Hope and change. We need change to change things and hope to hope for things we need to change for change.

Here's a little hopeful gem of change from Portland Oregon...

NSFWish (new window)

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Well in his defense, having beat Hillary and picked up most of her voters, the average IQ of an Obama voter dropped about 30%.

I'm hopeful.

Unlike the McCain slogan of 'Got Viagra?'

Personally, I started to lose interest once the Witch Queen was defeated. Now it's just Mr. Lefty McTaxraise vs Mr. Righty LeSleepysamesame.

congratulations, NRO. after 18 months of lying, digging, crying and whining, you have finally found something that i believe actually reflects negatively on Sen. Obama.

Coincidentally, this is also the least relevant thing that has ever occured in the history of man.

OregonVet: Well in his defense, having beat Hillary and picked up most of her voters, the average IQ of an Obama voter dropped about 30%.

I'm not convinced "picked up most of her voters" is accurate. Remember, no one is gonna pony up and pay Hillarys campaign debts. And Obama is basically snubbing the Dem establishment because he thinks he doesn't need their money. That may be true about the money, but he does need their influence and they aren't going to give it without getting something in return.

GaryPDX: I'm not convinced "picked up most of her voters" is accurate.

Probably true. However here in the rust belt, many are. Most are pissed too: they're unions are telling them Obama and you should hear them exclaim "can you believe I'm going to vote for a farking nubian?!?" Hit any bar in the Toledo area and you'll hear it. Except the ghetto bars of course.

OregonVet: GaryPDX: I'm not convinced "picked up most of her voters" is accurate.

Probably true. However here in the rust belt, many are. Most are pissed too: they're unions are telling them Obama and you should hear them exclaim "can you believe I'm going to vote for a farking nubian?!?" Hit any bar in the Toledo area and you'll hear it. Except the ghetto bars of course.

I don't think we'll fully know the impact until after election day. I believe many will just keep their mouth shut or stay home. That was a particularly brutal primary season.

FTFA: I'm pretty sure this is photoshopped . . .

Hmmm. . . Let me do a Google search for "Beliefs we can believe in."

Brongs up two results, and one is a page that sayhs it is paid for by John McCain 2008. (new window)

Three Crooked Squirrels:

Must. Preview.

OregonVet: "can you believe I'm going to vote for a farking nubian?!?" Hit any bar in the Toledo area and you'll hear it. Except the ghetto bars of course.


you'll hear the same thing, just with a different tone of voice.

"He'll Put an End to Rich People" is probably too long for a banner.

OregonVet: GaryPDX: I'm not convinced "picked up most of her voters" is accurate.

Probably true. However here in the rust belt, many are. Most are pissed too: they're unions are telling them Obama and you should hear them exclaim "can you believe I'm going to vote for a farking nubian?!?" Hit any bar in the Toledo area and you'll hear it. Except the ghetto bars of course.

Christ.

GaryPDX: That was a particularly brutal primary season.

Indeed. Which is why I suspect quite a lot of people are taking the summer off and not worrying about the general election until after august.

My father of course insists that every minor setback for Obama spells his immenent doom. Which is a mindset I just don't understand. He's not even particularly a fan of McCain. It's like he takes the Obama nomination as a direct, personal insult or something.

GaryPDX: I'm not convinced "picked up most of her voters" is accurate.

I'm fairly well convinced. There are the hardcore folks like those from Hillaryis44, but they're more of a minority as far as that goes.

DarthBrooks: "He'll Put an End to Rich People" is probably too long for a banner.

I think the housing market implosion will do that for him.

Ah cai'nt hold 'er, Captain!! Ah cai'nt hold 'er!!

Weaver95: Unlike the McCain slogan of 'Got Viagra?'

Personally, I started to lose interest once the Witch Queen was defeated. Now it's just Mr. Lefty McTaxraise vs Mr. Righty LeSleepysamesame.

I'm 100% with you on this one.

Weaver95: My father of course insists that every minor setback for Obama spells his immenent doom. Which is a mindset I just don't understand. He's not even particularly a fan of McCain. It's like he takes the Obama nomination as a direct, personal insult or something.

I think we have the same father. He thinks Obama is truly the Antichrist and the end of the world is nigh.

He doesn't thump bibles or anything, but he was raised Catholic.

make me some tea: Christ.

That may be a shock to you. But I grew up in NWOH and the staunchest of the racists are democrats. You'll find less racism among the right around here- it's bad for business.

Three Crooked Squirrels: and one is a page that sayhs it is paid for by John McCain 2008. (new window)

Heh - wow. It's an Obama lolcat maker. I actually like it.



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make me some tea: I think we have the same father. He thinks Obama is truly the Antichrist and the end of the world is nigh.

He doesn't thump bibles or anything, but he was raised Catholic.

I just don't get it either. Ok, I'd understand if he just said 'I don't like Obama's tax plans'. I can see that. It's a valid reason to not want to vote for the guy. But Dad was all happy over Obama posting smaller than expected fund raising numbers for last month. Never mind the fact that, as he well knows, fund raising numbers historically drop off between the end of the primary and the start of the party conventions. But he ignored all that. He was positively GLEEFUL over that relatively minor (and entirely expected) dip in fundraising numbers. In fact he was downright hostile when I reminded him that (statistically speaking) none of that made any real difference to anything in the upcoming general election.

I just don't understand where that comes from.

FTFA (God I feel dirty having clicked that link) I'm pretty sure this is photoshopped, but either way it says volumes about Obama's vapid sloganeering:

So a photoshopped image somehow speaks volumes about the subject of the photoshop? I think we have a new high in sheer stupidity right there.

Republican desperation is getting pathetic.

Either way, the winning slogan of 2012 will be "Had Enough?"

Dinki: Republican desperation is getting pathetic.

It's too early to be desperate. At least wait until a couple of protesters get beat up at the conventions while a TV crew catches it all on film.

OregonVet: That may be a shock to you. But I grew up in NWOH and the staunchest of the racists are democrats. You'll find less racism among the right around here- it's bad for business.

That's interesting. I always find regional variations in culture like that fascinating.

DarthBrooks: Either way, the winning slogan of 2012 will be "Had Enough?"

I think it will be "Shiat!! The Mayans were right!!"

/Merry Christmas

make me some tea: I always find regional variations in culture like that fascinating.

When Kerry went down, there was gay marriage on the ballot. I don't remember the exact numbers, but overwhelmingly for Kerry, opposite for gay marriage in each precinct.

Weaver95: Dinki: Republican desperation is getting pathetic.

It's too early to be desperate. At least wait until a couple of protesters get beat up at the conventions while a TV crew catches it all on film.

I'm worried about Denver. No fried foods. There could be fattie mcfattie chaos from withdrawals. Blubber mayhem in the streets.

Weaver95: I just don't understand where that comes from.

Talk radio. That's where my dad gets it from. Pretty much anything he comes up with can usually be sourced to that. He listens to it all day at work, and has as far back as I can remember. It's kinda cute in a *pats him on the head* way. I just let him talk and keep my mouth shut, no point in arguing.

I like how the guy tries to build a case on something he admits is photoshopped...

Weaver95: make me some tea: I think we have the same father. He thinks Obama is truly the Antichrist and the end of the world is nigh.

He doesn't thump bibles or anything, but he was raised Catholic.

I just don't get it either. Ok, I'd understand if he just said 'I don't like Obama's tax plans'. I can see that. It's a valid reason to not want to vote for the guy. But Dad was all happy over Obama posting smaller than expected fund raising numbers for last month. Never mind the fact that, as he well knows, fund raising numbers historically drop off between the end of the primary and the start of the party conventions. But he ignored all that. He was positively GLEEFUL over that relatively minor (and entirely expected) dip in fundraising numbers. In fact he was downright hostile when I reminded him that (statistically speaking) none of that made any real difference to anything in the upcoming general election.

I just don't understand where that comes from.

Make that three. My father is the same damn way and I don't think he's ever voted Republican in his life. I can't explain why. In the heat of the Obama - Hillary showdown in the primaries he was downright hostile with his comments. He asked if I was voting for Hillary. I flatly said, "No." He asked why. I answered, "Because (I'm originally from way upstate NY) when she was running for the NY Senate seat she made all kinds of promises to at least try to help that economically depressed shiathole and, once in office, I don't think she ever set foot in the tri-county area." I asked him why he wouldn't vote for Obama. He said, "Because I don't trust him. Fark him." That's it. It was like arguing on the internet. I kind of wanted to hold up a picture of an lolcat or a Ha Ha Guy after he said that.

OregonVet: When Kerry went down, there was gay marriage on the ballot. I don't remember the exact numbers, but overwhelmingly for Kerry, opposite for gay marriage in each precinct.

That's why gay marriage (and a great many other things) should not be a national issue. Let the states decide for themselves, and leave it at that.

GaryPDX: I'm not convinced "picked up most of her voters" is accurate.

46% o Clinton supporters won't back Obama, which is an upswing after Clinton pulled out and campaigned with Obama.

Doctor Funkenstein: I asked him why he wouldn't vote for Obama. He said, "Because I don't trust him. Fark him." That's it. It was like arguing on the internet. I kind of wanted to hold up a picture of an lolcat or a Ha Ha Guy after he said that.

Old people are cute in their simplicities. :)

/I hope I never get like that when I'm old

make me some tea: Let the states decide for themselves, and leave it at that.

True, however any legal marriage is binding in any state. I don't think it's a federal issue either- more things need to be up to the states....

Cheers. It's Saturday afternoon naptime!

McCainDemocrat: GaryPDX: I'm not convinced "picked up most of her voters" is accurate.

46% o Clinton supporters won't back Obama, which is an upswing after Clinton pulled out and campaigned with Obama.

That's a big number. I also believe many more will just stay home, make an excuse or lie about their votes. Those numbers we won't know until after election day.

Weaver95: Personally, I started to lose interest once the Witch Queen was defeated.

same here. Though that has more to do with almost absolutely nothing going on now. Largely attacking semantics and attacking anyone even remotely associated with either candidate. (some justified, most not. See also: Cindy and Michelle)

make me some tea: OregonVet: When Kerry went down, there was gay marriage on the ballot. I don't remember the exact numbers, but overwhelmingly for Kerry, opposite for gay marriage in each precinct.

That's why gay marriage (and a great many other things) should not be a national issue. Let the states decide for themselves, and leave it at that.

I don't think the federal government is even capable of recognizing the states ability to govern themselves, let alone actually stay hand off long enough for the state legislatures to make up their own minds about this (or any other) issue.

The banner is photoshopped, idiots. Epic Fail.

McCainDemocrat, the poll you threw in was dated on July the 5th.

Bill Frist: I like how the guy tries to build a case on something he admits is photoshopped...

It's all they've got left. NRO really has hit rock bottom. It's just sad and pathetic.

make me some tea:
That's why gay marriage (and a great many other things) should not be a national issue. Let the states decide for themselves, and leave it at that.


Sorry, but civil rights issues can not be left up to the states. They tried that up through the 50's.

Weaver95: I don't think the federal government is even capable of recognizing the states ability to govern themselves, let alone actually stay hand off long enough for the state legislatures to make up their own minds about this (or any other) issue.

We can thank Abraham Lincoln for that.

GaryPDX: I also believe many more will just stay home, make an excuse or lie about their votes.

wouldn't most of them claim to be voting Obama too?

The guilt trip campaign Obama is running is guaranteed to inflate his polling numbers. Not to mention that Obama's two main demographics are undependable.

But Obama supporters will just yammer on about Diebold and the Bradley Effect when Obama loses, instead of realizing that their candidate was the wrong choice for America.

"I'm pretty sure this is photoshopped, but either way it says volumes about Obama's vapid sloganeering: "

What astounding logic. I heard a rumor that Mark Hemingway likes to molest little boys, I'm pretty sure it's just a rumor, but it says volumes about Mark Hemingway's character.

valloned: The banner is photoshopped, idiots. Epic Fail.

Gee, thanks for clearing that up for us. Who'd have thunk it? They sure had me fooled. Yes, indeedy.

My crayon tastes like purple.

FeedTheCollapse: Weaver95: Personally, I started to lose interest once the Witch Queen was defeated.

same here. Though that has more to do with almost absolutely nothing going on now. Largely attacking semantics and attacking anyone even remotely associated with either candidate. (some justified, most not. See also: Cindy and Michelle)

well yeah - neither candidate is going to really nail down their policy platforms until the conventions. Given the lack of substantive comments, the media types are left to just make shiat up until the kick off of the campaign after the conventions are done.

Weaver95: I don't think the federal government is even capable of recognizing the states ability to govern themselves, let alone actually stay hand off long enough for the state legislatures to make up their own minds about this (or any other) issue.

OMG! You said states have some sovereignty! RACIST!!

/Just getting it out of the way before the states rights = Racism brigades show up.

Doctor Funkenstein: Three Crooked Squirrels: and one is a page that sayhs it is paid for by John McCain 2008. (new window)

Heh - wow. It's an Obama lolcat maker. I actually like it.



/GObama

Win.