no crist or jindal? i'm skeptical of the list.

/but either way, pick lieberman. i hear having him on your presidential ticket is a sure win.

Powell would never do it. That list sucks.

burndtdan: no crist or jindal? i'm skeptical of the list.

Crist has the gay thing. Jindal got pretty damaged by the exorcism thing just as people were trying to find out who he is.

burndtdan: no crist or jindal? i'm skeptical of the list.

/but either way, pick lieberman. i hear having him on your presidential ticket is a sure win.

Jindal had a press conference two days ago saying he wasn't going to run as VP, which is fine by me, because he still has a lot of work undoing the damage wrought upon our state by his insipid predecessor.

Isn't Palin dealing with a scandal right now?

baorao: Isn't Palin dealing with a scandal right now?

Yep... she is pretty much out of contention because of abuse of power allegations (new window)

FTFA: Powell has also been mentioned as a wild-card VP pick for Democrat Barack Obama, along with U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb.

Yeah, "mentioned" exclusively by idiots in the press. I think the odds of either of those being Obama's VP pick are only slightly better than my odds of being picked VP.

Powell? Yeah, right. Obama's going to pick another black guy for the ticket, and a Republican one at that. That'll really score him lots of points across the entire political spectrum, huh?

Hagel? Other than his Iraq position, he's an ultra right-winger. Way to really shore up support among his base--to pick a guy who makes Ronald Reagan look like a flaming liberal to be the guy who's a heartbeat away from the presidency. And he's a guy who even the righties don't like any more, now that he's had the audacity to be critical of the little adventure in Iraq.

Nobody except drooling retard talking heads in the media views either of these as even being slightly in the running. Na. Ga. Happen.

Nabb1: Jindal had a press conference two days ago saying he wasn't going to run as VP, which is fine by me, because he still has a lot of work undoing the damage wrought upon our state by his insipid predecessor.

Bingo. Jindal withdrew his name recently.

Here are the Bodog Sports odds to win the election:

McCain +175
Obama -240

I think the Obama odds are pretty good, if I were to bet I'd lay down the max on Obama.

Here's the odds for McCain's VP pick:

Crist -- 6/1
Powell -- 75/1
Lieberman -- 15/1
Huckabee -- 6/1
Romney -- 5/4
Palin -- 5/1
Pawlenty -- 3/1

Anyone think there is value in any of those picks?

KaponoFor3:Anyone think there is value in any of those picks?

Pawlenty might not be a bad bet at 3/1.

Jaboobinator: Powell would never do it. That list sucks.

This. I get the impression that Powell wants nothing further to do with public life at this point.

Cyberluddite: Pawlenty might not be a bad bet at 3/1.

That's what I'm thinking as well. Romney is too obvious, and while he would help with the economy, it might further alienate the hardcore Christian Conservative wing of the GOP to nominate a Mormon.

Pawlenty appears to be a good value bet.

Romney: Non-starter, McCain personally dislikes him and the religious right is still none to pleased with him.
Pawlenty: A pretty good choice... but there are a lot of Minnesotans that blame him for the I-35W bridge collapse (probably unfairly) but it will make for an awful unpleasant questions on the campaign.
Lieberman: Loses McCain the PUMA vote that he was hoping to exploit (nearly every Democrat can agree that they don't like Lieberman).
Powell: A very good choice, too bad he is rooting for the other guy.
Palin: Another great choice, unfortunately a recent abuse of power scandal has made her untouchable.
Ridge: A decent choice with a lot of powerful domestic credentials that are hard to knock... but he is pro-choice, something that the religious right is not going to forgive easily.

KaponoFor3: while he would help with the economy,

How? Why? When people talk about Romney "helping on the economy" I can't help but wonder if they are smoking crack.

He ran in MA on that, and utterly failed. He lost jobs, industries and consumer confidence. He did everything he could to push any scientific research that would upset fundies out of MA, even though we're all godless heathens.

Just because he made a lot of money in a venture capital scheme doesn't mean he knows Jack shiat about running a national economy.

what_now: How? Why? When people talk about Romney "helping on the economy" I can't help but wonder if they are smoking crack.

He dominated the Utah Olympics and did a pretty good job with that sinkhole of money and efforts.

And even if we look at the facts (which we know the majority of voters don't), the perception with Romney is that he is strong on the economy. And in national elections, perception is oftentimes more important than reality.

Code_Archeologist: Ridge: A decent choice with a lot of powerful domestic credentials that are hard to knock... but he is pro-choice, something that the religious right is not going to forgive easily.

He might help sway Pennsylvania, though. I be willing to bet the religious right would look the other way on a lot of things if they thought they could grab a swing state that went blue in the last election. Ridge could help them do that.

KaponoFor3: He dominated the Utah Olympics

Yes, because everyone knows how much those games were free of scandal.

Code_Archeologist: Pawlenty: A pretty good choice... but there are a lot of Minnesotans that blame him for the I-35W bridge collapse (probably unfairly) but it will make for an awful unpleasant questions on the campaign.

I'm thinking it will probably be him, he's a very personable guy with a regular-joe, aw-shucks vibe.

As far as the bridge thing, some folks here didn't like the fact that he used his lieutenant governor as head of the MNDOT, and refused to fire her after the problems occurred. She's actually been under fire from the legislature for the state of the infrastructure well before the bridge collapse happened. The legislature later fixed that for him.

And he did win here in 2006, in a very anti-Republican climate. That goes to his credit but it should be noted that while on paper his opponent seemed good, he was a terrible, terrible candidate. Just awful.

KaponoFor3: He dominated the Utah Olympics

In what events?

tallguywithglasseson: KaponoFor3: He dominated the Utah Olympics

In what events?

He got the gold medal in being a smarmy bastard.

please god, not Ridge. Anybody but Ridge.

Pick Lieberman or Powell. The former is a total neocon, the latter has got so much Bush jizz on him from the first term. It's perfect. Romney would be another good one. No Baptist is going to vote for his Mormon ass.

Code_Archeologist: He got the gold medal in being a smarmy bastard.

Well he DID kind of have home field advantage in Utah, him being Mormon and all.

SilentStrider: please god, not Ridge. Anybody but Ridge.

Rumsfeld?
Wolfowitz?
Gonzalez?
A composite Frankenstein of history's greatest villains?

what_now:
How? Why? When people talk about Romney "helping on the economy" I can't help but wonder if they are smoking crack.

He ran in MA on that, and utterly failed. He lost jobs, industries and consumer confidence. He did everything he could to push any scientific research that would upset fundies out of MA, even though we're all godless heathens.

As a fellow godless heathen in MA, well, as a practicing Christian in MA, I totally agree with you. How can anyone in their right mind support this guy?

And he hasn't just flip-flopped -- he changes his stances so radically that his head is spinning faster than Linda Blair in the Exorcist.

They've been testing undecided-voter focus group reactions on:

McCain / Starscream '08
McCain / Escaped Holodeck Professor Moriarty '08
McCain / The Monarch '08

tallguywithglasseson: They've been testing undecided-voter focus group reactions on:

McCain / Starscream '08
McCain / Escaped Holodeck Professor Moriarty '08
McCain / The Monarch '08

McCain/ MecaMcCain '08

tallguywithglasseson: McCain / The Monarch '08

At least with this combination the two ladies that came with them would both be hittable... well as long as something was used to keep them from talking.

The bet here is on Huckabee. We'll see if I'm right.

clgrin: McCain/ MecaMcCain '08

LOL.

I misread that as "McCain / MegaMcCain '08", which made me picture John McCain standing on the podium with a 20-foot tall version of himself next to him, staring down the reporters while eating a campaign staffer.

tallguywithglasseson: clgrin: McCain/ MecaMcCain '08

LOL.

I misread that as "McCain / MegaMcCain '08", which made me picture John McCain standing on the podium with a 20-foot tall version of himself next to him, staring down the reporters while eating a campaign staffer.

Well McCain has been trying to emulate Rosevelts "speak soflty and carry a big stick"... he just needed someone capable of carrying a bigger stick

Powell would get lynched. His chances are smaller than a vial of false testimony.

Cagey B: The bet here is on Huckabee. We'll see if I'm right.

We'll see that you're not.

Control_this: Powell would get lynched.

Racist.

I hope he picks Romney... cause I sure would like to see him humiliated in an election... again.


/MAsshole.

tallguywithglasseson Control_this: Powell would get lynched.

Racist.

Oh no! I didn't notice he was differently raced. Sorry!

Control_this: I didn't notice he was differently raced.

I didn't know you were Stephen Colbert!

Sorry, Joe. Nobody trusts a traitor.

PC LOAD LETTER: Pick Lieberman or Powell. The former is a total neocon, the latter has got so much Bush jizz on him from the first term. It's perfect. Romney would be another good one. No Baptist is going to vote for his Mormon ass.

neither would be a good choice for him as either would neutralize the bigot advantage he has now, nobody who would be willing to cross party lines over a black president would stay willing if they were voting for a black or jewish VP.

My money's on Ridge or Pawlenty. I'd like Powell, but his heart isn't in it any longer.

That's a pretty darn good list. Nobody is really too controversial, except maybe Lieberman.

/Still wants Romney
//It'll probably be Pawlenty

Powell wouldn't accept even if he was asked.

Oh, I'm also very happy to see that Huckabee and Giuliani aren't on that list.

I forget what eight was for: burndtdan: no crist or jindal? i'm skeptical of the list.

Crist has the gay thing. Jindal got pretty damaged by the exorcism thing just as people were trying to find out who he is.

Not to mention the guy is like 10 years younger than even Obama. McCain is running on experience, so he can't have a running mate who is even less experienced. And the last thing McCain needs is to stand beside somebody who will make him look even older.

My money is on Dr. Impossible. He has his own island and CoreFire is missing.

Does this mean that Charlie Crist can now call off the wedding?

Whew. What are the chances Palin would be spared attending Saint McCain's martyrdom! Assuming she is exonerated of the supposed deeds, she'd make a much more attractive candidate - four years from now. It would have been senseless to expend her talents in such an unfavorable year, given she's one of the few Republicans whom the party might be able to rally around once it is banished into the wildness this election. Pick someone who'd be so unremarkable as to suffer no lasting damage whilst McCain is hoisted onto his cross.

moralpanic:

McCain is running on experience, so he can't have a running mate who is even less experienced.




Dan Quayle is Ha Ha Guy in Number II: Part Deux

Pawlenty or Romney seem likely choices to me. Palin would shake things up, but would undercut all of the "experience" crap they keep slamming Obama with. McCain and others keep harping on the "VP must be able to be P" angle. She could be formidable in 2012. This tiny "scandal" will be a distant memory by then, and she could have some big accomplishments and a large group of supporters ready to raise funds for her.

So I hope he picks Palin now, out of panic, and flubs it for both of them. I doubt he will be so stupid as to pick Crist, or any of the others, who would be like an anvil thrown into a raft.

moralpanic: ..the last thing McCain needs is to stand beside somebody who will make him look even older.

Really the only way to get around this would to pick an even older VP, which really wouldn't do much to help his 'born-in-the-stone-age' perception.

Please pick Loserm... I mean Lieberman.

Who really wants to tie the boat anchor of being McCain's VP pick to their political career? Anyone with a future in politics would be smart to not accept.

I have a bottle of Dom that will be chilled and opened in the extremely unlikely event that Lieberman is picked. I may even run door to door to my republican neighbors and laugh at them.

Wow, that's the entire list? Looks like a Whitman's Sampler of suck.

Colin Powell? Seriously?

While he wasn't THE guy on Iraq, he was the guy who delivered the case to go into Iraq...remember when it was about WMD?

Not to mention, I don't think he would want to run with McCain.

Only real viable one I see on that list is Romney.

But the list is probably bupkis anyway, as I think McCain's campaign had to do SOMETHING to counter the Obamamania this week. I doubt this talk about the VP thing was as genuine as it's portrayed.