McCain spokesman Col. Bud Day says that under President McCain, we'll never "kneel" to "the Christians/Jews/Catholics." Sure, he just smeared an entire religion, but it wasn't Islam, so we'll let it slide.

I make it a point never to trust anyone named "Bud"...

He might have a point (pops)

sepuku2: He might have a point (pops)

It was laughable racist lies in the early 1900s when it was called "Yellow Peril". It was laughable racist lies in the mid 19th century when it involved hordes of miscreant Irish who were coming to steal American jobs and cavort drunkenly in the streets.

It's the same story with the names changed and it's always been fictional.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: It's the same story with the names changed and it's always been fictional.

Tell that to France.

Oh! They have been told that for years! My Bad.

sepuku2: Tell that to France.

Oh! They have been told that for years! My Bad.

And? 5 to 10% of France is Muslim, many of whom are secular French who have lived in France for two or three generations. There's 1500 mosques in France compared with 14,000 Catholic churches.

France is no more in danger of being "taken over by Muslim hordes" than the Germans were in danger of being taken over by evil Jewish hordes in 1939.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: It was laughable racist lies in the early 1900s when it was called "Yellow Peril". It was laughable racist lies in the mid 19th century when it involved hordes of miscreant Irish who were coming to steal American jobs and cavort drunkenly in the streets.

It's the same story with the names changed and it's always been fictional.

Oh I beg to differ.

At least when people feared the Yellow Peril and the miscreant Irish, it was a response to a real question of immigration and assimilation.

This is just so much pantywasted conservative bedwetting. The idea that someday we will have to kneel before over a bunch of poorly armed glorified goat herders in a desert a half a world away only arises in right wing bondage fantasies.

/little green ben wah balls

gilgigamesh: /little green ben wah balls

Hey. Let's not go around ripping on ben-wa balls, here. They at least perform a service.

I'm fairly sure Bud Day "kneels" to "the Gays", if you know what I mean.

"Well, you had a Bud Day
He's takin' you down
Flappin' his gums
Gonna bring you down"

Bill_Wick's_Friend: sepuku2: Tell that to France.

Oh! They have been told that for years! My Bad.

And? 5 to 10% of France is Muslim, many of whom are secular French who have lived in France for two or three generations. i>

There is no such thing as a secular Muslim. "Muslim" is not a term utilized in identifying nationality--its a term denoting religious affiliation. That's like saying "5 to 10% of New Hampshire is Southern Baptist, many of whom are secular Americans who have lived there for generations."

The real issue is that there are 4 to 5 million Muslims living in France pushing their beliefs and agenda on the remaining 90% of the country and that 90% are not doing nearly enough about this growing trend.

thedude462: There is no such thing as a secular Muslim. "Muslim" is not a term utilized in identifying nationality--its a term denoting religious affiliation.

are you serious?

i'm baptist. i'm a VERY secular baptist... in fact, i haven't been to church in years and have no plans to go in the near future. but i'm still a member of a baptist church, my family is baptist, i was raised baptist... i'm a baptist. a secular baptist.

The real issue is that there are 4 to 5 million Muslims living in France pushing their beliefs and agenda on the remaining 90% of the country and that 90% are not doing nearly enough about this growing trend.

so the problem is they're acting like american evangelicals?

burndtdan: so the problem is they're acting like american evangelicals?

Yes. That's exactly the problem.

burndtdan: thedude462: There is no such thing as a secular Muslim. "Muslim" is not a term utilized in identifying nationality--its a term denoting religious affiliation.

are you serious?

i'm baptist. i'm a VERY secular baptist... in fact, i haven't been to church in years and have no plans to go in the near future. but i'm still a member of a baptist church, my family is baptist, i was raised baptist... i'm a baptist. a secular baptist.

The real issue is that there are 4 to 5 million Muslims living in France pushing their beliefs and agenda on the remaining 90% of the country and that 90% are not doing nearly enough about this growing trend.

so the problem is they're acting like american evangelicals?


Please.
There is NO SUCH THING as a secular Muslim.

There may be such a thing as a NON-PRACTICING Muslim, and indeed it seems you are a NON-PRACTICING BAPTIST, but "SECULAR" means "of or relating to the doctrine that rejects religion and religious considerations."

Trust me--you will never find a Muslim that says "I'm secular." Either they are deador there is a fatwa on their head already.

While unrest had been building among the juvenile population in France, action was not taken until the reopening of schools in Autumn, since most of the French population is on vacation during the late summer months. However, riots began on Thursday 27 October 2005, triggered by the deaths of two teenagers in Clichy-sous-Bois, a poor commune in an eastern banlieue (suburb) of Paris. Initially confined to the Paris area, the unrest subsequently spread to other areas of the Île-de-France région, and spread through the outskirts of France's urban areas, also affecting some rural areas. After 3 November it spread to other cities in France, affecting all 15 of the large aires urbaines in the country. Thousands of vehicles were burned, and at least one person was killed by the rioters. Close to 2900 rioters were arrested.

On 8 November, President Jacques Chirac declared a state of emergency effective at midnight. Despite the new regulations, riots continued, though on a reduced scale, the following two nights, and again worsened the third night. On 9 November and the morning of 10 November a school was burned in Belfort, and there was violence in Toulouse, Lille, Strasbourg, Marseille, and Lyon.

On 10 November and the morning of 11 November, violence increased overnight in the Paris region, and there were still a number of police wounded across the country.[4] According to the Interior Minister, violence, arson, and attacks on police worsened on the 11th and morning of the 12th, and there were further attacks on power stations, causing a blackout in the northern part of Amiens.

Rioting took place in the city center of Lyon on Saturday, 12 November, as young people attacked cars and threw rocks at riot police who responded with tear gas. Also that night, a nursery school was torched in the southern town of Carpentras.[5]



Remember those American Evangelical riots in France a couple years ago?

No, but politicians will still have to suck up to AIPAC to get elected.

Suddenly the right cares about France?

Ya Gotta to love Fark:

"McCain spokesman Col. Bud Day says that under President McCain, we'll never "kneel" to "the Muslims." Sure, he just smeared an entire religion, but he's a war hero, so we'll let it slide."

And the Greenlit headline on the main page??:

"Pope urges all faiths to unite against violence, apparently not realizing that they are the main cause of the problem in the first place"

Sure, Fark smeared all religions, but it panders to atheists, so we'll let it slide.

Speaking as an inhabitant of North America, I don't believe the Muslims have the logistical wherewithal necessary to come here and make us do anything.

It's really not something to worry over.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

It doesn't matter how unrelated a person is to McCain. The moment political points can be scored, the person becomes Mccain's aide, surrogate, spokesman, top-VP pick, or whatever.

This guy isn't a spokesman. From some quick searching, it doesn't even look like he's has anything to do with the campaign. So why lie submitter?

/By the way, the same rules apply to all of Obama's associates, aides, surrogates, etc.

thedude462:

Trust me--you will never find a Muslim that says "I'm secular." Either they are deador there is a fatwa on their head already.

Ypu are goddamned idiot and I am so glad your kind is getting more and more marginalized.

Do you read books? Talk to people outside of your group? Do you even try to understand the world around you?

halfof33: Ya Gotta to love Fark:

"McCain spokesman Col. Bud Day says that under President McCain, we'll never "kneel" to "the Muslims." Sure, he just smeared an entire religion, but he's a war hero, so we'll let it slide."

And the Greenlit headline on the main page??:

"Pope urges all faiths to unite against violence, apparently not realizing that they are the main cause of the problem in the first place"

Sure, Fark smeared all religions, but it panders to atheists, so we'll let it slide.

You poor victimized Christian.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: sepuku2: He might have a point (pops)

It was laughable racist lies in the early 1900s when it was called "Yellow Peril". It was laughable racist lies in the mid 19th century when it involved hordes of miscreant Irish who were coming to steal American jobs and cavort drunkenly in the streets.

It's the same story with the names changed and it's always been fictional.

This. And you already have idiots with "Is not!"

Just like the gay marriage thing is interracial marriage all over. Same arguements, ect. The right in this country is boring and repeatative. On and on and on.

keylock71: I make it a point never to trust anyone named "Bud"...

I'd like to see Muslims outnumber Mexicans and other hispanics here in the US. They will have their way at least by 2050, in at least a handful of states. Will be interesting.

halfof33: Ya Gotta to love Fark:

"McCain spokesman Col. Bud Day says that under President McCain, we'll never "kneel" to "the Muslims." Sure, he just smeared an entire religion, but he's a war hero, so we'll let it slide."

And the Greenlit headline on the main page??:

"Pope urges all faiths to unite against violence, apparently not realizing that they are the main cause of the problem in the first place"

Sure, Fark smeared all religions, but it panders to atheists, so we'll let it slide.

Fark represents a candidate for President?

Bill_Wick's_Friend: It was laughable racist lies in the early 1900s when it was called "Yellow Peril". It was laughable racist lies in the mid 19th century when it involved hordes of miscreant Irish who were coming to steal American jobs and cavort drunkenly in the streets.

Yes, because both of those groups came seeking to make their host country bend to their religious dictates.

halfof33: Ya Gotta to love Fark:

"McCain spokesman Col. Bud Day says that under President McCain, we'll never "kneel" to "the Muslims." Sure, he just smeared an entire religion, but he's a war hero, so we'll let it slide."

And the Greenlit headline on the main page??:

"Pope urges all faiths to unite against violence, apparently not realizing that they are the main cause of the problem in the first place"

Sure, Fark smeared all religions, but it panders to atheists, so we'll let it slide.

I didn't realize the Farkistan collective was a spokesman for a presidential candidate. Thanks for clearing that up.

Facetious_Speciest: Speaking as an inhabitant of North America, I don't believe the Muslims have the logistical wherewithal necessary to come here and make us do anything.

It's really not something to worry over.

They already made you give up your civil liberties and take a shiat on the very ideals that this nation was founded upon, what else is left for them to make you do?

RocketRod: Bill_Wick's_Friend: It was laughable racist lies in the early 1900s when it was called "Yellow Peril". It was laughable racist lies in the mid 19th century when it involved hordes of miscreant Irish who were coming to steal American jobs and cavort drunkenly in the streets.

Yes, because both of those groups came seeking to make their host country bend to their religious dictates.

I work with a shiatload of Muslims. They have no desire to have anybody bend over to their religious dictates. Some are assholes, some are cool. In short, they are exactly like you or me. Well, not as stupid as you, but you get the idea. Do you know any Muslims?

alybaba

They already made you give up your civil liberties and take a shiat on the very ideals that this nation was founded upon, what else is left for them to make you do?

I thought that was the Jooooz.

Facetious_Speciest: Speaking as an inhabitant of North America, I don't believe the Muslims have the logistical wherewithal necessary to come here and make us do anything.

It's really not something to worry over.

They won't make us do anything. We'll do it to ourselves in the name of tolerance, acceptance and PC.

helix400: I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

It doesn't matter how unrelated a person is to McCain. The moment political points can be scored, the person becomes Mccain's aide, surrogate, spokesman, top-VP pick, or whatever.

This guy isn't a spokesman. From some quick searching, it doesn't even look like he's has anything to do with the campaign. So why lie submitter?

/By the way, the same rules apply to all of Obama's associates, aides, surrogates, etc.

Bud Day has served the McCain campaign at their request. He was specifically used to counter Wes Clarks attack. He's worked for the campaign. Fail.

RocketRod: Bill_Wick's_Friend: It was laughable racist lies in the early 1900s when it was called "Yellow Peril". It was laughable racist lies in the mid 19th century when it involved hordes of miscreant Irish who were coming to steal American jobs and cavort drunkenly in the streets.

Yes, because both of those groups came seeking to make their host country bend to their religious dictates.

Interesting. How many Muslims have you met and spoken to? How many have tried to convert you? By force?

I know many. None have ever even brought up their religion, much less tried to convert me, much less than that forcefully.

Who is WE? The Christians? Or "We the mix of every religion country, US" Or "We the conservatives that listen to talk radio?" Or "We the wise world travelers via TV/internet." I hate dumbasses.

the_colonel

They won't make us do anything. We'll do it to ourselves in the name of tolerance, acceptance and PC.

This. Our government is the problem. Muslim terrorists are an excuse.

the_colonel: Facetious_Speciest: Speaking as an inhabitant of North America, I don't believe the Muslims have the logistical wherewithal necessary to come here and make us do anything.

It's really not something to worry over.

They won't make us do anything. We'll do it to ourselves in the name of tolerance, acceptance and PC.

Because this is the banner under which the extra-Constitutional shenanigans of the past 7+ years have taken place? Please.

I never knew Americans were such pussies, seriously.sepuku2: Bill_Wick's_Friend: It's the same story with the names changed and it's always been fictional.

Tell that to France.

Oh! They have been told that for years! My Bad.

Is this the same country where the Muslims are so powerful that they still can't wear the hijab in public schools?

thedude462: NON-PRACTICING Muslim

oh oh oh thats me!!!!

/i was just born good at it...i keed.
//traditions are great
///"insert organized religion here" - not so much

the_colonel: They won't make us do anything. We'll do it to ourselves in the name of tolerance, acceptance and PC.

If we're going to stop tolerating, accepting and being politically correct to all manner of idiots, you might be in trouble.

He's not your Bud-Day, guy.

PascalsGhost: You poor victimized Christian.

Ah, the hypocrisy, it smells so good!

culebra: Fark represents a candidate for President?

Herman Borrach: I didn't realize the Farkistan collective was a spokesman for a presidential candidate.

You folks dim or something? I was just pointing out the hypocrisy around here.

KJM315: oh oh oh thats me!!!!

just to qualify it - I'm Persian, born in Tehran moved here with my family after some un-named government backed a bunch of psycho and ruined my country even worse than when they did it in the 50s, or in the teens...

/Zod disagrees

alybaba: hijab in public schools

my .02 (.01 canadian) - you either let people where religous items in public schools or you don't. be it crosses, yarmulkas or head scarves, turbans, rasta hats (sorry i don't know what they are called)

/ok i have to go work, srsly

PascalsGhost: thedude462:

Trust me--you will never find a Muslim that says "I'm secular." Either they are deador there is a fatwa on their head already.

Ypu are goddamned idiot and I am so glad your kind is getting more and more marginalized.

Do you read books? Talk to people outside of your group? Do you even try to understand the world around you?

Do you make coherent arguments or simply ad hominem bullshiat that only makes you look dumber for having said it?

Bud Day is a LAWYER! A Lawyer!
But he's a Marine, so I'll let it slide.

sepuku2: He might have a point (pops)

Well, they stopped those Jews from taking over Europe, that's for sure. It's Islam's turn now to get their just deserts, right?

Dr. Flavenglaven: keylock71: I make it a point never to trust anyone named "Bud"...



(Please let this become a thread about famous "Buds"...)

We're Americans, Dammit! We kneel down before no one! And by "no one," of course, I mean no one who isn't offering easy credit, cheap labor, or lots of light, sweet crude.

/Give us all three, and you can cum on our face
//I'm looking at you, China!