Oh, I guess it's ok, grand ol' party hillbillys, this country needs more of your insightful leadership to really succeed!

I love how the article says his comment was "translated incorrectly" and then never gives the "proper" translation.

Leave ? B-b-b-b-but we're still in Germany !!

It was pretty obvious the Bush Administration was going to lean on Maliki to 'clarify' his stance. I'm surprised it took this long.

log_jammin: I love how the article says his comment was "translated incorrectly" and then never gives the "proper" translation.


I would be very interested in knowing what the correct translation was. Did he agree with the plan in general, but is merely trying to avoid the appearance of giving an endorsement to Obama as they note? Or is there more to it than that?

And am I mistaken, or do I sense a whiff of desperation in submitter's headline?

DrBenway: Did he agree with the plan in general, but is merely trying to avoid the appearance of giving an endorsement to Obama as they note?

Thats my guess. A little pressure from Bush probably helped too.

do I sense a whiff of desperation in submitter's headline?

par for the course

This article is useless without the farking 'proper' translation. Just sounds like he's trying to avoid it sounding like an endorsement.

"U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right time frame for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes," Der Spiegel quoted Maliki as saying.

Seems reasonable.

So maybe his words were not plain,
Concerning how long they'd remain?
At least he's not saying
The troops will be staying
For "one hundred years" like McCain.

Echoic: This article is useless without the farking 'proper' translation.

I doubt it was mistranslated. It seems like anytime a ME country has its TV/newspaper/leadership say something stupid or embarrassing they always claim its mistranslated.

I'm exaggerating some but it sure seems like thats the excuse most of the time.

Link

Found this on the KOS (I know, I know): Al-Dabbagh's retraction was released by CentCom. Since when does Iraq speak through U.S. Central Command?

reposted from [thread]

59% of [US] Adults Want Troops Home from Iraq Within the Year

jezz: It was pretty obvious the Bush Administration was going to lean on Maliki to 'clarify' his stance. I'm surprised it took this long.

THIS

Nice try Republicans, but since when do we let other countries tell us when/where we can pull our troops out of a region?

MaxxLarge: So maybe his words were not plain,
Concerning how long they'd remain?
At least he's not saying
The troops will be staying
For "one hundred years" like McCain.

And, at once, a beast became fallow,
Like a river shallow,
In wait for the spring.

I'm thinking someone put pressure on him... I'll wait to see the full translation.

Etchy333: Nice try Republicans, but since when do we let other countries tell us when/where we can pull our troops out of a region?

Since Bush invaded Iraq. "We'll step down when they step up," and all that.

Echoic: Found this on the KOS (I know, I know): Al-Dabbagh's retraction was released by CentCom. Since when does Iraq speak through U.S. Central Command?

That is a much bigger story than the original article. That is an unacceptable misuse of government resources for political purposes.

Etchy333: Nice try Republicans, but since when do we let other countries tell us when/where we can pull our troops out of a region?

Sorry buddy but we need to ask Israel's permission if we can or not.

/Gotta love American politics

But guys,

HOOOOOOOOPE! CHAAAAAAANGE!

Philippe Pétain said a lot of stuff, too.

Who wants to lose their cash cow?

Okay, so I've read the Spiegel interview.

- Maliki says the US troops should leave Iraq "as soon as possible", which certainly gives room for speculation.
- He explicitly says that 16 months sounds about right as a time frame for the withdrawal (once it begins), so that's interpreted as an implicit endorsement of Obama's plan
- He makes clear a complete withdrawal is in the interest of Iraq, generally (and better sooner than later)

If you cut through the usual diplomatic carefulness, it basically comes down to: "I like Obama's plans better, but in case McCain wins, I didn't say anything."

log_jammin

It seems like anytime a ME country has its TV/newspaper/leadership say something stupid or embarrassing they always claim its mistranslated.


انت الابله

it means 'loggy rocks'


REALLY


>.>

<.<

log_jammin: I doubt it was mistranslated. It seems like anytime a ME country has its TV/newspaper/leadership say something stupid or embarrassing they always claim its mistranslated.

I wish someone would wipe all these mistranslations off the face of the Earth.

I love how the headline combines both political smugness and supporting a war that most of both countries wants over immediately. Well done, Submitter, your jackassery has impressed me.

EliteAnalyst: "Iraq's leader doesn't actually support withdrawal"

The one thing Obama has going for him - a pledge to pull the troops out - isn't believable in the slightest, especially since he has kowtowed so eagerly to the "special interest groups" that want America in Iraq. The very next day after he sealed the nomination he was pledging to do "anything" to stop Iran, a sovereign state, from possessing nuclear technology, and he has already backtracked on his one brigade per month withdrawal timetable, months before the election.

McCain and Obama are ultimately beholden to the exact same "special interest groups" who will give either of them the full Watergate\Whitewater treatment if they go soft on warmongering and it is critically important that you Obama supporters understand this.

Obama is a divider. He wants to divide American, Canadian style, into ethnic and gender divisions, each demanding a bigger handout than the next, just like we do up here in Canada. His comtempt of the white race - which granted him such special handouts as an affirmative action hired position as editor of the Harvard Law Review and his wife's 300,000 a year affirmative action hired job, and raised him when his black father abandoned him - is palpable, and if you are a white man or a white woman you are a damned fool for voting for someone who hates your guts as much as he and his kind do.

Dude instead of writing all that bs just call him a nagger and get it off your chest.

at80eighty: انت الابله

it means 'loggy rocks'


REALLY

I'm scared to look that up...

A German drank all my Shiner Heffenweizen at a July 4th BBQ...no love here!

Bring on the Obama babe!

EliteAnalyst: ...if you are a white man or a white woman you are a damned fool for voting for someone who hates your guts as much as he and his kind do.

You're a tiny little man, aren't you?

EliteAnalyst:

it is incredible how you went halfway from making me go "hmm, thats some damn good points to consider " , to , "MAN THE BOATS, MAN THE BOATS, DONT FORGET THE LIFEJACKET"

log_jammin: at80eighty: انت الابله

it means 'loggy rocks'


REALLY

I'm scared to look that up...

The Google says it means "you idiot."

nictamer youre no fun!

EliteAnalyst: He wants to divide American, Canadian style, into ethnic and gender divisions, each demanding a bigger handout than the next, just like we do up here in Canada.

What the blathering christ are you going on about?

/Canadian
//Doesn't think you are

EliteAnalyst: WHARRGARBL

A real life Canadian Freeper?
Wow, who would have thunk it, eh?

nictamer: The Google says it means "you idiot."

the one i found says "you are the father"

...

hey! "I'm the man!"

You don't expect the Iraqis to take control of Iraq, do you?

Der Spiegel stands by their translation, btw.

Echoic: Link

Since when does Iraq speak through U.S. Central Command?

Jeez, you're kidding, right? I would have LOVED to have been a fly on the wall for THAT phone conversation. "Listen, you goddamn camel jockey-take that back or you'll end up swinging on the end of a rope like the last "supporter" we put in power!"

/DRTFA

Random Reality Check [TotalFark] Quote 2008-07-20 07:10:39 AM
EliteAnalyst: WHARRGARBL

A real life Canadian Freeper?
Wow, who would have thunk it, eh?

They do exist. Check back a few years for followers of "The Alliance" and "Stockwell Day"

"Obamaniacs"

That the best you can do?

Maybe this whistledick Chicago Democrat should wait until he's elected to start dictating the policies of the United States.

/just sayin'

EliteAnalyst:

"Iraq's leader doesn't actually support withdrawal"

The one thing Obama has going for him - a pledge to pull the troops out - isn't believable in the slightest, especially since he has kowtowed so eagerly to the "special interest groups" that want America in Iraq. The very next day after he sealed the nomination he was pledging to do "anything" to stop Iran, a sovereign state, from possessing nuclear technology, and he has already backtracked on his one brigade per month withdrawal timetable, months before the election.

McCain and Obama are ultimately beholden to the exact same "special interest groups" who will give either of them the full Watergate\Whitewater treatment if they go soft on warmongering and it is critically important that you Obama supporters understand this.

Obama is a divider. He wants to divide American, Canadian style, into ethnic and gender divisions, each demanding a bigger handout than the next, just like we do up here in Canada. His comtempt of the white race - which granted him such special handouts as an affirmative action hired position as editor of the Harvard Law Review and his wife's 300,000 a year affirmative action hired job, and raised him when his black father abandoned him - is palpable, and if you are a white man or a white woman you are a damned fool for voting for someone who hates your guts as much as he and his kind do.


Watergate? Affirmative action? That's quite a rant, but seriously, you're a freakin' pecan log.

Maybe ... (Obama) should wait til he's elected to start .. policies of the United States

Maybe, but Reagan sure didn't keep his policies quiet in the run-up to 1980's election. Most candidates speak out on what they will do. Its called campaigning.

Guess that rule only applies to Democratic candidates.

ttc2301:

Maybe this whistledick Chicago Democrat should wait until he's elected to start dictating the policies of the United States.

/just sayin'


Offering a plan is now dictating policy, is it? Don't sprain anything stretching so far.

When Nuri al-Maliki's kids are the ones who are being slaughtered over there maybe his opinion will start to matter.

/Opposite of Obamaniacs......War criminals?

Generation_D: Maybe, but Reagan sure didn't keep his policies quiet in the run-up to 1980's election.


You don't say...

whereisian: EliteAnalyst: He wants to divide American, Canadian style, into ethnic and gender divisions, each demanding a bigger handout than the next, just like we do up here in Canada.

What the blathering christ are you going on about?

/Canadian
//Doesn't think you are



I, for one, am quite intrigued to see how this particular conversation ends up.

Maliki: