It's "DEUCE"... not "douche"

/"Wrapped up like a DEUCE, another runner in the night..."

No he didnt.

The people most responsible for winning the Cold War?

Pope John Paul II
Harry S Truman
Ronald Reagan
Margaret Thatcher

US taxpayers had a large role, many military personnel from all over the globe did also. The good people of East and West Germany had a big role.

Did Springsteen have a bigger role than me? I would say yes. Bigger than those? Not really.

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arkansas: The people most responsible for winning the Cold War?

Pope John Paul II
Harry S Truman
Ronald Reagan
Margaret Thatcher

You forgot Sylvester Stallone.

/I Must Break You

arkansas, the real responsible parties behind "winning" the Cold War were the hapless leaders of the Soviet Union, whose paranoia led them to spend their country into the ground building an unsustainable military. Reagan loved taking credit, but he was just lucky enough for it to happen on his shift.

/Bruce!

carmody: arkansas, the real responsible parties behind "winning" the Cold War were the hapless leaders of the Soviet Union, whose paranoia led them to spend their country into the ground building an unsustainable military. Reagan loved taking credit, but he was just lucky enough for it to happen on his shift.

Dont forget the Russian Mafia.

Where's the credit for me? I watched "Newhart" through the eighties, and that had as much to do with the fall of communism as Springsteen did.

Arkansas nailed it.

Drummer gosh darn it, quit spamming every music thread. we know they're gonna be on. geeze

arkansas: The people most responsible for winning the Cold War?

Lots of people point to those in the west as responsbile for ending the Cold War, but you have to give Mikhail Gorbachev some credit too. Had there been a different type of leader in power, the end of the war could have been ugly. Gorby has the sense to realize the Soviet system was broken and has the courage to do something about it.

The Dogs of War: Drummer gosh darn it, quit spamming every music thread. we know they're gonna be on. geeze

He did say he was sorry.

arkansas: US taxpayers had a large role, many military personnel from all over the globe did also. The good people of East and West Germany had a big role.

Did Springsteen have a bigger role than me? I would say yes. Bigger than those? Not really.

carmody: arkansas, the real responsible parties behind "winning" the Cold War were the hapless leaders of the Soviet Union, whose paranoia led them to spend their country into the ground building an unsustainable military.

you folks combine to be more full of win than any of my high school history teachers. and carmody, i hope no one's echoing your last phrase there about the american empire anytime soon.


/scary

Bu...but..Reagan said BOO and the commies shiat their pants, then the wall fell down.

Limbaugh and Hannity lied? GTFOOH

barneyfifesbullet: Bu...but..Reagan said BOO and the commies shiat their pants, then the wall fell down.

Limbaugh and Hannity lied? GTFOOH

He'll be here all week, folks!

OlafTheBent: It's "DEUCE"... not "douche"

/"Wrapped up like a DEUCE, another runner in the night..."

To be fair, Springsteen's version is very clearly "deuce". Manfred Mann's? Come on.

carmody 2008-07-16 07:36:09 PM
arkansas, the real responsible parties behind "winning" the Cold War were the hapless leaders of the Soviet Union, whose paranoia led them to spend their country into the ground building an unsustainable military. Reagan loved taking credit, but he was just lucky enough for it to happen on his shift.

Carmody proves, ONCE AGAIN, that Dems/Liberals/Leftist will go to ANY LENGTH to:
1) Deny the truth
2) Deny the truth
and
3) Deny the truth.

I deserve more credit than Bruce. I got a nice letter from Uncle Sam saying thanks for winning the cold war to prove it.

Soviets were spending like drunken sailors. The SDI freaked them out and pushed them over the edge. Even Gorby said that. Hate Reagan if you like, but his pushing that program had a heck of a lot to do with it.

Shouldn't the other defective economic systems have already have failed by now. What's keeping them afloat if it's the system itself that causes failure instead of outside stimulus?

Ronald Reagan may have had a role in ending the Cold War, but his belligerence and cowboy mentality could just as easily have taken a wrong turn and ended in global thermonuclear war. Not a wise gamble I think. The USSR would've collapsed soon anyway. He just made sure they were broke, hungry, paranoid, and armed to the teeth when it happened.

And a lot of 3rd World people would agree, seeing as Reagan's support of groups he described as "the Moral Equivalent of the Founding Fathers" were going around raping and killing innocent people.

People like Lech Walesa, Mikhail Gorbachev and Pope John Paul II (and even Bruce Springsteen) deserve as much credit for ending the Cold War as Ronald Raygun. And they did it in a more morally upstanding, and less dangerous, manner.

/soapbox

It all added up to something right?

It had meaning?

After 20 years.

Right?

Right?!?!

Imagine what lost songs and thoughts and beliefs that have died with your parents and grandparents.

FLEAS.

TICKS.

WORMS.

MAGGOTS.

Nothing we do is eternal other than the scars we leave on the face of this planet.

We dance and we struggle against the inevitable death that awaits us all, and in fear, we restrict ourselves.

I challenge you to do something with your life that is outside of what the Illuminati demands of you.

THX-1138 RUN FOR YOU LIFE!

You, are becoming gods.
There's a new master of creation and it's YOU!
You've unraveled DNA,
and at the same time you've cultivated bacteria strong enough to kill every living thing...
you think you're ready for that much power... you lot?
You lot?!

Cheaky bastards,
you're running around science like kids with guns.
Hands up.
Hands up if you think you've got it right.
Yeah there's always one...
I can see ya...
If you want the position of god then accept the responsibility.

If you want to listen to something worthwile about the Berlin Wall, go find a copy of "The Wall" by John Kay. Sadly, it is tough to find the really good Steppenwolf songs.

/Goosebumps, you will have them

The DBS: Soviets were spending like drunken sailors. The SDI freaked them out and pushed them over the edge. Even Gorby said that. Hate Reagan if you like, but his pushing that program had a heck of a lot to do with it.

It's true in that Reagan's support for SDI "pushed them over the edge." But, it's also true that they were going over that edge anyway. It was more like the straw that broke the camel's back.

Springsteen? Was this written by some N.J. journalist? What's next, Bon Jovi helped end apartheid?

Hasn't anyone seen the footage of Regan calling for hte wall to come down?

Why does Springsteen get so much credit...for anything? I don't hate his music, and some of his "not filler" is okay, but gee whiz, the guy's an East Coast John Cougar: pandering via vanilla and averageness. Breeze in the trees.

SuperCatBarf

Because he's associated with the left and so it's better for him to get credit for the fall of the USSR (or Gorby, or the pope, hell, even Jimmy farkin' Carter) than The Enemy.

btw, a thought for all you folks - if Bruce WASN'T a spineless butt-monkey, he would not have been allowed to appear in East Germany.

I am from the great garden state and Bruce Springsteen can solve all the worlds problems, the question is will the world let him?

rpl: SuperCatBarf

Because he's associated with the left and so it's better for him to get credit for the fall of the USSR (or Gorby, or the pope, hell, even Jimmy farkin' Carter) than The Enemy.

btw, a thought for all you folks - if Bruce WASN'T a spineless butt-monkey, he would not have been allowed to appear in East Germany.

Responding to me really backs up your argument. BTW, I don't think Bruce gets credit for the fall of Gorbachev, the Pope, or Jimmy Carter.

Is the term "spineless butt-monkey" a reference to the size of a man's nose?

The_Time_Master: Cheaky bastards,
you're running around science like kids with guns.
Hands up.
Hands up if you think you've got it right.
Yeah there's always one...
I can see ya...
If you want the position of god then accept the responsibility.

Is that from "Darkness at the Edge of Town"?

I thought David Hasselhoff was responsible for the Berlin Wall coming down.

Looks like the Boss may open for Obama in Denver

Link

REVVED up like a deuce!

Or from Asbury Park - Cut loose like a deuce.

"Bruce did you know that you were responsible for the wall coming down?"

"Well I am with State Farm hopefully my homeowners covers that..."

"No, the Berlin Wall?"

"huh? I live in Jersey man, you got the wrong Bruce Springsteen.."