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(Discovery) Followup Apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell clarifies his UFO comments -- by making more of them   (dsc.discovery.com) divider line 216
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Jon Snow [TotalFark] 2008-07-27 01:49:11 AM  
This is trolldom. Who the fark cares?

 
Underwater Bystander 2008-07-27 02:33:33 AM  
I'm sure he's also very knowledgeable on the topics of water fluoridation, chem trails, and 9/11 truth.

 
ypsifly 2008-07-27 02:36:27 AM  
But James McDivitt proved there are no UFOs when Greg admitted it was just a modified flashlight, a blanket, and a crazy little whistle.

 
Wasted Pixels 2008-07-27 02:40:44 AM  
Underwater Bystander: I'm sure he's also very knowledgeable on the topics of water fluoridation, chem trails, and 9/11 truth.

Don't forget the one about how we've never been to the moon!

 
Senor Awesome 2008-07-27 02:41:17 AM  
Dr. Mitchell is a Great American, but we do not share his opinions on this issue.

 
TheGreyPiper 2008-07-27 02:41:32 AM  
Odd. So many billions of taxpayer dollars being spent on the search for extraterrestrial life by 'mainstream' science, which does not acknowledge one iota of physical evidence that it even exists, just plays the numbers game with all the certainty of Joe Blow at the corner store getting his daily fix of lottery tickets: "There's gotta be a winner in here somewhere!"

Along comes a man who has actually been in space, to the moon and back, was one of the original astronauts, and maybe--just maybe--is in a positin to actually know something extraordinary about the whole 'life on other worlds' question . . . and he is dismissed out of hand as a crank.

What's wrong with this picture?

 
shamp 2008-07-27 02:41:34 AM  
X-files promotion?

 
simian04 2008-07-27 02:42:17 AM  
Four trolls in a row? Is that a Fark record?

 
robbiedo 2008-07-27 02:42:46 AM  
What "if" this guy isn't a psycho? Before the batshiat, diaper,kidnapper astronaut, I would have given even more credence to a report like this. I thought NASA really did outstanding psych screening on these people.

I just don't trust the government in the honesty department. Look what happened to the Ark of the Covenant? So, I am kind of mixed on this whole thing.

 
ceramics 2008-07-27 02:44:09 AM  
Cool, smear and dismiss the guy.

 
TheGreyPiper 2008-07-27 02:44:26 AM  
farm4.static.flickr.com

 
Oakland A's FTW! 2008-07-27 02:44:45 AM  
FTFA: "Later -- and I'm making this long story short -- with some discovery and some help from scientists at Rice University in Houston, I discovered in ancient transcripts that this type of experience -- a transformational, transcendental experience where you see things as you perceive them but experience them viscerally and emotionally as one, as a part of it -- is called samadhi"


I have experienced this phenomenon under the influence of mushrooms.
Very intense.

 
Pope George Ringo [TotalFark] 2008-07-27 02:47:13 AM  
Dr. Mitchell has a Ph.D. from MIT and was a Navy pilot on aircraft carriers. He also flew the lunar module and landed on the moon with Alan Shepard, the first American in space.

/just a fyi
//what have you done lately?

 
Hastor 2008-07-27 02:47:47 AM  
Aha! So Dennis Kucinich was right!

 
Wasted Pixels 2008-07-27 02:48:03 AM  
ceramics: Cool, smear and dismiss the guy.

How many batshiat crazy ideas does he have to buy into before you would dismiss him?

 
maxheck 2008-07-27 02:48:37 AM  
TheGreyPiper:

Along comes a man who has actually been in space, to the moon and back, was one of the original astronauts, and maybe--just maybe--is in a positin to actually know something extraordinary about the whole 'life on other worlds' question . . . and he is dismissed out of hand as a crank.

How is he in a better position to "actually know something extraordinary about the whole 'life on other worlds' question" when even he admits that he's just repeating something he claims to have heard from someone else?

 
Oakland A's FTW! 2008-07-27 02:48:58 AM  
Wasted Pixels: ceramics: Cool, smear and dismiss the guy.

How many batshiat crazy ideas does he have to buy into before you would dismiss him?


Totalfark.

 
cryptozoophiliac 2008-07-27 02:50:49 AM  
Senor Awesome: Dr. Mitchell is a Great American, but we do not share his opinions on this issue.

Sir, your awesomeness is called in to question by the lack of tilde in your handle.

-1

 
Smeggy Smurf 2008-07-27 02:53:27 AM  
In a followup for next week his daughter is going to wed a Grey and prove once and for all there are aliens. And chupacabras are alien dogs, crop circles are alien punks tagging our planet and Elvis shot JFK.

/I'll shut up now

 
Fano 2008-07-27 02:53:30 AM  
robbiedo: What "if" this guy isn't a psycho? Before the batshiat, diaper,kidnapper astronaut, I would have given even more credence to a report like this. I thought NASA really did outstanding psych screening on these people.

I just don't trust the government in the honesty department. Look what happened to the Ark of the Covenant? So, I am kind of mixed on this whole thing.


What do you mean? The Ark is being investigated by TOP men.

 
spleendingo 2008-07-27 02:54:27 AM  
More people believe in UFO's than Jesus. And there's just as much proof for both.

 
Senor Awesome 2008-07-27 02:55:13 AM  
cryptozoophiliac: Senor Awesome: Dr. Mitchell is a Great American, but we do not share his opinions on this issue.

Sir, your awesomeness is called in to question by the lack of tilde in your handle.

-1


Fail. Fark doesn't allow tildes in usernames.

/I know
//I tried

 
Oakland A's FTW! 2008-07-27 02:56:08 AM  
Smeggy Smurf: In a followup for next week his daughter is going to wed a Grey Gray and prove once and for all there are aliens. And chupacabras are alien dogs, crop circles are alien punks tagging our planet and Elvis shot JFK.

/I'll shut up now


/RtfY

 
Wombatzu 2008-07-27 02:57:40 AM  
the astronaut is sticking it in your Weltanschauung...

/ha ha

 
rhiannon [TotalFark] 2008-07-27 02:57:45 AM  
"Fail. Fark doesn't allow tildes in usernames."

Damn good reason for that. Tildes brought down the towers.

 
Fano 2008-07-27 02:58:07 AM  
Oakland A's FTW!: Wasted Pixels: ceramics: Cool, smear and dismiss the guy.

How many batshiat crazy ideas does he have to buy into before you would dismiss him?

Totalfark.


Linus Pauling won a damn Nobel prize, but his Vitamin C experiments are BS. Hm, Shockley also has some crazy ideas.

Don't pull the "Appeal to authority fallacy" for batshiat insane ideas from an educated person.
Art Bell Art Bell Art Bell Art Bell

 
Your_Huckleberry [TotalFark] 2008-07-27 02:59:28 AM  
Holy crap, did Colin Cowherd on ESPN radio rip this guy to shreds the other day. Not like that means much, but he really,really went after this man.

 
S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H. 2008-07-27 03:00:40 AM  
Good man. Tell'em how it is.

 
stirfrybry 2008-07-27 03:01:16 AM  
TheGreyPiper: Odd. So many billions of taxpayer dollars being spent on the search for extraterrestrial life by 'mainstream' science, which does not acknowledge one iota of physical evidence that it even exists, just plays the numbers game with all the certainty of Joe Blow at the corner store getting his daily fix of lottery tickets: "There's gotta be a winner in here somewhere!"

Along comes a man who has actually been in space, to the moon and back, was one of the original astronauts, and maybe--just maybe--is in a positin to actually know something extraordinary about the whole 'life on other worlds' question . . . and he is dismissed out of hand as a crank.

What's wrong with this picture?


cognative dissonance and confirmation bias. I can't imagine who would be credible if this guy fails the test.

 
Onager 2008-07-27 03:01:54 AM  
img1.fark.net beats img1.fark.net, I guess.

 
yagottabefarkinkiddinme 2008-07-27 03:02:54 AM  
Apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell is tired of the anal probing from teh ghey greys, is mad as hell, and won't take it anymore.

 
Wasted Pixels 2008-07-27 03:12:11 AM  
Fano: Linus Pauling won a damn Nobel prize, but his Vitamin C experiments are BS. Hm, Shockley also has some crazy ideas.

Don't pull the "Appeal to authority fallacy" for batshiat insane ideas from an educated person.
Art Bell Art Bell Art Bell Art Bell


So let me get this right.

All we have from this guy is his word that his claims are true.

No evidence.

No supporting witnesses.

Just his insistence that his second-hand information is true.

But we're not allowed to take the overall nature of his character into account when determining whether or not we should indeed be willing to take his word for it?

You, sir, want to believe, and that is behavior contrary to good science and good judgment.

 
technicolor-misfit 2008-07-27 03:13:22 AM  
TheGreyPiper - Odd. So many billions of taxpayer dollars being spent on the search for extraterrestrial life by 'mainstream' science...

Along comes a man who has actually been in space, to the moon and back, was one of the original astronauts, and maybe--just maybe--is in a positin to actually know something extraordinary about the whole 'life on other worlds' question . . . and he is dismissed out of hand as a crank.

What's wrong with this picture?



stirfrybry - cognative dissonance and confirmation bias. I can't imagine who would be credible if this guy fails the test.


Someone with evidence?

 
LordJiro 2008-07-27 03:14:38 AM  
spleendingo: More people believe in UFO's than Jesus. And there's just as much proof for both.

UFOs exist, there's no question: People see things in the air that they, personally, can't identify. Now, alien spacecraft...that's another story.

Senor Awesome: cryptozoophiliac: Senor Awesome: Dr. Mitchell is a Great American, but we do not share his opinions on this issue.

Sir, your awesomeness is called in to question by the lack of tilde in your handle.

-1

Fail. Fark doesn't allow tildes in usernames.

/I know
//I tried


I figured it was a Homestar Runner reference.

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2008-07-27 03:15:21 AM  
TheGreyPiper: Odd. [snip for space]
Along comes a man who has actually been in space, to the moon and back, was one of the original astronauts, and maybe--just maybe--is in a positin to actually know something extraordinary about the whole 'life on other worlds' question . . . and he is dismissed out of hand as a crank.

What's wrong with this picture?


Because first of all, just because he has "actually been in space," doesn't automatically give him unusual knowledge about anything except how to pilot an Apollo spacecraft to and from the moon, how to stay alive in a spacesuit, and how to perform the tasks NASA trained him to perform. Would you say being a certified deep-sea diver automatically put someone in a position of knowing something extraordinary about life under the ice on Europa?

Second, he didn't have any physical or recorded experiences on the moon or on the way back that made him believe in extraterrestrial life. By his own admission, he had "a personal, visceral" experience, "that molecules of matter in my body and in the spacecraft and in my partners' bodies were made in some ancient generation of stars. That's where matter is created...accompanied by bliss, an ecstasy I had never experienced." Not only is this not a unique idea (Sagan said it first), but this sort of epiphany is common after long periods of isolation and sensory deprivation.

Finally, again by his own admission, Mitchell is not repeating his own experiences of alien contact, but that of others, and usually second or third hand experiences. "My major knowledge comes from what I call the old-timers, people who were at Roswell and subsequent who wanted to clear the things up and tell somebody credible even though they were under severe threats and things -- this was back in the Roswell days." Roswell allegedly occurred in 1947, over sixty years ago. It is in no way current information, and has been thoroughly contaminated by media, memory, and time.

So why is he dismissed out of hand? You tell me.

 
technicolor-misfit 2008-07-27 03:16:03 AM  
I've been in Nevada, that doesn't mean I know what goes on at "Area 51."

 
iaazathot 2008-07-27 03:16:25 AM  
spleendingo: More people believe in UFO's than Jesus. And there's just as much proof for both.

Actually, I would have to say there is more evidence of UFOs, they exist and are on record. Now, are they alien? Well, that is another story.

Direct and verifiable sightings of UFOs, thousands, direct and verifiable sightings of Jesus, not so many.

 
cryptozoophiliac 2008-07-27 03:18:05 AM  
rhiannon: "Fail. Fark doesn't allow tildes in usernames."

Damn good reason for that. Tildes brought down the towers.


My tilde took me money and run Venezuela.

 
TheStaffAce 2008-07-27 03:20:44 AM  
I have a feeling that ALL of the first astronauts were probably given several psychedelic drugs. Whether they knew it or not. It's not like it was 2009 when we put men on the moon.

 
Danger Avoid Death 2008-07-27 03:21:14 AM  
rhiannon: "Fail. Fark doesn't allow tildes in usernames."

Damn good reason for that. Tildes brought down the towers.


You can't stack anything on a tilde without it wobbling.

 
Only_A_Lad 2008-07-27 03:21:46 AM  
His evidence is basically, "This guy I met told me there were aliens at Roswell, and one time I did some drugs with students at Rice."

shiat, if that's all it takes to be given an interview on Discovery, I want that chick from Mythbusters over at my house right the fark now. I'll "answer" her "questions" like Buzz Aldrin's fist upside a conspiracy nut's head.

 
Purity Of Essence 2008-07-27 03:22:10 AM  
Underwater Bystander: I'm sure he's also very knowledgeable on the topics of water fluoridation, chem trails, and 9/11 truth.

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face? You know when fluoridation first began? Nineteen hundred and forty six. How does that coincide with your postwar commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard core commie works.

 
aerojockey [TotalFark] 2008-07-27 03:24:36 AM  
It was a streetlight.

 
tonygotskilz 2008-07-27 03:25:40 AM  
Oakland A's FTW!: FTFA: "Later -- and I'm making this long story short -- with some discovery and some help from scientists at Rice University in Houston, I discovered in ancient transcripts that this type of experience -- a transformational, transcendental experience where you see things as you perceive them but experience them viscerally and emotionally as one, as a part of it -- is called samadhi"

I have experienced this phenomenon under the influence of mushrooms.
Very intense.


THIS THIS THIS

I came here to say exactly that! I can't say i believe the guy cause he does sound batshiat crazy, but i've gotta say he sounds to be me like he believes every word he's saying.

/Scary

 
Only_A_Lad 2008-07-27 03:30:22 AM  
Purity Of Essence: Underwater Bystander: I'm sure he's also very knowledgeable on the topics of water fluoridation, chem trails, and 9/11 truth.

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face? You know when fluoridation first began? Nineteen hundred and forty six. How does that coincide with your postwar commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard core commie works.


Fantastic. It's a rare moment when one's login can be used for spectacular effect. That takes dedication and foresight. Bravo.

 
maxheck 2008-07-27 03:33:42 AM  
Only_A_Lad:

Fantastic. It's a rare moment when one's login can be used for spectacular effect. That takes dedication and foresight. Bravo.

You really can't blame him.

 
Im_Just_An_Ordinary_Panda 2008-07-27 03:36:23 AM  
It is a bit more extreme than just secondhand accounts of Roswell if he actually got a confirmation in a meeting at the Pentagon. If he is telling the truth on that piece of information, that's worth 10 times the Roswell stories in my book.

 
Flt209er 2008-07-27 03:38:28 AM  
cryptozoophiliac: My tilde took me money and run Venezuela.

img404.imageshack.us

 
gatetree 2008-07-27 03:49:28 AM  
What about the nurses?

 
crak_rabbit 2008-07-27 03:55:26 AM  
www.ksco.com

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