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(I Heart Chaos) Interesting IHC smuggles out the REAL Obama prayer note from the Wailing Wall. Ignore that other one, that was just for show   (iheartchaos.com) divider line 41
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SpeshilEdjukashin [TotalFark] 2008-07-25 09:19:05 PM  
Poop thread?

 
HansensDisease [TotalFark] 2008-07-25 09:23:44 PM  
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vincentpriceisdead 2008-07-25 09:36:06 PM  
I know this one is a joke, but it's just vile that someone took his real note. I'm not a praying person, but that just seems wrong to me.

 
dj4aces [TotalFark] 2008-07-25 09:52:45 PM  
This is effing retarded.

 
SpinStopper [TotalFark] 2008-07-25 09:54:59 PM  
Oh. How funny. Ha. Ha. Ha.

 
Slim Pickens 2008-07-25 10:03:11 PM  
tee hee

They have 9-year-olds writing their stuff?

 
The Icelander [TotalFark] 2008-07-25 11:17:05 PM  
vincentpriceisdead: I know this one is a joke, but it's just vile that someone took his real note. I'm not a praying person, but that just seems wrong to me.

Because god can't hear him if someone else has his note! God's not omnipotent or anything!

 
The Icelander [TotalFark] 2008-07-25 11:20:14 PM  
Obligatory

Trillions and trillions of prayers every day asking and begging and pleading for favors. ´Do this´ ´Gimme that´ ´I want a new car´ ´I want a better job´. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday. And I say fine, pray for anything you want. Pray for anything. But...what about the divine plan? Remember that? The divine plan. Long time ago god made a divine plan. Gave it a lot of thought. Decided it was a good plan. Put it into practice. And for billion and billions of years the divine plan has been doing just fine. Now you come along and pray for something. Well, suppose the thing you want isn't in god's divine plan. What do you want him to do? Change his plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a divine plan. What's the use of being god if every run-down schmuck with a two dollar prayer book can come along and fark up your plan? And here's something else, another problem you might have; suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? ´Well it's god's will. God's will be done.´ Fine, but if it gods will and he's going to do whatever he wants to anyway; why the fark bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me. Couldn't you just skip the praying part and get right to his will?"

 
vincentpriceisdead 2008-07-25 11:28:21 PM  
The Icelander: Because god can't hear him if someone else has his note! God's not omnipotent or anything!

I don't mean anything like that, (well, I'm an atheist, for one), but it just seems icky.. like someone stealing Britney Spears' therapy records or something.

 
Mentat [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:19:20 AM  
This is just getting pathetic.

 
ambassador_ahab [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:19:43 AM  
vincentpriceisdead: I don't mean anything like that, (well, I'm an atheist, for one), but it just seems icky.. like someone stealing Britney Spears' therapy records or something.

While I agree with your general point, I seem to be having trouble with the analogy. I don't care about Britney Spears' therapy records, but that would be a major violation of a variety of patient-privacy laws.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:23:47 AM  
well, it's true. Lieberman does need to STFU

 
Falcc 2008-07-26 12:24:41 AM  
ambassador_ahab: vincentpriceisdead: I don't mean anything like that, (well, I'm an atheist, for one), but it just seems icky.. like someone stealing Britney Spears' therapy records or something.

While I agree with your general point, I seem to be having trouble with the analogy. I don't care about Britney Spears' therapy records, but that would be a major violation of a variety of patient-privacy laws.


Praying can be theraputic.

/Oh god please don't shoot me
//Well, god didn't shoot him

 
RemyDuron 2008-07-26 12:24:42 AM  
Eh, it's kind of funny. I like the stroke bit. Michelle in a threesome was too obvious, and "tee hee" and other such juvenile shiat much better befits comedy about George W Bush than Barrack Obama. People are going to need to write new jokes for Obama, not just recycle Bush jokes. People could get away with recycle some Clinton jokes for Bush, not sure it will work like that this time around.

Much better fake Obama prayer would be him either A. criticizing God in a highly rhetorical manner or B. speaking as if he was an equal to God. Elitist fits Obama badly, but its better than 12 year old idiot.

Daily Show has been knocking 'em down for a week or two of great jokes about Obama, no need to drop to offensive or nasty levels to do them.

 
voodoochild 2008-07-26 12:24:50 AM  
green?

really?

really really?

jew ninja?

wtf?

/?

 
RemyDuron 2008-07-26 12:25:18 AM  
Falcc: ambassador_ahab: vincentpriceisdead: I don't mean anything like that, (well, I'm an atheist, for one), but it just seems icky.. like someone stealing Britney Spears' therapy records or something.

While I agree with your general point, I seem to be having trouble with the analogy. I don't care about Britney Spears' therapy records, but that would be a major violation of a variety of patient-privacy laws.

Praying can be theraputic.

/Oh god please don't shoot me
//Well, god didn't shoot him


All placebos can be.

 
The guy at the end of the thread 2008-07-26 12:25:55 AM  
farm2.static.flickr.com

/ recycled
// still got nothing.

 
Pernicus 2008-07-26 12:29:20 AM  
okay jew ninja made me laugh

 
rga184 2008-07-26 12:29:31 AM  
RemyDuron: All placebos can be.

oh jeebus, get over yourself.

the note was private, and didn't affect or harm anybody in anyway. That is reason alone to leave it and respect his privacy. whether or not you believe in his God is irrelevant. He could have been praying to the tiny mitochondria inside his hepatocytes, and you still have no right to read that note. Get it?

 
ambassador_ahab [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:32:45 AM  
Falcc: Praying can be theraputic.

I'm not suggesting I think it is or isn't. But last time I checked, there weren't federal laws to protect the privacy of your, or anybody else's prayers. If God wants to tell me what you prayed for, tough shiat for you. If I hear you pray, you can't call the cops. I just get to hear it. Good for me.

On the other hand, shiat would hit the fan if somebody stole your doctor's records (and I'm not even talking therapy, just like the person that gives you a physical once a year.)

 
lolmadillo 2008-07-26 12:33:06 AM  
The Icelander: Because god can't hear him if someone else has his note! God's not omnipotent or anything!

whats it like there, that far away from the point?

 
Donald_McRonald 2008-07-26 12:45:42 AM  
Wow, finally a place where I can ask this hypothetical:

Media-wise, what would happen if John McCain shiat himself in a public forum? I mean, how would the media even begin to talk about a thing like that?

 
ambassador_ahab [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:49:51 AM  
Donald_McRonald: Media-wise, what would happen if John McCain shiat himself in a public forum?

It would be like: He shait himself for the glory of USA. A true patriot doesn't stop important presidential work to drop a deuce. A great president would blast that dookie right there at the press conference, and keep talking.

 
lolmadillo 2008-07-26 12:52:56 AM  
Donald_McRonald: Media-wise, what would happen if John McCain shiat himself in a public forum? I mean, how would the media even begin to talk about a thing like that?

it'd get as much coverage as the gaffes that demonstrate his failures at things that actually could have an effect on his ability to be president

 
The Great Gazoo 2008-07-26 01:07:38 AM  
Yep, kinda predictable. But Jew Ninja did give me a chuckle.

 
boozerman 2008-07-26 01:25:59 AM  
The Great Gazoo: Yep, kinda predictable. But Jew Ninja did give me a chuckle.

Jew ninja made me actually LOL. I loved it, worth the tripe before it.

 
Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 01:45:24 AM  
vincentpriceisdead: I know this one is a joke, but it's just vile that someone took his real note. I'm not a praying person, but that just seems wrong to me.

It does violate the intent, and it seems wrong to make money (I'm sure the student did) off something like that... until you realize that it's a piece of paper with carefully thought-out words that are appropriate for a campaigner to say about God, left in a public place. Obama made sure to put something down that would be press-worthy.

What - do you think all those notes stay there forever? Think about it - there would be millions. Billions, very quickly. They're gathered and destroyed. Their sole value is as a tool of fantasy for the writer that his imaginary friend is bigger, better, and badder than everyone else's imaginary friend. The rabbis know the true value as they dispose of them.

 
RemyDuron 2008-07-26 02:03:49 AM  
rga184: RemyDuron: All placebos can be.

oh jeebus, get over yourself.

the note was private, and didn't affect or harm anybody in anyway. That is reason alone to leave it and respect his privacy. whether or not you believe in his God is irrelevant. He could have been praying to the tiny mitochondria inside his hepatocytes, and you still have no right to read that note. Get it?


Woh. . . I never said anything about the note. I don't care about the note. It's a scummy thing to do, stealing and publishing the note. I don't care for Obama's apparently genuine religious beliefs and I'd be more comfortable voting for him if he didn't ever bring them up, that's all.

I was just responding to the idea that prayer is a good thing because it's theraputic. It's just as theraputic as a sugar pill.

 
RemyDuron 2008-07-26 02:05:39 AM  
ambassador_ahab: Falcc: Praying can be theraputic.

I'm not suggesting I think it is or isn't. But last time I checked, there weren't federal laws to protect the privacy of your, or anybody else's prayers. If God wants to tell me what you prayed for, tough shiat for you. If I hear you pray, you can't call the cops. I just get to hear it. Good for me.

On the other hand, shiat would hit the fan if somebody stole your doctor's records (and I'm not even talking therapy, just like the person that gives you a physical once a year.)


IIRC, communication with a religious figure is just as protected as Patient-Doctor and Attorney-Client communication. It can't be compelled in court. That's what Law and Order taught me at least.

Anyway, it's pointless because no one is saying this should be illegal. Just that it's a scummy thing to do.

 
TheGreyPiper 2008-07-26 02:23:43 AM  
Someone should tell Amb. Ahab that since this occured in Israel, there are no Federal laws covering anything. And that he should get to bed, 'cuz Mummy and Dad are going to be home soon.

 
Shvetz 2008-07-26 05:36:13 AM  
There could have actually been a funny joke here, but it never materialized. Sorry, that was just juvenile and not funny. Poop! Sex! Eh...

 
guesser 2008-07-26 06:14:11 AM  
That was stupid. The mods must be bored, (or 13 years old).

 
NYZooMan 2008-07-26 06:27:30 AM  
guesser: That was stupid. The mods must be bored, (or 13 years old).

They've aged?

 
OttoDog 2008-07-26 06:48:39 AM  
Anybody know what eventually happens to all the bazillion prayers shoved in the Wall? If none of them were EVER removed, the whole damn thing would be papier-mache by now.

 
Rethorn 2008-07-26 07:04:06 AM  
RemyDuron: I was just responding to the idea that prayer is a good thing because it's theraputic. It's just as theraputic as a sugar pill.

Or as therapeutic as talking about how wrong religion is on the internet?

/We get it
//You don't believe in god
///No one farking cares
////Shut the hell up
///Not you in particular
//Fark Atheists in general
/Slashies

 
globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 08:34:04 AM  
Dear Barack,
Hayden Panettiere has already put out her list and Michele is not on it. I am not giving Sen McCain a Stroke the poor bastard has been through enough. Seriously I gave you the ability to talk an eskimo into buying ice, WTF more do you want.

God.

 
Ikam 2008-07-26 10:03:48 AM  
globalwarmingpraiser: Seriously I gave you the ability to talk an eskimo into buying ice, WTF more do you want.

Hehe. Good one.

 
globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 10:06:51 AM  
Ikam: globalwarmingpraiser: Seriously I gave you the ability to talk an eskimo into buying ice, WTF more do you want.

Hehe. Good one.


I try

 
Ghastly [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 11:23:02 AM  
Ninjew would have been funnier than Jew Ninja.

 
brantgoose 2008-07-26 05:34:49 PM  
Why can't he just text message his prayers to the Wall like a real Jew? Sticking paper into Walls--that's just so XXth century. And the carbon miles! Somebody's got some a-toning to do, Lucy!

 
Walosi 2008-07-27 09:50:12 PM  
OttoDog: Anybody know what eventually happens to all the bazillion prayers shoved in the Wall? If none of them were EVER removed, the whole damn thing would be papier-mache by now.

They are removed and buried twice a year.

 
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