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(Some Guy) Obvious Israeli General travels to Washington, says its crucial to block Iranian goals for nuclear weapons and to depose Saddam Hu... err.. Ahmadinejad from power   (wiredispatch.com) divider line 40
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Party Boy [TotalFark] 2008-07-25 09:18:22 PM  

 
dj4aces [TotalFark] 2008-07-25 10:12:59 PM  
Israeli Lt. Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi, on his first visit to Washington as Israel's top military officer, said Wednesday it was crucial to block what he called "Iranian aggression" in the Middle East.

Fight your own farking war. We're engaged in one already.

 
sarcastrophe 2008-07-25 11:33:47 PM  
dj4aces: Fight your own farking war. We're engaged in one two already.

 
I_Love_Cheesecake 2008-07-25 11:34:06 PM  
Israel could wipe Iran off the map, if it wanted. It's a nuclear power and possesses one of the most advanced militaries in the world. If it's so worried about Iran, then it can damn well start the war itself.

 
KaponoFor3 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-07-25 11:36:07 PM  
dj4aces: Fight your own farking war.
I_Love_Cheesecake: Israel could wipe Iran off the map, if it wanted. It's a nuclear power and possesses one of the most advanced militaries in the world. If it's so worried about Iran, then it can damn well start the war itself.

Be careful what you ask for -- the Israelis might just give it to you.

 
Andric 2008-07-25 11:38:23 PM  
TFA: "I believe it is therefore crucial that we block Iranian aggression..."

You guys have fun with that, then.

 
Big Dave 2008-07-25 11:39:53 PM  
Cue the usual farkers who'll tell us it's racist to question the Israeli government's influence on the US government

 
trouzourt [TotalFark] 2008-07-25 11:46:30 PM  
dj4aces: Fight your own farking war. We're engaged in onetwo already.

FTFY

 
Calvin Coolidge 2008-07-25 11:48:46 PM  
I_Love_Cheesecake: Israel could wipe Iran off the map, if it wanted. It's a nuclear power and possesses one of the most advanced militaries in the world. If it's so worried about Iran, then it can damn well start the war itself.

... And give the U.S. the fabulous gift of $8.00 a gallon gas!

 
trouzourt [TotalFark] 2008-07-25 11:50:06 PM  
img329.imageshack.us

/too much ?

 
Custer 2008-07-26 12:02:10 AM  
Oh Goody!

A draft, a 5 cent dollar, and 25 dollar a gallon gas!

I've got a good stock of garden seeds and fishhooks if anybody needs any!

 
GoodasGold 2008-07-26 12:04:11 AM  
Israeli General travels to Washington, says its crucial to block Iranian goals for nuclear weapons to give Bush his new orders and pickup state secrets from his pentagon spies.

 
Andric 2008-07-26 12:04:51 AM  
Custer: Oh Goody!

A draft, a 5 cent dollar, and 25 dollar a gallon gas!

I've got a good stock of garden seeds and fishhooks if anybody needs any!



That sounds all right, actually. If a dollar is worth 5 cents, then 25 dollar a gallon gas only really costs a quarter! Score!

/how many fish hooks can I get with a pint of petrol?

 
wildcardjack 2008-07-26 12:10:02 AM  
You want to make Iran a friendly nation? Make their oil worthless.

In the late 90's, during the Asian economic meltdown, Iran was becoming downright friendly. Hell, we even sent over a greco-roman wrestling team who received a warm welcome.

The key factor to international peace is to make transportation fuels independent of region. If India and China could make their own fuels there wouldn't be the push in oil markets.

 
Jambuu 2008-07-26 12:12:51 AM  
Please Iran, PLEASE nuke Israel. It is the final, and only solution to bringing about world peace.

/true story

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:14:29 AM  
trouzourt: /too much ?

ashtrey?

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:20:28 AM  
Jambuu: WHARRGARBL

www.wikihow.com

 
That_Dude 2008-07-26 12:20:58 AM  
Jambuu: Please Iran, PLEASE nuke Israel. It is the final, and only solution to bringing about world peace.

/true story


Well, I guess if everyone dies in nuclear war there will be world peace...

/nuclear warfare is not a good thing
//and don't think it will stop with Iran/Israel
///we will get involved, then Russia, and then everyone dies

 
Party Boy [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:24:27 AM  
Israel's Debate Over an Iran Strike (Time | Jul. 24, 2008)
Despite Israel's top-notch air force, launching a long-range strike against a multitude of hidden targets in Iran entails huge risks and uncertain rewards. At most, say Israeli intelligence sources, an attack - which Israel would undertake with only a nod and perhaps logistical support from the U.S. - is likely to stall Iran's program by just a year or two. And that makes the cost-benefit analysis weigh against an air strike on Iran, according to some senior Israeli officials who urge caution.


US Pentagon doubts Israeli intelligence over Iran's nuclear programme (Telegraph | Jul 2008)
"The Americans had spies in Iran until they were rounded up in 2003 and now they do not have much by way of humint [human intelligence] on the ground. The Israelis have better information. But the Americans went away from the meetings unconvinced that the Israelis have enough intelligence on where to strike, and with little confidence that they will be able to destroy the nuclear programme."

The shortage of good intelligence could explain reports that President George W Bush has quietly sanctioned a dramatic increase in covert operations by American special forces inside Iran. These intelligence gaps lay behind Admiral Mullen's decision to speak out on Wednesday against military action, saying it would be "extremely stressful" to "open a third front" in the war on terror. But the admiral is at odds with hawks in the Bush administration, led by Vice-President Dick Cheney.

A former CIA officer with three decades of Iranian experience said: "Their belief... is that the US would get the blame from Iran whether or not we play a major role in any attack, so we might as well do the job properly."


Shadow of war looms as Israel flexes its muscle (Guardian | June 29, 2008)


Israel Prodding U.S. To Attack Iran (CBS | June 24, 2008)

 
EL_FABREZ 2008-07-26 12:25:39 AM  
That_Dude: Jambuu: Please Iran, PLEASE nuke Israel. It is the final, and only solution to bringing about world peace.

/true story

Well, I guess if everyone dies in nuclear war there will be world peace...

/nuclear warfare is not a good thing
//and don't think it will stop with Iran/Israel
///we will get involved, then Russia, and then everyone dies



Well you glass Israel and you can't rebuild the Third Jerusalem Temple for a very long time. Hopefully then Christians won't have to constantly worry about the Rapture.

Well that's my hope, erm, idea anyways

 
GoodasGold 2008-07-26 12:28:46 AM  
Bucky Katt: Jambuu: WHARRGARBL

God you're a pig. I hope the mods delete that.

 
GoRedSoxGo 2008-07-26 12:31:30 AM  
Yep, fark Israel. Do it your own damn selves.

 
Mr Logo 2008-07-26 12:36:36 AM  
If the US government just stopped bullying Iran, they would elect a less conservative leader.

/isn't it ironic that our conservatives don't like 'our enemies' to have conservative leaders
//if that is the meaning of irony

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:38:57 AM  
said Wednesday it was crucial to block what he called "Iranian aggression" in the Middle East.

Translation: "We're rattling our sabers as hard as we can to push our agenda of Israel against Islam, which we've been pressing for the last 5000 years now, and which finally the world is paying attention to. It's just a question of whether or not America is going to honor our rhetoric of 'you're either with us or you're against us' one more time; because this time we're ready to go thermonuclear on their asses."

Israel wants to demolish the Arabs at least as much as Islam wants to destroy Israel, and America needs to understand that THEY HATE EACH OTHER; we can let them fight their own war but we have two very large armies out there in Mesopotamia right now, and if Israel is sent out to pursue its own agenda on Iran, it might be prudent to remove all our troops and interests everywhere between Egypt and Pakistan right now, because there won't be much left after except a lot of radioactive camel sh*t.

 
The guy at the end of the thread 2008-07-26 12:39:42 AM  
nationalepic.com

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:42:08 AM  
Gyrfalcon: said Wednesday it was crucial to block what he called "Iranian aggression" in the Middle East.

Translation: "We're rattling our sabers as hard as we can to push our agenda of Israel against Islam, which we've been pressing for the last 5000 years now, and which finally the world is paying attention to.


Islam hasn't existed for 5000. At any rate, Islam is no more a monolith than is Christianity. Get a glass of water and calm down.

 
Party Boy [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 12:43:23 AM  
Israel's slap in the face from America (Haaretz | Jul 23, 2008)
Israel gives the impression that it was completely unprepared for the recent dramatic switch in American policy toward Iran. The Bush administration did not consult with Israel before deciding to add a senior American diplomat to the talks the Europeans are conducting with the Iranians, nor did Washington inform Jerusalem of its intentions to open an interests section in Tehran. The Prime Minister's Bureau received word of America's new policy almost at the last minute, just in order to ensure that Israel would not be taken totally by surprise. If clandestine diplomatic feelers between Washington and Tehran preceded the announcement, Israel was left completely in the dark as to their existence.

The American "detente" with Iran has one obvious consequence: As long as the diplomatic game continues, there is not the slightest chance in the world of any aggressive action being taken against Iran's nuclear program. Which means no bombing of nuclear facilities. And no naval blockade and no prevention of commercial flights from Iran, as Israel has proposed. If even a minor-ranking American diplomat is posted in Tehran, to ostensibly "speak with the people," the Iranian regime will enjoy total immunity.

Israeli leaders are still hoping that all is not lost, that America is merely making a strategic move here, that Washington is simply dangling a bit of diplomatic bait that will be doomed to fail but which can pave the way for a military strike. But all that is simply wishful thinking. The American public has no stomach today for an additional war and its army opposes the idea of opening up a "third front" in Iran, after Afghanistan and Iraq.
...snip..

 
TaGirl_Keri 2008-07-26 12:46:44 AM  


The guy at the end of the thread :

Darn, My history thinks it was mostly Saudi Arabians on 911, but it couldn't be as they're our bestest friends. Like they play kissies with our president

 
GoRedSoxGo 2008-07-26 01:13:16 AM  
The guy at the end of the thread : lol, I'm hoping that's just satire.

 
HowlingFrog [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 01:19:45 AM  
Israel can eat a bowl of dicks.

 
Aarontology [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 01:20:20 AM  
TaGirl_Keri: The guy at the end of the thread :
Darn, My history thinks it was mostly Saudi Arabians on 911, but it couldn't be as they're our bestest friends. Like they play kissies with our president


That's how they slip in the roofie.

 
Party Boy [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 01:38:06 AM  
Also
This recent State Dept. / Neocon fight is akin to the State dept/neocon fight before Iraq[1][2][3] (except, this time, it looks -so far- like State has won out)
--
plus, my favorite
A furious row has broken out over claims in a new book by BBC broadcaster James Naughtie that US Secretary of State Colin Powell described neo-conservatives in the Bush administration as 'farking crazies' during the build-up to war in Iraq.

 
Party Boy [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 01:40:30 AM  
Party Boy: ..akin to the State dept/neocon fight before Iraq[1][2][3]..

/fixed link

 
Al Hashshashin 2008-07-26 02:04:10 AM  
You know, I can see this whole mess ending badly.

These idiots are gonna get our oil all radioactive and shiat.

/a lead lined fuel tank is not going to help my Hummers gas mileage.

 
limeyfellow 2008-07-26 02:12:22 AM  
Oh please, Israel couldn't even deal with a third world militia and paramilitary in Lebanon last year, let alone Iran. They would be biatching for bombs and ammunition again after a couple of weeks.

Israeli military tactics require quick wars that are over in days or massive support to be shipped and flown in or they get in real trouble. If their competition wasn't so sucky and forced into wars against each other through the cold war for several decades things would probably be far more equal.

 
trouzourt [TotalFark] 2008-07-26 02:22:03 AM  
Bucky Katt: trouzourt: /too much ?

ashtrey?


grrrr... ashtray ...
and "its as many as you want ... "

 
Sum Dum Gai 2008-07-26 03:04:40 AM  
How can you depose Ahmadinejad from power? Wouldn't that require that he actually HAS power to begin with?

I mean, he has some degree of authority within his own nation, but he's got no power when it comes to military or foreign policy; all that is in Khameni's hands.

 
ilambiquated 2008-07-26 04:39:56 AM  
Party Boy The funny thing is the Bush is doing exactly what the Republicans were cursing Obama as an "appeaser" for just a few weeks before.

Looks like Obama is ALREADY running the foreign policy.

 
TappingTheVein 2008-07-26 04:48:39 AM  
limeyfellow: Oh please, Israel couldn't even deal with a third world militia and paramilitary in Lebanon last year, let alone Iran

So you're comparing fighting against guerilla warfare with people hiding among civilians and using them as shield, while not posing any real threat to Israel's existence with, well, the exact opposite on all fronts.

Israeli military tactics require quick wars that are over in days or massive support to be shipped and flown in or they get in real trouble

I agree with the quick war thing in a large scale Army Vs. Army warfare but i think you should do a little reading on Israel's history especially about a large scale war that happened 60 years ago regarding your second remark.

 
wolvernova 2008-07-26 09:50:59 AM  
I_Love_Cheesecake: Israel could wipe Iran off the map, if it wanted. It's a nuclear power and possesses one of the most advanced militaries in the world. If it's so worried about Iran, then it can damn well start the war itself.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they attacked Iran, as farking stupid as that is. Iran won't ever allow Israel to be nuked, but I understand what a bunch of hawkish assholes are in charge in Israel.

If they attack and subsequently our economy falls apart, I hope Israel feels it harder than anybody else. No more allowance money, and good luck getting those F22's in the air without spare parts.

And hopefully we can expel AIPAC from this country.

 
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