making me distrust my government more than most foreign governments, Messers. Bush and Cheney.


This.

Seymor Hersch has detailed insider informatin about a secret meeting at the highest levels of government in a closed door meeting?

BearToy: Bill_Wick's_Friend: It worked in 1939.

...and on 9/11.

Maybe 9/11, who knows.
But the gov't did lead us into WW1, the Lusitania, WW2, Pearl Harbor,
Vietnam, Gulf of Tonkin...

/http://911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html
//Not a good source, I know.
///Internets is serious business.

Can't we get a BIG-time Jodie Foster fan out of retirement?

Not that I would suggest assassination or anything.

I'm dead, aren't I?

/really, just kidding. Unlike our vice-president, I would never advocate killing innocent civilians OR soldiers.

Three Crooked Squirrels: Giblet: . . . and it would completely destroy him financially. That's all he cares about, so hit him where it hurts most.

I am of the mind that farknuts like Cheney crave power over money. Money helps secure the power, but the power is the ultimate goal.

The he should read:

The US Gov. is on the case! Dick Cheney is a MASTERMIND!

Wow you libs are so tool.

False flag operations don't exist folks... move along...

However, to PREVENT war, the galaxy is on Orion's belt.

Look, Sy Hersh is the closest thing American journalism has to a terrorist, frankly.

--Richard Perle, CNN, March 9, 2003


What scum. When Sy Hersh is confronted with this type of criticism, he just shrugs it off and says something along the lines of, "I care about my country and my job." He's got integrity.

I can just see him in his corduroy suit sitting on a squeaky office chair typing at an old typewriter in a fluorescent-lit room. That's probably not true at all, but that's how I like to imagine hardscrabble journalists.

Skleenar: Thank you for making me distrust my government more than most foreign governments, Messers. Bush and Cheney.

I'm sorry that conspiracy theories have that effect on you.

Giblet: More likely that he gives his boyfriend those necklaces... He IS a neo-con.

What are you, some kind of homephobe?

FTA And it was rejected because you can't have Americans killing Americans.

Why stop now, the military's been doing this for years. Hell Cheney himself has a habit of shooting his fellow Americans.

EliteAnalyst: Obama is on record as being every bit the warmonger on the Iran issue that Bush is, FWIW.

Greetings, and welcome to our planet! You'll get used to facts like the sky is blue and gravity makes things fall down eventually!

KodiaKilla Quote 2008-07-31 06:11:46 PM
Wow you libs are so tool.

Your post is so awesome.

Well why not? A false attack on a ship is America's usual method of starting a war. It keeps things nice and simple in the head of the average US dickhead - "Avenge the USS Spunkfelcher!"

Seriously, why don't you people just all kill yourselves? You're the worst country the world has seen since Nazi Germany, just pure out-and-out evil. Kill yourselves.

Nogrhi, I owe you one intertube for duplicating. Collect 'em all!