But But Rev. Wright!!!!

/good article, nice to see that someone is actually paying attention to the old man and his 'foibles'.

doesn't count, he's black, he's obviously in the tank for obama

The media will not crush McCain unless he kills and eats a baby on live TV. They will nail Obama on every mistake he makes. Why? Because if they nail McCain the election won't even be close. And there's no money to be made with a blowout election.

As nice as they've been to Obama this week is the same degree to which they've let McCain slide on all the mistakes he's made this week.

If McCain wasn't such a horrible and truly pitiful candidate you'd see much more balanced coverage of them by the MSM.

CravenMorehead: The media will not crush McCain unless he kills and eats a baby on live TV. They will nail Obama on every mistake he makes. Why? Because if they nail McCain the election won't even be close. And there's no money to be made with a blowout election.

As nice as they've been to Obama this week is the same degree to which they've let McCain slide on all the mistakes he's made this week.

If McCain wasn't such a horrible and truly pitiful candidate you'd see much more balanced coverage of them by the MSM.

Which shows that people's claims that the media is bias towards Obama is 100% true. The thing is, however, is that a bias isn't always a positive.

/Obama news = money
//Close race = money
///McCain = meh news that everybody knows = no money

After seeing McCain come out criticising Obama for "Ignoring injured troops (in Germany)"... He has made it perfectly clear he plans on fully embracing Rove v3.0.

Regardless of what the polls say... Here is the way I see it:

-History is on Obama's side economically speaking..
-History is against Obama as far as his color and wierd name.
-Mud flinging has a longgg succesful history.

So you have contradicting histories in play... I've already came to the conclusion that Obama is not willing to fling nearly as much poo (taking the high road just like Kerry, regardless of what he says)...and this is not good.

This is what scares the hell out of me: People who are willing to vote for McSame after 8-years of Bush representing ~42% of the voting electorate. McCain could royally screw the pooch and keep those voters.. I do not think Obama's voting block is nearly as concrete (or large)... and I certainly think that on a sliding scale, if Obama and McCain commited the same screw-up, McCain would lose very little voters and Obama could lose a ton. In other words, has to play it perfectly.

/IMHO, Obama damn well better pickup a VP who is a poo-flinging SOB.

I'm not TOO worried yet. If nothing else, Obama has proven that he can defend himself against an opponent who likes to play dirty and is a bully. He did beat the witch queen after all.

He did beat the witch queen after all.

Can you honestly look back on the whole thing and tell me he would have beaten the witch queen had she been flinging poo from day-1?

Ziggy calculates, .^C1111100011% chance. If she can retain 49% of Democrats by flinging poo, forgive me for being a little concerned when (R)s are calculated in...

If that happens I'm also going to personally call out every asshole on Fark who biatches about the election but didn't actually vote.

Man -- you would have to be a twisted f'ck to have enough motivation to wade through these political threads.. while simultaneously being too lazy to vote.

Neurochemist: Ziggy calculates, .^C1111100011% chance. If she can retain 49% of Democrats by flinging poo, forgive me for being a little concerned when (R)s are calculated in...

Nice QL reference.

No big deal. Just John being John.

McCain truly is the political version of Manny.

Neurochemist: IMHO, Obama damn well better pickup a VP who is a poo-flinging SOB.

I pick Biden, he will wear out the opposition

Not a bad article, but nothing in it I didn't know already.

Its Op-Ed. Were you expecting some investigative journalism?

Interesting article actually. whether one is liberal or conservative it is pretty easy to tell that in this election cycle McCain has become a kind of gaffe-machine. His lack of media exposure is actually helping him. The less people see of him now the more they can expect him to be the senator he was 10 years ago. He's better off being a faceless center-right candidate than having all of his embarrassing moments receiving real media scrutiny, not to mention the fact that he looks like a corpse during speeches.

Love Boat: Cartoon


I fail to see what this cartoon has to do with the topic at hand. It seems to be a hyperbolic ethical attack. With all the disinformation being thrown about these days, do we really need this kind of rhetoric?

Add something of value to the discussion, please.

Vote McCain

people ignore old people....BIG BREAKTHROUGH THERE....

Only thing missing there was a mention of The Donut Incident. Good job, writer guy.

McCain's super-secret plan: Say so many stupid things that he can accuse the media of bias if they covers his gaffes, and accuse them of bias anyway if they doesn't cover him.

If McCain hasn't thought of it by now, his handlers certainly have.

Ive never in my life seen an election like this. Between two people that I loath so much.

At least it should be entertaining up to the election, I suppose. Still, I feel like I'm going to be like the communists in russia pre-world war II.

If things get bad enough, real change will happen. I don't particularly care which side wins, because it looks like a cluster-f**k of epic proportions regardless.

Hell, it looks like Hillary's doing the same thing. Already setting up for 2012... sad really.

Still, this is one of the best countries on earth to live in, I just hope the pendulum doesn't swing so far as to break the clock before swinging back.

/so tired.

Love Boat: STFU, homo.

Not a member of FARK for even a month, yet so bold. I'm looking forwards to your next insightful and eloquent post.

I repeat my unanswered question from another thread: Shouldn't media outlets be required to disclose that they are for-profit entertainment outlets and not disseminating news?

Occam's Chainsaw: I repeat my unanswered question from another thread: Shouldn't media outlets be required to disclose that they are for-profit entertainment outlets and not disseminating news?

As a former print journalist, I can promise you that the ad people are not sitting in the newsroom deciding what gets reported on. Unless you happen to be owned by News Corp, in which case all bets are off.

Psychohazard: Love Boat: STFU, homo.

Not a member of FARK for even a month, yet so bold. I'm looking forwards to your next insightful and eloquent post.

Oh, he's been on Fark for a lot longer than a month. Just not under that name. He does have a theme going with the alts though, so check your ignore list for a certain pattern.

The 4th estate has officially jumped the shark. They failed us in the run up to the war (a war for profit) and now they are playing a dangerous game by manipulating the narative to keep it a close race for rating's sake.

For all the things i've seen done to this country, it's people, and it's children... Fraking traitors, the lot of em.

Can we please get some coverage of McCain's involvement in the Enron loophole? The same loophole that has a direct effect on gas speculation.

The oil companies who control the price of gas through that loophole have shown that if we let them drill off our coasts they will lower that price. It's like torture, they promise to stop hurting us if we give them what they want. Bush lifted the executive ban and they lowered it, just to show us how it works.

We are getting a damn good roggering and the people who can make a buck off it don't give a damn.

El_Dan: Occam's Chainsaw: I repeat my unanswered question from another thread: Shouldn't media outlets be required to disclose that they are for-profit entertainment outlets and not disseminating news?

As a former print journalist, I can promise you that the ad people are not sitting in the newsroom deciding what gets reported on. Unless you happen to be owned by News Corp, in which case all bets are off.

I was once employed by News Corp, and they got around that problem by not actually having a news room, just revenue generating departments, and contracting out the rest (that's where I was for those two months).

/I'm not sure if I'm exaggerating or not
//I certainly wouldn't call what The Sun prints "news" anyway
///Be sure to genuflect as you pass the picture of the Glorious Leader on your way out of the Wapping offices...

Occam's Chainsaw: I repeat my unanswered question from another thread: Shouldn't media outlets be required to disclose that they are for-profit entertainment outlets and not disseminating news?

Perhaps.

Mr Logo: Occam's Chainsaw: I repeat my unanswered question from another thread: Shouldn't media outlets be required to disclose that they are for-profit entertainment outlets and not disseminating news?

Perhaps.

Unfortunatly the "people" are too damn lazy or stupid to figure it out for themselves.

El_Dan: As a former print journalist, I can promise you that the ad people are not sitting in the newsroom deciding what gets reported on. Unless you happen to be owned by News Corp, in which case all bets are off.

Print media are usually a bit better about it than the 24-hour "news" outlets. Sure, they suffer from editorial bias and cherry-picking pieces to woo their target subscriber base. We can worry about them specifically when the Washington Post / WSJ / NYT's front page is nothing but editorials, position pieces, and fluff pieces.

The article kind of lost me at the part that said McCain was mean for calling Obama out for being completely wrong on the surge and followed it up by saying he doesn't get called out on his mistakes. Every time McCain stutters it's trotted out as an example that he's a senile old man. I saw an article the other day that Obama misspoke not because he was inexperienced, but because he was tired from the campaign. He needs a rest so that he can be fresh and not screw up. If he's that tired from a campaign, what's he going to do in negotians with Iran? Take a nap time out? It was those simple stupid mistakes that Kennedy made that let the USSR think they could put nukes in Cuba and led to the Cuban missle crisis.

Obama is a freaking gaffomatic. Between his 57 primaries, his bringing 51 state governors together, bringing freaking campaign posters to the Western Wall in Israel but couldn't think to bring a damn head covering? McCain somehow was able to remember that headcovering's aren't optional at the Wall and brought his own, but Obama needs to grab one from the tourist box.

Obama had a great week, but his headline achivement was to get Maliki to agree on a 16 month timetable. Maliki said that 16 months he'd have things wrapped up and the US would be out during his last election, 18 months ago. The senior government officials in parlaiment and the military all say that the Iraqi government wont be able to do a 16 month time table. They're all looking at 5-8 years before they can completely secure the internal situation without US assistance and almost 10 years before they can handle full security from external threats (invasions).

Magruda: Unfortunatly the "people" are too damn lazy or stupid to figure it out for themselves.

Yeah, but I can't actually see it happening. The media is a powerful lobby, and they wouldn't take kindly to being forced to clarify that they are for profit orginisations all of the time.

ricbach229:
This type of intellectual dishonesty from people like you are what's starting to piss me off. Your statement is full of half truths and O'Reily style spin, and you damn well know it.

ricbach229: The article kind of lost me at the part that said McCain was mean for calling Obama out for being completely wrong on the surge and followed it up by saying he doesn't get called out on his mistakes.

It must have lost you here because it didn't happen in the dman article.

Mr Logo: Magruda: Unfortunatly the "people" are too damn lazy or stupid to figure it out for themselves.

Yeah, but I can't actually see it happening. The media is a powerful lobby, and they wouldn't take kindly to being forced to clarify that they are for profit orginisations all of the time.

They shouldn't have too, we should just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem fix itself. Darwin style.

Love Boat: STFU, homo.


Your guess was incorrect. It's unfortunate that even given a 50/50 shot, you still can't get anything right.

But please, do continue bandying about these delicious verbal barbs. Your wit is exceptional.

ricbach229: Every time McCain stutters it's trotted out as an example that he's a senile old man.

Yes, on Fark. I have yet to see that insinuation made in the MSM.

Magruda: They shouldn't have too, we should just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem fix itself. Darwin style.

I guess then people wouldn't be so complacent, so they would actually question the media.

burndtdan: doesn't count, he's black, he's obviously in the tank for obama

90% + says that is a FACT.

\Any exceptions merely prove the rule.

Mr Logo: I guess then people wouldn't be so complacent, so they would actually question the media

People are so stupid they need a warning label that reads "Hot when heated" to avoid burning themselves. What ever happend to natural selection where the kid that swallows the most marbles does not get to grow up and have kids of his own?

/Quoting a Bill Marh a bit there.

NYZooMan: burndtdan: doesn't count, he's black, he's obviously in the tank for obama

90% + says that is a FACT.

\Any exceptions merely prove the rule.

Or maybe that just makes him the least likeliest person to betray his own kind? If only we'd all remember that we're all human. Well some of us anyway.

Why does he get off so easily on the savings and loan stuff? The "Gooks" comment? The 'Bomb Iran' "joke"?

/I respect the hell outta the suffering the man endured for his/my country's efforts to globally flatten our world to trade.

Griffington: Love Boat: STFU, homo.


Your guess was incorrect. It's unfortunate that even given a 50/50 shot, you still can't get anything right.

But please, do continue bandying about these delicious verbal barbs. Your wit is exceptional.



Stewie?

Why should I care about some New York nagger's opinion? He only got his panties in a twist about the comment regarding Obama rather losing a war than a political campaign because it was true. Obama makes John Kerry look as stubborn as a mule.

inconnu: Why should I care about some New York nagger's opinion? He only got his panties in a twist about the comment regarding Obama rather losing a war than a political campaign because it was true. Obama makes John Kerry look as stubborn as a mule.

I'll give it a 7/10... the Kerry crack was nice. "Nagger" was overplaying it, should've used elitist. Had you worked "appeaser" in there somewhere, you'd be shooting for 10/10.

I don't really have anything against McCain, but what's his appeal? Why would anyone vote for him? He's a party man. He's obviously not a leader. He doesn't have ideas. He's not intelligent. He's like a poor man's Bob Dole except less weird looking and with a military background (maybe dole did too, i don't know). I'm not saying Obama's black jeebus, but he's someone you can look up to. or at least look in the eye. He's not a deal soul. And McCain's running the same old ass ugly campaign.

blah blah. i got nuthin.

goodbomb: I don't really have anything against McCain, but what's his appeal? Why would anyone vote for him?

That R next to his name.
The color of his opponent's skin.
Gerontological activism.

goodbomb: I don't really have anything against McCain, but what's his appeal? Why would anyone vote for him? He's a party man. He's obviously not a leader. He doesn't have ideas. He's not intelligent. He's like a poor man's Bob Dole except less weird looking and with a military background (maybe dole did too, i don't know). I'm not saying Obama's black jeebus, but he's someone you can look up to. or at least look in the eye. He's not a deal soul. And McCain's running the same old ass ugly campaign.

blah blah. i got nuthin.

Bob Dole says, "BOB DOLE!"

/wake me in time to vote
//zzzzzzz

Hey, did Love Boat manage to get banninated?

It's pretty obvious that McCain needs to have Lieberman as his VP pick, so he can stand behind McCain and whisper all the correct answers into his ear.

I wonder if McCain can have him on stage during the debates?

Seriously, if Lieberman was there, we wouldn't have McCain forgetting we have a war in Afghanistan and referencing countries that haven't existed in more than a decade in recent events.

inconnu: Why should I care about some New York nagger's opinion? He only got his panties in a twist about the comment regarding Obama rather losing a war than a political campaign because it was true. Obama makes John Kerry look as stubborn as a mule.

But when shrub sticks to his guns despite all evidence to the contrary you would call him "resolute".

Whether or not Obama is right about the surge or not, accusing him of treason and murder is vile and disgusting, especially from this supposed man of honor who promised to run a clean campaign.

He has lost any shred of decency and honor he ever had.