If you care about the day to day changes in national polling data and you aren't on the payroll of either campaign or nation party, you are an idiot.

Sir Roderick Glossop: If you care about the day to day changes in national polling data and you aren't on the payroll of either campaign or nation party, you are an idiot.

pretty much, this.


BTW- have any official debates been scheduled yet?

Wait, what's the stupid tag for? Are we supposed to think that that's what the article is saying?

Electoral-vote.com has VA dropping into neutral, but has Democrats picking up Oregon and Alaska in the Senate now, 57-43.

Beck Bristow: have any official debates been scheduled yet?

I was wondering about that too. I know they haven't had their conventions yet, nor have either candidate selected a VP but you'd think there would be a preliminary schedule or something. Can't wait to see them.

nekom: Beck Bristow: have any official debates been scheduled yet?

I was wondering about that too. I know they haven't had their conventions yet, nor have either candidate selected a VP but you'd think there would be a preliminary schedule or something. Can't wait to see them.

Commission on Presidential Debates (clicky clicky pop pop)

/you're welcome.

Paying attention to polls this early is pretty silly.

Any bets on how many "poll threads" there will be this week?

3_Butt_Cheeks: Paying attention to polls this early is pretty silly.

Any bets on how many "poll threads" there will be this week?

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OK...let me make sure I have this right. Subby makes random shiite up about what the article says and then declares it stupid based on what he says the article says?

3_Butt_Cheeks: Paying attention to polls this early is pretty silly.

Any bets on how many "poll threads" there will be this week?

Like it or not, it's a decent way to gauge the mood of the country in regards to an election that's less than four months away. I don't think looking at polling this early is a dumb thing at all, as long as you acknowledge that there's plenty of time for things to change.

Hollie Maea: OK...let me make sure I have this right. Subby makes random shiite up about what the article says and then declares it stupid based on what he says the article says?

like you've never been desperate for a greenlight!


/wake me when either announces a VP or when the debates are held...

Obama will win in November.
That is, unless George pulls a fast one and throws us into Iran.

/All our soldiers are being trained on Iran simulations now

What do these polls even mean? Do they ask whether people will vote for Barr? Do they ask how likely people are to vote? Do they count electoral votes?

FeedTheCollapse: like you've never been desperate for a greenlight!

Someone please explain to me this "desperate for a greenlight" thing. Exactly how many US dollars/Internet points is one greenlight worth?

/has three greenlights
//only submits when it's really good

All things considered, how Obama is in a statistical tie with McCain in the poll is beyond me. I was thinking he was 8-10 pts ahead easily.

I couldn't tell what the percentages were because there was a noticeable lack of bar graphs in the article.

GoRedSoxGo: FeedTheCollapse: like you've never been desperate for a greenlight!

Someone please explain to me this "desperate for a greenlight" thing. Exactly how many US dollars/Internet points is one greenlight worth?

/has three greenlights
//only submits when it's really good

For every greenlight, your e-peen grows 1/16th of an inch.

Duh!

RadioAaron: Commission on Presidential Debates (clicky clicky pop pop)

/you're welcome.

First presidential debate:
Friday, September 26
University of Mississippi, Oxford, MS

Oh my... The first new episode of Heroes on Monday, the first presidential debate on Friday, and I'll be on vacation with a sexy redheaded nerdy sci-fi loving political junkie librarian gamer chick that week (yay me! that's enough cliches to make just about anyone happy). It's a good thing we'll have satellite in our cabin, we'd both go nuts if we had to miss that.

Thanks for the info!

GoRedSoxGo: omeone please explain to me this "desperate for a greenlight" thing. Exactly how many US dollars/Internet points is one greenlight worth?

My only ever greenlight got me a month of TF. So...5 bucks if you are super lucky.

Hollie Maea: GoRedSoxGo: omeone please explain to me this "desperate for a greenlight" thing. Exactly how many US dollars/Internet points is one greenlight worth?

My only ever greenlight got me a month of TF. So...5 bucks if you are super lucky.

I got my month of TF from someone who I'd just called a SIF.

3_Butt_Cheeks: All things considered, how Obama is in a statistical tie with McCain in the poll is beyond me. I was thinking he was 8-10 pts ahead easily. crushing McCain in electoral college polls.

FTFY

Pay attention to state polls (especially leaning/swing state polls). That said, I believe Barack has far more electoral votes from "safe" blue states, than McCain does with "safe" red states.

I suspect there will be a few new polls for VA coming out within the next week or so. Up here in Northern Virginia, there's plenty of Obama stickers and signs, but few McCain stickers and signs. Not that I'm surprised by it, of course. I think if Obama wins VA, it'll be the NoVA turnout that puts him over the top. Things are going to get really interesting here.

AkaDad: 3_Butt_Cheeks: All things considered, how Obama is in a statistical tie with McCain in the poll is beyond me. I was thinking he was 8-10 pts ahead easily. crushing McCain in electoral college polls.

FTFY

Gee, thanks for "fixing that for me". I was responding to the article farkwad.

It has to be Obama's new campaign slogan

3_Butt_Cheeks: AkaDad: 3_Butt_Cheeks: All things considered, how Obama is in a statistical tie with McCain in the poll is beyond me. I was thinking he was 8-10 pts ahead easily. crushing McCain in electoral college polls.

FTFY

Gee, thanks for "fixing that for me". I was responding to the article farkwad.

You're welcome. I'm helpful like that.

You're right!

No need for Dems to even bother going to the polls!

/Just like last time.

CustomAndy: All our soldiers are being trained on Iran simulations now

The job of the military is to be prepared for anything.

Canadian and American forces do training against each other in "hostile" exercises to simulate how utterly vicious a Canadian-American war would be, not just to be prepared for such an event but also to train against the best soldiers in the world.

This election is gonna be close, just like the last one. This election is edge of your couch exiciting. Democracy! I just can't get enough of it. What are we going to do in a few more monthes when the excitement ends?

Bored Horde: The job of the military is to be prepared for anything.

Absolutely. That's way we have "plans" for an Iran war. We aren't plotting to attack Iran, but have strategies in place if the situation calls for it.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Bored Horde: The job of the military is to be prepared for anything.

Absolutely. That's way we have "plans" for an Iran war. We aren't plotting to attack Iran, but have strategies in place if the situation calls for it.

Do "we" have plans for an overthrow of a corrupt unconstitutional administration? No? Well before our heroz in the military bomb another country on the other side of the world they should check on that.

3_Butt_Cheeks:
Absolutely. That's way we have "plans" for an Iran war. We aren't plotting to attack Iran, but have strategies in place if the situation calls for it.

I think the Iran situation is really interesting. Israel is being used as an independent attack dog, making many threatening noises. The military is publicly making noises about invasion plans. But the White House is continuously in increasingly better diplomatic contact with Iran.

Maybe someone finally broke it down to Bush + Co. in plain terms that Iran is the best natural ally in the middle east for Israel and America.

I have no doubt in my mind that McCain is going to win this election. Nothing will stop McCain.

Funk Brothers: I have no doubt in my mind that McCain is going to win this election.

I have no doubt in my mind that the moon is made of baloney. Because I believe it, it's a fact.

moops: I have no doubt in my mind that the moon is made of baloney. Because I believe it, it's a fact.

The moon is actually made of cheese in fiction. In real terms, it's composed of rock and ice. Go live with all your Obama supporters in an utopian society right next door to the Ron Paul supporters' utopian society.

Funk Brothers: I have no doubt in my mind that McCain is going to win this election. Nothing will stop McCain.

Nothing will stop him! Not even the voters!

I kinda want some baloney sammiches now. damn you.

Beck Bristow: BTW- have any official debates been scheduled yet?

obama is afraid to debate mccain. he's negotiating to send the teleprompter in his place.

RadioAaron: Commission on Presidential Debates (clicky clicky pop pop)

/you're welcome.

Thanks for the link. Sept. 26 is the first debate? I can't wait. McCain will finally be able to pin Obama down.

vegaswench: Thanks for the link. Sept. 26 is the first debate? I can't wait. McCain will finally be able to pin Obama down.

McCain won't even have a stool to stand on.

vegaswench: Thanks for the link. Sept. 26 is the first debate? I can't wait. McCain will finally be able to pin Obama down.

I'll mark that date down too.

September 26, the beginning of the 'October Surprise' which will lead to McCain's election day win.

vegaswench: McCain will finally be able to pin Obama down.

I still think it's funny how the McCain supporters seem to be more Anti-Obama than Pro-McCain. That strategy worked so well for Kerry in 2004....

Bored Horde: McCain won't even have a stool to stand on.

Chunky or is it creamy that's coming out? At that age, stools can be questionable.

Hopefully the 'moderaters' will be tough and direct, not giving those pansy ass questions like some in the primaries.

The Republicans are hoping McCain will lose. The next president will have a lot of difficult, unpopular decisions to make in order to even make a start on cleaning up the mess left by the Bush administration. In other words, barring a miracle, the next president will only serve one term. The Republicans will be better served by sitting out this election, letting the Democrats take the blame for the inevitable snafu, and making plans for 2012.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Hopefully the 'moderaters' will be tough and direct, not giving those pansy ass questions like some in the primaries.

Sample questions

To Obama: Would you consider Jesse Jackson to head the Department of Education?
To McCain: Do you think America is a nation of whiners?

clambam: The Republicans are hoping McCain will lose. The next president will have a lot of difficult, unpopular decisions to make in order to even make a start on cleaning up the mess left by the Bush administration. In other words, barring a miracle, the next president will only serve one term. The Republicans will be better served by sitting out this election, letting the Democrats take the blame for the inevitable snafu, and making plans for 2012.

Jeb Bush for President?

I'd support that shiat.

i want to see some debates.

clambam: The Republicans are hoping McCain will lose. The next president will have a lot of difficult, unpopular decisions to make in order to even make a start on cleaning up the mess left by the Bush administration. In other words, barring a miracle, the next president will only serve one term. The Republicans will be better served by sitting out this election, letting the Democrats take the blame for the inevitable snafu, and making plans for 2012.

Risky.

America will fall completely in love with a president that meets challenges well. We're so ready for that.

The next guy is going to get that chance - what, does his own party not think McCain's up for it?

Love Boat: McCain will be just fine debating Obama. He'll be even better in the townhall debates that Obama is terrified of.

He can't even debate himself, you worthless troll.
Please don't disapear when Obama wins, it's going to be so much more fun celebrating, while you tards shed those bitter tears.

mesohorny: i want to see some debates.

I want to see some breastages.