Sounds like a Sting.

Patriot Act! Patriot AAAAAACT!

Everyone knows all granola-eating lefties are agents of Lenin, right?

/good use of public money
//J. Edgar Hoover would approve.

What do they care about folks who protest those who protest the death penalty?

FTFA: "Police also included the name of at least one prominent peace activist in a federal database for tracking terrorists and drug dealers."

I didn't realize that wanting to ban the death penalty in the US made me a terrorist. Who knew?

But remember folks, the government doesn't do stuff like this to innocents. Only the bad men get watched.

The Tv told me so.

You trust the TV, don't you?

I could not disagree with these protesters more. I could not get more upset that the police even considered doing this, much less actually carrying this out.

(Ahem, starting GOP talking points)

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

Freedom of association and thought is pre-911 thinking

If we don't monitor your associations the terrorists have already won.

Being anti-death penalty is equivalent to felating Osama BinLaden and then spitting on the flag

Won't somebody think of the children.


/That is all
//This has been a republican moment. Watch FOX News for repeats.

Antimatter: But remember folks, the government doesn't do stuff like this to innocents. Only the bad men get watched.

The Tv told me so.

You trust the TV, don't you?

TV, huh? I learned it from the hundreds of people who say "since I didn't do anything wrong I don't have anything to worry about."

Well, if only they could have them put to death, they wouldn't have to spy on them.

Law enforcment are just gearing-up for future endeavors..

"found it "sad at the same time that the government is wasting time and money and on me and others that are doing constitutionally protected free speech activities." "

Yeah - Protected... For right now. Give it time, that'll change.

Ah yes, Life and Peace- the establishment loathes them so.

You know you're world is completely farked when...

I find this confusing, the government is spending money to infiltrate an "Open to the Public" meeting of a Public based organization?

WTF?

Wow, it must be paradise to live in a place where the best use of police resources is to monitor peace activists and anti-death penalty activists!

Free ponies for all?

doyner:
FTFA: "Police also included the name of at least one prominent peace activist in a federal database for tracking terrorists and drug dealers."

I didn't realize that wanting to ban the death penalty in the US made me a terrorist. Who knew?

They use shouting, committing verbal attacks and sound violence to commit political and society changes on the people of the US. They can hardly be compared to the wonderful people who are protecting us like Eric Rudolph did.

The sentence made me see Red, then purple then Green (then I remeber to take my BP pills):


A well-known antiwar activist from Baltimore, Max Obuszewski, 63, was singled out by the undercover agents and entered into a "Washington-Baltimore High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area" database. His entry indicates a "Primary Crime" of "Terrorism-anti-government" and a "Secondary Crime" of "Terrorism-Anti-War Protesters," according to the documents.


it's revolting that they even HAVE such a category in their DB

I wonder how much time we spent wire tapping them as well?

Don't the police have better things to do? Like solve crimes?

This is just like when Homeland Security agents infiltrated the Quakers.

I wonder how they found out where they were meeting....

Send some of those cops out here to Detroit (or Cleveland, St. Louis, Chicago....) Sounds like they're bored as hell.

"I have a plan! We will single-handedly attack our arch-enemy: The neutral planet!"

doyner: FTFA: "Police also included the name of at least one prominent peace activist in a federal database for tracking terrorists and drug dealers."

I didn't realize that wanting to ban the death penalty in the US made me a terrorist. Who knew?

Free speech announcing it is leaving the constitution to spend more time with its family in 4,3,2...

But don't worry right to bear arms has made a commitment to stay!

limeyfellow: They use shouting, committing verbal attacks and sound violence to commit political and society changes on the people of the US. They can hardly be compared to the wonderful people who are protecting us like Eric Rudolph did.

You know who else spied on their citizens?

Where hearts were entertaining June,
We stood beneath an amber moon
And softly murmured "someday soon"
We kissed and clung together,
Then tomorrow was another day
The morning found me miles away
With still a million things to say

monoski: Free speech announcing it is leaving the constitution to spend more time with its family in 4,3,2...

But don't worry right to bear arms has made a commitment to stay!

Well, the sword is mightier than the pen after all.

/right?

Martin Luther King was also a dangerous anti-American force targeted by the FBI for surveillance. Link (new window)

Good thing we have protections against such misguided surveillance against political enemies now...oh, wait.

richie65: Yeah - Protected... For right now. Give it time, that'll change.



ORLY?

Anyone who isn't against the death penalty should be killed.

PockleCod: monoski: Free speech announcing it is leaving the constitution to spend more time with its family in 4,3,2...

But don't worry right to bear arms has made a commitment to stay!

Well, the sword is mightier than the pen after all.

/right?

And the spoken or written word much more dangerous than an AK47...

Finally, someone willing to save America from those damned dirty Catholics.

monoski: Free speech announcing it is leaving the constitution to spend more time with its family in 4,3,2...

This is not the free speech we knew. It was out of the loop.

Freedom isn't freedom!

SpectroBoy: (Ahem, starting GOP talking points)

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

Freedom of association and thought is pre-911 thinking

If we don't monitor your associations the terrorists have already won.

Being anti-death penalty is equivalent to felating Osama BinLaden and then spitting on the flag

Won't somebody think of the children.


/That is all
//This has been a republican moment. Watch FOX News for repeats.

Ummm... MD is a blue state. Best start your Dem monopoly talking points.

It's not as though this is anything new; this is exactly what McCarthyism was all about.

I've read the history texts, which sounded bad enough. I happened to stumble upon a Reader's Digest Condensed version of a novel (fiction) written at the time. What was truly chilling was the way the authorities' actions were seen as neither illegal nor intrusive, and absolutely necessary to protect the populace from the Red Menace...

/there is nothing new under the sun

baltimoreron: Ummm... MD is a blue state. Best start your Dem monopoly talking points.

Ummmm, all of this went on during the Bob Ehrlich years (new window), and he's a Republican.

In 2038 the freedom of information act stuff will come out about the current administration. I bet it will make the Nixon administration look somewhat rosy in regards to spying on US citizens.

techmom: It's not as though this is anything new; this is exactly what McCarthyism was all about.

I've read the history texts, which sounded bad enough. I happened to stumble upon a Reader's Digest Condensed version of a novel (fiction) written at the time. What was truly chilling was the way the authorities' actions were seen as neither illegal nor intrusive, and absolutely necessary to protect the populace from the Red Menace...

/there is nothing new under the sun


Yep. What really makes me realize that there is no hoep for humanity is that Americans have the best country in the world and they WILLING BEG to give their freedoms away. They thank the people who do this.

If people were even remotely intelligent stuff like this would cause an uproar. Now think how many people are falsely behind bars. Think how many have been killed by the state. And, to make my point, watch as I will be called a tin foil hatter in this thread.

This thread about a news story about cops putting peace protesters on terrorism lists. :)

Living in a progressive, Democratic state like Maryland I'm getting a kick out of these repl...... oh wait......

Hey, what do I expect with law enforcement like this?

I've come to think of Fark as my 2 minutes (often longer) or hate. Everyday I can come here and read how our government is constantly spitting on its citizens or the occasional citizens calling for the government to spit on them. This article fulfilled my hate for the weekend.

vort3xxx: In 2038 the freedom of information act stuff will come out about the current administration. I bet it will make the Nixon administration look somewhat rosy in regards to spying on US citizens.

Assuming they didn't lose all of that information in the same way they lost all those emails.

/I have every email I've ever sent or received (minus spam) dating back for over a decade

You can't be too careful: Those Anti-Death Penalty activists are a violent bunch.

/dripping with sarcasm

danfrank: baltimoreron: Ummm... MD is a blue state. Best start your Dem monopoly talking points.

Ummmm, all of this went on during the Bob Ehrlich years (new window), and he's a Republican.

Then-state police superintendent Tim Hutchins acknowledged in an interview yesterday that the surveillance took place on his watch, adding that it was done legally. He said Ehrlich (R) was not aware of it.

You were saying...?

Another proud moment for Maryland, thnaks to Bob Erlich. As if that god-awful toupee wasn't embarassment enough...

Underwear Agents??


Sorry this thread was getting boring.

This is not new. It's just become more pervasive. It would be that only some super-secret organization within the executive branch would engage in such thingswhen requested by the President or someone high-up at the Pentagon. Now, the respect for the basic citizen and the Constitution have become so low that even Chief Wigwam feels he can break the law with impunity. First they came for the Geneva convention, and it was quaint, and I did not protest; next they came for the Bill of Rights, and it was quaint, and...you get the idea...

Nothing new... Your tax dollars are being used to spy on such violent radicals as say... Quakers as well.

But of course these monitoring powers will never be used to peek at competing political parties a la Watergate... Not in *this* America.