Hey how about all those American flags waving across Europe instead of being burnt when Obama visited? That was something wasn't it?

at least the media doesn't let an Obama gaffe lay on the editing room floor and substitute a different answer that doesn't make him look so deranged and incorrect. twice. in the same week.
Or run 10 yr old video and pictures of him to make him appear younger.
Or mention that he's flipping on Iraq,Iran and Afghanistan to Obama's postition all the while screaming Obama's wrong and wants us to lose the war so he can win.

but hey the media loves Obama.

Just admit it old man. you tried to box him in on this Iraq trip and it backfired and now you're pissed so you blame the media

what a dick

someone should put together a complication of Mccains creepy smiles and awkward moments.

Everytime I've seen him speak I've had a moment of sadness for the guy. Moments before his "obama would rather lose a war then lose an election" comment he started talking with his microphone upside down.

a bit later he was trying to joke about him saying Czechoslovakia. It was like watching SNL in 1982. you heard a cough and someone sneeze and he just stood there smiling like he made a pottie for the first time.

he's going to get destroyed in the first debate.

The only agenda `the media' has is to sell a story. That's their only bias in general.

nekom: The only agenda `the media' has is to sell a story. That's their only bias in general.

And in the absence of a story, they'll gleefully create one from whole cloth.

Kind of surprising it took this long for someone to notice.

It was a good video, clever -- albeit flattering of Obama -- which makes no sense if you want to beat him in an election.

This is about as brilliant as using a Frankie Valli song from 1967 to criticize media love for Obabma on his overseas tour.

1967? Really?

Not that McCain is old, or anything...

McCain was against Obama's timetable before he was for it ^{(^)}

but to hear McCain tell it Obama is wanting us to lose even though they're on the same page now. On Afghanistan,Iraq and Iran McCain has come around to Obama's wrong and naive judgement. If Obama pulls em out in 16 months it's surrendering. when McCain pulls em out in 16 months it's a win.
and even though Obama's judgment to not go in to Iraq in the first place was the right one he still can't match up to the foreign policy juggernaut that is John "Bomb Bomb Iran" McCain.


See it's that clear.

Occam's Chainsaw: And in the absence of a story, they'll gleefully create one from whole cloth.

Well they can't get too creative or they wind up embarrassing themselves, but they'll make sure they've got something sexy to run.

Occam's Chainsaw: nekom: The only agenda `the media' has is to sell a story. That's their only bias in general.

And in the absence of a story, they'll gleefully create one from whole cloth.

And I suspect that is why they haven't destroyed McCain. It would ruin the election for the media.

I'm starting to think Obama is more or less already running our foreign policy. Ms Rice is going to vote for him, and Bush is too stupid or disinterested to show her where to go.

Fox is running old footage of him as "happening now" to make him appear younger.

CBS corrects his gaffes twice in the same week

The state dept and defense dept try to cause problems with Obama's trip. trying to make it appear that he snubbed the troops.
And good little footsoldier neocon Andrea Mitchell is proud to push that meme this morning on the Today show even though the DoD has said they told them not to come just hours before they were supposed to arrive. After they had cleared it. They suddenly changed their mind like the state dept when they forbade their overseas employees from attending or assisting Obama's engagements. But it was ok when McCain was doing it.

I wish the press would cover McCain just like they do Obama and crawl up his arse with a microscope. Lets see his thesis and his wife's tax papers. Ask him why he isn't wearing a flag pin or does he love his country as much as George Bush?

Hobodeluxe: Fox is running old footage of him as "happening now" to make him appear younger.

CBS corrects his gaffes twice in the same week

There's so much fail in that image...


I wonder if the "Beat the Press" folks over at Greater Boston (on WGBH) know Fox is using their name? I doubt it's a copyrighted phrase, but Greater Boston has been using that phrase for years.

I like McCain's web site, it has lots of nice pictures of Obama on its homepage. Only one of McCain, though. Confusing.

Sammy Jenkins: Maybe the Media is paying attention to Obama BECAUSE HE'S FARKING DOING THINGS instead of hanging out in grocery stores. Do you think that might have something to do with it?

maybe he could get a purple heart if he was hurt by the applesauce avalanche in the line of duty.

(not really I just want the right to feel how absurd this kind of attack is. their little mockery of sacrifice and service at their last convention should wear like a badge of shame forever around their necks. I find it worse than flag burning myself)

Hobodeluxe: *media rant*

I hope and pray that this election cycle, and the piss poor job the media's done of grooming it into something it's not, will be the death knell for traditional media sources. I know, odds are that the majority idiots will continue to stare blankly at the idiot box while it tells them what to believe, but I can hope, can't I?

I'm not one for any form of censorship, but shouldn't media outlets be required to disclose that they're for-profit entertainment sources and not actually disseminating news?

dbirchall: I like McCain's web site, it has lots of nice pictures of Obama on its homepage. Only one of McCain, though. Confusing.

it's the way the GOP works. On hate. they don't run on what they have done they run against the demonized image they've painted of the evil liberals. They play themselves off as victims of a liberal elite class that is out to destroy America. These educated latte drinking self important homos are out to turn America into a socialist dictatorship like Hugo Chavez.

and the sheep eat it up

Hobodeluxe: they don't run on what they have done they run against the demonized image they've painted of the evil liberals.

...And democrats don't do the exact same thing to church going, gun loving, cousin marrying, war mongering conservatives?

dbirchall: I like McCain's web site, it has lots of nice pictures of Obama on its homepage. Only one of McCain, though. Confusing.

They know what the people want!

way south: Hobodeluxe: they don't run on what they have done they run against the demonized image they've painted of the evil liberals.

...And democrats don't do the exact same thing to church going, gun loving, cousin marrying, war mongering conservatives?

No. No they don't. Democrats don't run on a platform of hating the opposition.

The Right Wing has entire media outlets, publishing houses, 'churches' and Think Tanks designed to do one thing. Hate Liberals and spread the hate of Liberals.

the Obamaessiah (tm) is gonna get owned in November.

/I can't wait

Democrats don't run on a platform of hating the opposition.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[breath]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hate Liberals and spread the hate of Liberals.

that's nonsense - because you a-holes don't even admit to BEING liberals in the first place. you're all just "disenchanted america-loving defenders of democracy" or something. you know, war is wrong and all (when a republican is president).

This really is a sad election season. McCain has absolutely nothing to run on. What about McCain would persuade you to vote for him? Do people really want a senile old man running the country? I'm not a freak about Obama but he is leaps and bounds ahead of McCain in electability. We hear all this crap about Obama's silver tongue and that he's all style with no substance. But really, what do you think the presidency is about? It's no longer a position for a general, it's a position for a well-spoken businessman. That's what the American people have made it into.

The country is not run by one person and while the president still does have some great power, we're remolding the position into that of a figurehead. Whoever we elect is going to be representing us to the entire world. I don't want someone in the office whose nursemaid has to follow him everywhere to wipe the spittle from his lips. I want someone young, educated, engaging, someone who knows how to use the resources given and draw from the experiences of those around him. Obama is that guy and McCain is not.

jgi: The country is not run by one person and while the president still does have some great power, we're remolding the position into that of a figurehead. Whoever we elect is going to be representing us to the entire world. I don't want someone in the office whose nursemaid has to follow him everywhere to wipe the spittle from his lips. I want someone young, educated, engaging, someone who knows how to use the resources given and draw from the experiences of those around him. Obama is that guy and McCain is not.

Very true. The president is effectively the face of America.

DarnoKonrad: No. No they don't. Democrats don't run on a platform of hating the opposition.

Really? You don't pay attention much do ya?

way south: And democrats don't do the exact same thing to church going, gun loving, cousin marrying, war mongering conservatives?

the GOP exploits those people. they use their wedge issues to drive them to the polls. guns,God and gays is their platform all built on the fight against evil liberalism meme. they don't do anything for the little guy. what did Bush and the Republican run congress do that benefited you? a little tax cut? Does it equal your share of the debt it incurred? Unless your tax cut was equal to 30k then it wasn't. And this mortgage bailout is going to be another big one. These guys made out like bandits for years and now we cover their ass cause they got drunk and the GOP was serving the drinks. Poor Spitzer he crossed the wrong guys. He got sloppy but he had them in his sights.

Bush has all other organized crime bosses beat hands down. His benefactors/clients have reaped a huge treasure and they're going to get away with it. That's how good and liberal our media is.

DarnoKonrad: No. No they don't. Democrats don't run on a platform of hating the opposition.

I think theres more than enough written and photographic evidence to show that the left wing tries to vilify the right just as much. They might use the internet more than the radio, but the intended result is the same.
I also don't think its a secret that the Democrats are running on the unpopularity of Republicans more than on anything they have accomplished in recent years.

If both sides had avoided using their attack machines we would not only have a differently shaped election, but also different primary candidate winners.

Both the McCain and Obama campaigns have one thing in common, they are both all about Obama.

remus: DarnoKonrad: No. No they don't. Democrats don't run on a platform of hating the opposition.

Really? You don't pay attention much do ya?

That's some pretty damning evidence right there.

keylock71: I wonder if the "Beat the Press" folks over at Greater Boston (on WGBH) know Fox is using their name? I doubt it's a copyrighted phrase, but Greater Boston has been using that phrase for years.

- Beat-the-Press is from MSNBC
- that's not the name of the show (IIRC it's Verdict w/ Dam Abrams)
- only a segment in the show
- not sure if that matters
- lives just outside Boston

McCain's new ad ^{(^)}

Say you were running a newspaper and you wanted to increase circulation.
Would you
a) Follow a young charasmatic leader on a trip to the middle east and Europe, meeting with the most powerful people from that region.

or

b) Go to the cheese isle at the local safeway to film an old man, who has a geography problem.

Quit your whining GOP, your candidate is just lame.

way south:

I think theres more than enough written and photographic evidence to show that the left wing tries to vilify the right just as much.

I disagree. Democrats can disagree with Republican policies without calling the opposition traitors.

It's become very fashionable to just claim both sides do it -- but they don't (new window).

The Left just doesn't engage in pure hate at nearly a fraction of what the Right does.

remus: DarnoKonrad: No. No they don't. Democrats don't run on a platform of hating the opposition.

Really? You don't pay attention much do ya?

Really? Coming from a Farker with the alias 'Remus'? (new window)

DarnoKonrad: Really? Coming from a Farker with the alias 'Remus'? (new window)

I actually wanted romulus(p), but it was taken already by an even earlier farker. Had never heard of uncle remus at the time.

dbirchall: I like McCain's web site, it has lots of nice pictures of Obama on its homepage. Only one of McCain, though. Confusing.

damnit you made me go to mccain's website hoping that was true. i counted 6 pics of mccain, zero of obama.

It's kinda hypocritical of McCain to keep bashing the press about paying so much attention to Obama when he himself is spending more time talking about Obama than McCain.

I find it real funny that the Republicans are making the same big mistake that the Dems made in 04. You need people supporting your candidate not just opposing the other guy. Anybody But Bush didn't work in 04 and Nobama is not going to work in 08.

log_jammin: someone should put together a complication of Mccains creepy smiles and awkward moments.

Rolls of video tape generally only go for 120 minutes.

DarnoKonrad: It's become very fashionable to just claim both sides do it

Only by one side, however. I think they're called Independents now.

enry: keylock71: I wonder if the "Beat the Press" folks over at Greater Boston (on WGBH) know Fox is using their name? I doubt it's a copyrighted phrase, but Greater Boston has been using that phrase for years.

- Beat-the-Press is from MSNBC
- that's not the name of the show (IIRC it's Verdict w/ Dam Abrams)
- only a segment in the show
- not sure if that matters
- lives just outside Boston

Ah, yes... I see the little MSNBC in the corner now... Technically I think Beat the Press is only the friday segment on Greater Boston, as well. Though I believe Greater Boston was doing it before MSNBC, but yeah, it doesn't really matter as I don't get any financial gain from either show segment.

Hobodeluxe: applesauce avalanche

that was hilarious

Dumbasses. You'd think that would be one of the first things on their minds.

I'm still calling a mulligan on this campaign.

Can we have a do-over please?

Four more months of this crap and I'm gonna end up voting for Nader or Barr.

I can't stand either McCain or Obama.

One's a has been, the other's a never should have been.

way south: Hobodeluxe: they don't run on what they have done they run against the demonized image they've painted of the evil liberals.

...And democrats don't do the exact same thing to church going, gun loving, cousin marrying, war mongering conservatives?

Actually, no, they don't. Sure, you'll hear that caricature a lot from left-leaning friends or from fringe organizations like moveon.org, but mainstream Democrats running for office don't do that. Heck, Obama is pretty liberal, and he's run one of the cleanest campaigns ever.

But with the Republicans, perpetuating the image of the hippie communist latte-sipping abortion doctor terrorist-sympathizer librul is downright conventional.

Thanks to GOP policies, we now have $4 gas, sprawling war debt, a crashed economy, stripped individual freedoms, record foreclosures, massive federal services failure and an ocean of lies -- all to the benefit of the fattest fatcats since J.P. Morgan stood astride the globe like a Colossus.

With a record like that, pretty much the only angle you can take is that your opponent is somehow worse.

DarnoKonrad: remus: DarnoKonrad: No. No they don't. Democrats don't run on a platform of hating the opposition.

Really? You don't pay attention much do ya?

Really? Coming from a Farker with the alias 'Remus'? (new window)

You know what's awesome? You just did the exact opposite you said that the Democratic Party does. Wow... you should seriously just stop posting, unplug your computer, and throw it out the window.

The Billdozer: You know what's awesome? You just did the exact opposite you said that the Democratic Party does. Wow... you should seriously just stop posting, unplug your computer, and throw it out the window.

How is pointing out that "Remus" has racist and backwards connotations "hating the opposition", exactly?

Most people's primary association with Remus is not one of the founders of Rome.

Obdicut: Most people's primary association with Remus is not one of the founders of Rome.

Well, that's a sad statement. I'd never heard of the other one until after I moved down here to Georgia; I'd have chosen another name if I'd have known or ever heard of it. I guess growing up in the midwest you don't hear of that guy.

remus: Well, that's a sad statement. I'd never heard of the other one until after I moved down here to Georgia; I'd have chosen another name if I'd have known or ever heard of it. I guess growing up in the midwest you don't hear of that guy.

It's not all that sad, really-- knowing some American history is probably more relevant than knowing Roman mythology. Sorry you're stuck with the name-- it'll probably not be the last time someone thinks you mean the Uncle Remus association, and assumes racism.

No one wins the presidency by pretending that our enormous and heterogeneous media world is 'biased'. Reporters are in love with eyeballs, but they never support one party or the other in lockstep.

It's a national campaign, folks. There are a zillion news outlets cranking out a zillion words a day. If they're talking bad about you, the problem is you and not them. McCain is setting himself to lose angry rather than making a true play for centrist voters.

and right on cue love boat proves our point