Illinois has some terrible laws, but I can't imagine that their ethical rules permit a lawyer to identify a client without that client's consent.

Good.

How much does it suck to be a Republican these days if this is the worst you can do? Christ, even Bill Clinton had Whitewater and philandering to fill the attack ads.

WHAT IS HE HIDING?? REZKO WILL HAUNT YOU OBAMA

Certainly, anyone he's ever represented in court would be public record. Beyond that, unless the client specifically requests that the representation remain confidential, I don't know if merely being a client can't be disclosed. (I'm not saying he should or shouldn't, just ruminating on whether it violates any ethical rules.)

filth: Illinois has some terrible laws, but I can't imagine that their ethical rules permit a lawyer to identify a client without that client's consent.



in order to simply "release" what these tards are after, he would need a stack of written consent that is probably bigger than the files themselves.

Nabb1: Certainly, anyone he's ever represented in court would be public record. Beyond that, unless the client specifically requests that the representation remain confidential, I don't know if merely being a client can't be disclosed. (I'm not saying he should or shouldn't, just ruminating on whether it violates any ethical rules.)

Either way, this is a pretty thinly-veiled ploy wouldn't you say? It's Rove's Kobayashi Maru. The only way Obama can beat it is to refuse to play.

Dear right-wing lunatics: fark off.

That is all.

flavor of the month: filth: Illinois has some terrible laws, but I can't imagine that their ethical rules permit a lawyer to identify a client without that client's consent.



in order to simply "release" what these tards are after, he would need a stack of written consent that is probably bigger than the files themselves.

Well, I can understand why he has to answer Rezko questions, but I have clients for whom I do not appear as attorney of record and for whom I need to work as inconspicuously as possible. And if I ran for President, those engagements would still be no one's business but the client's.

I still think Obama's policy positions suck donkey balls, but he's running an awesome campaign.

Diogenes It's Rove's Kobayashi Maru. The only way Obama can beat it is to refuse to play.


the only way to beat kobayashi maru was to cheat. refusing to play would have lost you that sweet promotion.

I only read the headline and one thing that popped into my head was attourney client privilage.

flavor of the month: Diogenes It's Rove's Kobayashi Maru. The only way Obama can beat it is to refuse to play.


the only way to beat kobayashi maru was to cheat. refusing to play would have lost you that sweet promotion.

Well, perhaps the better way to say it is to refuse to play on the game's terms. Cheating is a form of "not playing" in that sense.

I would never release the name of a single one of my clients unless they asked me to in writing.

Nabb1: Certainly, anyone he's ever represented in court would be public record.

If it's a matter of public record, then the best way to find these things is to simply search for them. Why should Obama do their homework for them?

And you know every one of these LGF jokers would defend Bush's abuse of Executive Privilege to the death.

In other words: we can't be bothered to do any of our own research, and the public records suck donkey pizzle, because that would mean billable hours by the people we'd rather use to dig dirt...

filth Well, I can understand why he has to answer Rezko questions, but I have clients for whom I do not appear as attorney of record and for whom I need to work as inconspicuously as possible.


disclosure has never been a professional issue for me, but the way i was taught was that there is implied consent to disclose a representation relationship to the extent necessary to perform some action the client wants performed.

unless there's something covering this in the retainer, he can only release as much as his clients will allow him, even rezko.

hillbillypharmacist: Nabb1: Certainly, anyone he's ever represented in court would be public record.

If it's a matter of public record, then the best way to find these things is to simply search for them. Why should Obama do their homework for them?

To be fair to the people who have to find out about this stuff, even if he has a representation that's a matter of public record, a lot of those records are not searchable by attorney name. I still think he shouldn't ID any clients, but given the length of time he practiced and his apparent success level, his client list might not be that long. Asking him probably is the best way to get the info, and even if you went through the public records, you'd want to compare them to what he released.

Rule 1.6. Confidentiality of Information

(a) Except when required under Rule 1.6(b) or permitted under Rule 1.6(c), a lawyer shall not, during or after termination of the professional relationship with the client, use or reveal a confidence or secret of the client known to the lawyer unless the client consents after disclosure.

(b) A lawyer shall reveal information about a client to the extent it appears necessary to prevent the client from committing an act that would result in death or serious bodily harm.

(c) A lawyer may use or reveal:

(1) confidences or secrets when permitted under these Rules or required by law or court order;

(2) the intention of a client to commit a crime in circumstances other than those enumerated in Rule 1.6(b); or

(3) confidences or secrets necessary to establish or collect the lawyer's fee or to defend the lawyer or the lawyer's employees or associates against an accusation of wrongful conduct.




This actually seems like a significant departure from the model rules, which prohibit releasing client information, not just "secrets and confidences." It is still a disastrously unprofessional idea to go around giving that info to every dipshiat throwing a temper tantrum.

Why is who an attorney represents anybody's business? I've represented some pretty marginal types. I believe I've done it well. Why is the identity of my clients relevant to anything? Horse shiat, thy name is Little Green Footballs.

Nabb1: Beyond that, unless the client specifically requests that the representation remain confidential, I don't know if merely being a client can't be disclosed. (I'm not saying he should or shouldn't, just ruminating on whether it violates any ethical rules.)

I believe that client representation in matters of consultation does count as privileged information, and the lawyer does not have the right to release that information to the public record at his discretion unless it is part of legal proceeding or requested by a court.

Code_Archeologist: Nabb1: Beyond that, unless the client specifically requests that the representation remain confidential, I don't know if merely being a client can't be disclosed. (I'm not saying he should or shouldn't, just ruminating on whether it violates any ethical rules.)

I believe that client representation in matters of consultation does count as privileged information, and the lawyer does not have the right to release that information to the public record at his discretion unless it is part of legal proceeding or requested by a court.

There was a case (I think out of Florida) dealing with whether the fact of respresentation is covered by the privilege. I think the test they used was whether public knowledge of the relationship would harm the client's interests. Regardless, I'm not ID'ing any clients without consent or a court order.

MorrisBird: Why is who an attorney represents anybody's business? I've represented some pretty marginal types. I believe I've done it well. Why is the identity of my clients relevant to anything? Horse shiat, thy name is Little Green Footballs.

It'll play well with the so-called "low information" voters (a.k.a. "morans").

All they have to say is "Obama won't reveal ______." and the froth starts flowing.

stupid

I bet Obama wrote some un-American and non-patriotic briefs and contracts.

We need to find out who he helped, so we can bring up dirt about them and rail on Obama for it.

While we're at it, why don't we get McCain to disclose what Charles Keating talked to him about it 1987 after donating a bunch of money to him and letting him use his jet for 5 years? Then we can ask him to disclose what he said to the federal regulators that were conducting an investigation of Lincoln Savings and Loan Associates.

That'd be fun to get both candidates to disclose information!

kronicfeld: Good.

How much does it suck to be a Republican these days if this is the worst you can do? Christ, even Bill Clinton had Whitewater and philandering to fill the attack ads.

Black lawyers should be required to release confidential client information!!! How dare you question this logic.

On the other hand, Democrats biatch and moan about executive privilege.

I_C_Weener: On the other hand, Democrats biatch and moan about executive privilege.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that most people have a problem with the "overuse" of executive privilege.

I_C_Weener: On the other hand, Democrats biatch and moan about Bush's abuse of executive privilege.

Just dotting the i's for you.

flavor of the month: the only way to beat kobayashi maru was to cheat. refusing to play would have lost you that sweet promotion.

WILL LOSE you that promotion.

Trek is future history. Get your tenses straight.

As a male prostitute who dresses as a lawyer, my clients rest easily, knowing I would never disclose their identities if/when I should run for president.

What. The. Fark.

First of all, if I'm not mistaken (and I could be), can't the firm destroy records after X years (I thought 7, but it might be different)? 1997 - 2000 = 8-11 years ago.

Second, it really seems like these morans are really scraping the bottom of the barrel to try to dig shiat up. I'm not singing either of their praises by any means, but come on. At least make an effort to find something better than a list of the clients he represented (which from my perspective doesn't mean anything except issues he's argued - and that doesn't necessarily show his personal beliefs, as the job of the attorney is to zealously represent the client to the best of their ability).

I hate politics...it brings out the worst in everyone.

/doesn't stop me from putting my two cents in.
//OK, I'm done now...going back to my corner

Three Crooked Squirrels: I would never release the name of a single one of my clients unless they asked me to in writing.

Just give us the initials of one that was acquited and tell us if he was really guilty.

In a related development, I am now demanding that Scarlett Johanssen be handed over to me immediately for purposes that shall be known only to me. I am a voter in 21st century America, and therefore my whims are the only important thing to consider.

That is all.

Skail: As a male prostitute who dresses as a lawyer, my clients rest easily, knowing I would never disclose their identities if/when I should run for president.

Lawyer?...let's see your briefs? You can put it the hands of lawyer but it won't stand up in court. Come in my chambers.

/don't forget to tip your waiter

I_C_Weener: On the other hand, Democrats biatch and moan about executive privilege.

I trust this is not meant as a serious comparison.

kronicfeld: How much does it suck to be a Republican these days if this is the worst you can do? Christ, even Bill Clinton had Whitewater and philandering to fill the attack ads.

Seriously. This is like the Frenchman in Holy Grail threatening to taunt King Arthur a second time.

LGF has this man-crush on Obama that's approaching the annoyance of the Ron Paul days of last year.

For a conservative blog I find their stance on a lot of subjects (read: not all) pretty rational and sane, but I just can't browse their site when a search for the term 'Obama' on their front page returns 1,324 results.

Here's a sample of the LGF headline feed on any given day:

Obama's Web site is blue - terrorist blue.
Obama's mailman's third cousin's best friend once killed a puppy.
Obama's Web site uses tables instead of divs, it's unprofessional.
Obama's name mentioned in a racist blog, that means Obama is racist.

Seriously, get over it.

On a side note, this video is pretty farkin' hilarious:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30673_Hamas_Kids_Sentence_Jew-Eating_R ab bit_to_Amputation (new window)

"Major" and "Bloggers" are two words that really don't belong in the same sentence.

MorrisBird: Why is who an attorney represents anybody's business? I've represented some pretty marginal types. I believe I've done it well. Why is the identity of my clients relevant to anything? Horse shiat, thy name is Little Green Footballs.

I had no idea you're a lawyer. Now I'm conflicted. How can I think a lawyer is a hottie? *confused* what will I do.. *head asplode*

Luckily, conservatives don't care about attorney/client privilege.

I think we need the real scoop.

What kind of porn does each candidate prefer.
The people demand to know.

Fellows: For a conservative blog I find their stance on a lot of subjects (read: not all) pretty rational and sane

I particularly liked their takedown of the jihadi Food Network's #2 in command, Rachmael al-Ray, for wearing that America-hating scarf and emboldening our enemies. They shined a much-needed spotlight on her nefarious plot with Dunkin Donuts to send signals detailing troop locations to the terrorists via neckwear. Their heroic work on that case now means that al-Ray will never be able to preach her unique, perky brand of anti-Israel hatred on "30-Minute Meals" ever again. It should be an inspiration to bloggers on both sides of the political fence.

I also enjoy reading their comments section and playing "Spot the Assassin." That's always good for a few chuckles.

Ah lovely, a "trash Little Green Hitlers" thread. Let's turn up the heat so that over-sensitive thin-skinned neocon prick Charles Johnson posts a thread about how we're so mean to him.

Just don't hotlink from his website. I learned that the hard way.

Charles Johnson is an asshole.

dillenger69
What kind of porn does each candidate prefer.
The people demand to know.

Obama - Interracial

McCain - Scat

I'd not do it without the client's clear permission. I don't blame him. Dumping the firm's conflict list is really pushing it anyway.

FLUSH TOILET MCWALKER!

And impotent bloggers continue to shake their tiny fists in anger.

Fart_Machine: And impotent bloggers continue to shake their tiny fists in anger.

Chuckles Johnson lost the circulation in his tiny fists years ago. Whether it's because he sees anti-zionist conspiracies in Rachel Ray's scarf, or because he's up to his elbow in Iron Fist's arse, that dude's fists must look like Bob Dole's right arm.

Surely, Obama is tempting fate here. He, like any candidate, should tremble in fear at the awesome might of the blogosphere and acquiesce to their least whim.