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(Think Progress) Dumbass Savage: 'In 99 percent of the cases' of autism, 'it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out.'   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 267
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eddyatwork [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 03:50:37 AM  
Cue the raging hordes of breeders saying that "their child is special and we must respect them" even though a good healthy dose of discipline would solve the problem. God forbid you say no once in awhile.

 
log_jammin [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 03:57:50 AM  
eddyatwork: Cue the raging hordes of breeders saying that "their child is special and we must respect them" even though a good healthy dose of discipline would solve the problem. God forbid you say no once in awhile.

you have no clue WTF you're talking about

 
Last One Left [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 04:10:48 AM  
log_jammin: you have no clue WTF you're talking about

He's special; respect him.

/couldn't resist

 
Booklegger 2008-07-18 04:20:38 AM  
I can't speak for the rest of it, but any older kid who fails the Sally Anne test isn't faking it.

ADD? That shiat's made up.

 
youl100 2008-07-18 04:20:44 AM  
Michael Weiner is an idiot.

/Weiner.

 
RDMA 2008-07-18 04:21:11 AM  
In 99 percent of the cases of cancer, it's someone looking for attention by telling some of his cells to form a malignant carcinoma.

We really need to stop giving these people attention, that would cut the whole cancer problem right off at the source. I little bloodletting and some ritual self-flagellation and they'd be right as rain. They wouldn't try that shiat again!

 
log_jammin [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 04:23:47 AM  
Last One Left: couldn't resist

I'm glad you didn't

 
zelachang 2008-07-18 04:24:47 AM  
Physical illness: "Oh my god I'm so sorry for what you have to go through."
Mental illness: "Pull your shiat together, gotta learn how to deal with life. Your mind can never possibly have issues. Its all in your head so its your fault you're messed up. Go DIAF sinner."

 
PostApocalypticTribe 2008-07-18 04:26:41 AM  
This guy is an idiot AND an asshat. A dangerous combination.

/I hope he DIAF
//Or is trampled by a herd of unmanaged autistic kids who haven't had their meds.
///Has an autistic nephew

 
GreenAdder [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 04:27:28 AM  
Man. That Wonder Years guy turned out to be a douche.

 
Dr.Zom 2008-07-18 04:27:51 AM  
I love Weiner talking about how his father raised him. Follow these instructions if you want to raise a closeted self-hating gay man.

And eddyatwork is a farking idiot.

 
Lackofname 2008-07-18 04:32:14 AM  
In 99 cases of retardism, it's just a brat who hasn't been told to smart up and stop acting stupid.

After all, many of those brats turned out to be talk radio hosts.

 
Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 04:35:23 AM  
In 99% of the cases of Savage saying something incredibly stupid, it's really just a talk radio host who doesn't have sense enough to STFD and STFU.

 
Broken9754 2008-07-18 04:44:30 AM  
Wow

 
ninjakirby [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 04:45:24 AM  
I'm not sure which I detest more, the people who think Autism is made up, or the people who think it is real, but caused by vaccines.

 
uatuba 2008-07-18 04:46:20 AM  
Really? Ninety-nine percent? No. Not even close. I agree that autism is turning into ADD/ADHD in that it is now becoming the popular disorder with which to misdiagnose kids, but that is the medical community's fault, not the kids' or parents' fault.

 
josephstalin 2008-07-18 04:48:36 AM  
ADD and Autism are both very real, but seriously its overblown by parents who want a quick fix to hyperactive kids. Proper discipline would really prevent/solve a lot of problems kids have.

And I do appreciate Michael Savage's ability to rile people up. In the rare moment he says something actually true, he still spins it in a way that pisses everyone off. Wonderful.

 
Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 04:50:27 AM  
ninjakirby: I'm not sure which I detest more, the people who think Autism is made up, or the people who think it is real, but caused by vaccines.

Willing to entertain the concept that certain vaccinations (possibly when administered at specific times) could be a contributing cause to autism, or true believer that the MMR series contains retard germs?

 
Farker Soze 2008-07-18 04:50:49 AM  
"f I behaved like a fool, my father called me a fool. And he said to me, 'Don't behave like a fool.' The worst thing he said - 'Don't behave like a fool. Don't be anybody's dummy. Don't sound like an idiot. Don't act like a girl. Don't cry.' That's what I was raised with."

Looks like it didn't work.

 
joe90 2008-07-18 04:52:14 AM  
Occam's Chainsaw: ninjakirby: I'm not sure which I detest more, the people who think Autism is made up, or the people who think it is real, but caused by vaccines.

Willing to entertain the concept that certain vaccinations (possibly when administered at specific times) could be a contributing cause to autism, or true believer that the MMR series contains retard germs?


The MMR does NOT contribute in anyway to autism, its never been proved.

 
knobmaker 2008-07-18 04:53:11 AM  
Why is this in the politics tab?

Shouldn't Fark have a douchebaggery tab for stories like this?

 
SeismicJizzer 2008-07-18 04:56:08 AM  
Could you imagine having this asshat as a father?

/going back to watching porn

 
Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 04:57:32 AM  
joe90: The MMR does NOT contribute in anyway to autism, its never been proved.

That was phrased as a question, and differentiating between people who will consider the possibility that vaccines could be a contributor to autism until proven otherwise and people who plug their ears and shout, "LALALALA, VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM. IT'S TRUE BECAUSE JENNY MCCARTHY SAID SO. LALALALA." I was curious if ninjakirby drew that distinction.

 
joe90 2008-07-18 05:02:26 AM  
Occam's Chainsaw: joe90: The MMR does NOT contribute in anyway to autism, its never been proved.

That was phrased as a question, and differentiating between people who will consider the possibility that vaccines could be a contributor to autism until proven otherwise and people who plug their ears and shout, "LALALALA, VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM. IT'S TRUE BECAUSE JENNY MCCARTHY SAID SO. LALALALA." I was curious if ninjakirby drew that distinction.


ahhs ok.. soz.. i have a kid, and shes just had it, and had to deal with my parents screaming like farktards about Autism, even with proof, she still believed the one stupid story her mates mate whos a doctor told her, and some case in America.

/soz.. too early.

 
paulseta [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 05:05:35 AM  
eddyatwork [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 03:50:37 AM
Cue the raging hordes of breeders (snip)



Either that was (a) a brilliant troll, or:
(b) one of those disgusting comments from young wankstains that diminish the entire human experience just by existing.

Either way, I am disgusted and intrigued.

 
meekychuppet 2008-07-18 05:07:59 AM  
eddyatwork: Cue the raging hordes of breeders saying that "their child is special and we must respect them" even though a good healthy dose of discipline would solve the problem. God forbid you say no once in awhile.

You're an absolute farking imbecile.

josephstalin: ADD and Autism are both very real, but seriously its overblown by parents who want a quick fix to hyperactive kids. Proper discipline would really prevent/solve a lot of problems kids have.

Do you have any evidence to substantiate your bullshiat?

 
Whatsleft 2008-07-18 05:16:42 AM  
His name had been out of the news for a while, and he wasn't gunna let that happen.

 
meekychuppet 2008-07-18 05:19:19 AM  
eddyatwork:

Is this really you:

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Jynnjynn 2008-07-18 05:29:13 AM  
uatuba: Really? Ninety-nine percent? No. Not even close. I agree that autism is turning into ADD/ADHD in that it is now becoming the popular disorder with which to misdiagnose kids, but that is the medical community's fault, not the kids' or parents' fault.

I think you might be confusing Autism with Asperger's syndrome.
If you've ever known a child with autism, it's VERY clear that it is VERY real.

Asperger's sydrome (which is a FORM of autism) is being ridiculously over diagnosed, and self diagnosed in anyone who is just kind of socially inept or akward.

 
Lackofname 2008-07-18 05:33:11 AM  
meekychuppet Do you have any evidence to substantiate your bullshiat?

http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp?Id=229

 
3_Butt_Cheeks 2008-07-18 05:37:42 AM  
The moron was trying to be critical of "ADD", and rightly so. However, all he managed was an epic FAIL.

 
Last One Left [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 05:42:25 AM  
Lackofname: http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp?Id=229

I stopped reading here: "Homeopathy"

 
ninjakirby [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 05:43:36 AM  
Occam's Chainsaw: I was curious if ninjakirby drew that distinction.

Yeah, theres a distinction. The link between vaccines and autism has been shown to be entirely unsubstantiated, so at this point, I'd give them a fail. Nothing wrong with a little mild skepticism though, especially with a link which seems on the surface to make sense.

 
Game With Stones 2008-07-18 05:47:38 AM  
In 99 percent cases of children with psychotic tendencies, its a child who hasn't had your dick placed in his mouth and told not to bite down - hard.

 
meekychuppet 2008-07-18 05:54:55 AM  
Lackofname: http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp?Id=229

ROFLMAO - '...As homeopathic physicians...'. You're a farking goon.

 
meekychuppet 2008-07-18 05:55:38 AM  
Jynnjynn: Asperger's sydrome (which is a FORM of autism) is being ridiculously over diagnosed, and self diagnosed in anyone who is just kind of socially inept or akward.

Same question to you - any evidence to substantiate our bullshiat?

 
puffy999 [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 05:56:55 AM  
log_jammin: you have no clue WTF you're talking about

Separating legitimate cases of autism... he's absolutely right about what he said.

 
meekychuppet 2008-07-18 05:58:14 AM  
meekychuppet: our

*Facepalm*

 
meekychuppet 2008-07-18 05:58:49 AM  
puffy999: Separating legitimate cases of autism... he's absolutely right about what he said.

No he isn't.

 
Gulper Eel [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 05:58:55 AM  
Does Savage have anybody on his staff who even remotely fact-checks this stuff, or does he just go on the air and randomly jumble them together?

There has been plenty of Medicare/Medicaid fraud related to asthma and autism, but how that converts into extra welfare for the kids is beyond me. Usually with Medicare/Medicaid fraud it's some weasel who sets up a bogus health-services company who makes out like a bandit, and the patients in question don't even exist.

 
3_Butt_Cheeks 2008-07-18 06:00:41 AM  
Gulper Eel: Does Savage have anybody on his staff who even remotely fact-checks this stuff, or does he just go on the air and randomly jumble them together?

There has been plenty of Medicare/Medicaid fraud related to asthma and autism, but how that converts into extra welfare for the kids is beyond me. Usually with Medicare/Medicaid fraud it's some weasel who sets up a bogus health-services company who makes out like a bandit, and the patients in question don't even exist.


I don't know one way or the other about that specific issue, but you can bet if there is a way to cheat uncle sam and make a buck, someone is doing it.

 
puffy999 [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 06:01:48 AM  
From my side, that's a comment about parents in general nowadays (especially those with "horrible" ADD kids and the parents who are somehow doctors without any training).

 
meekychuppet 2008-07-18 06:02:20 AM  
Gulper Eel: Does Savage have anybody on his staff who even remotely fact-checks this stuff, or does he just go on the air and randomly jumble them together?

He is one of the many morans who believe that kids with mental illnesses can be cured with a beating or two. I carry the scars of that mentality and I can attest that it does not work.

 
Zalan [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 06:04:07 AM  
Is Autism real? yes.
Is Autism now being used as the 'disease of the week' to give shiatty parents a way to say 'its not my fault!'? Yes.

1953 was 2-4 per 10000
in 2003, the highest incident rate was just over 12 per 10000 people
By 2005, it was up to 60 per 10000
2007, now it's 1 in 150, or 66.6 cases per 10000

Like 'fake' rape victims, fake autism patients ruin it for the people who actually have problems.

 
puffy999 [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 06:04:17 AM  
meekychuppet: No he isn't.

So you don't believe discipline in many children (again, I've distinguished between legitimate issues and what hypochondriac parents and overzealous doctors who are trying to sell medication THINK some kids have) won't assist in some behavioral correction?

Boy, I guess you sure showed everyone. I'm glad I come to Fark.

 
Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 06:05:35 AM  
ninjakirby: Yeah, theres a distinction. The link between vaccines and autism has been shown to be entirely unsubstantiated, so at this point, I'd give them a fail. Nothing wrong with a little mild skepticism though, especially with a link which seems on the surface to make sense.

Fair enough. I'm personally open to the idea, but as you said, no real evidence to support ATM.

 
puffy999 [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 06:05:44 AM  
Oh, your past creates difficulty discerning the difference between "discipline" and "beating". My bad.

/have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

 
meekychuppet 2008-07-18 06:07:00 AM  
puffy999: So you don't believe discipline in many children (again, I've distinguished between legitimate issues and what hypochondriac parents and overzealous doctors who are trying to sell medication THINK some kids have) won't assist in some behavioral correction?

You haven't distinguished shiat. You have pulled a bunch of uninformed prejudice and conjecture out of your ass, decided it is unassailable truth and drawn a bunch of bullshiat conclusions.

 
meekychuppet 2008-07-18 06:08:02 AM  
puffy999: Oh, your past creates difficulty discerning the difference between "discipline" and "beating". My bad.

/have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?


Terrible troll. Welcome to my ignore list.

 
Zalan [TotalFark] 2008-07-18 06:08:12 AM  
meekychuppet: He is one of the many morans who believe that kids with mental illnesses can be cured with a beating or two. I carry the scars of that mentality and I can attest that it does not work.

What do you suggest, just letting the kid run around with absolutely no discipline? Or stuff them full of drugs that we don't know the long term effects of?

 
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