I guess the New Yorker was desperate for attention.

Nice. This thread oughta be good for a chuckle or two.

I know they were trying to go for a satire, but I honestly don't see what the satire is supposed to be saying.

They say it's satire, it clearly is, what's the importance here?

DamnYankees: I know they were trying to go for a satire, but I honestly don't see what the satire is supposed to be saying.

This is how some people actually see the Obamas. They're satirizing that idea.

Oh dear.

Norad: Nice. This thread oughta be good for a chuckle or two.

Just what I was thinking. Let's see what happens!


*leans over, offers beer*

It'll be an excellent litmus test.

as i look at that cover, the first thing that pops into my head is that conservatives will realize they have yet to accuse the obamas of burning the american flag.

JerseyTim: DamnYankees: I know they were trying to go for a satire, but I honestly don't see what the satire is supposed to be saying.

This is how some people actually see the Obamas. They're satirizing that idea.

I'm not going to vote for Obama, but I would think most educated people would be able to recognize the satirical aspects of this. It's pretty obvious, given the tone of the article itself.

JerseyTim: DamnYankees: I know they were trying to go for a satire, but I honestly don't see what the satire is supposed to be saying.

This is how some people actually see the Obamas. They're satirizing that idea.

But then its not really satire, its reinforcement. I mean, I don't get it. Shouldn't satire be over-the-top and also be placed in some sort of context? Again, I'm not offended, I just don't get it.

It can't be satire if it is 100% accurate!

It isn't tasteless, though satire need not be. What it is, however, is late on the draw, which makes it poor satire.

DamnYankees: Shouldn't satire be over-the-top and also be placed in some sort of context?

Ok, you got me. I lol'd.

Maybe it would be funnier if they had Obama as a pig saying "My place is a sty",

Mordant: Maybe it would be funnier if they had Obama as a pig saying "My place is a sty",

The New Yorker is stealing my ideas.

Yanks_RSJ: Mordant: Maybe it would be funnier if they had Obama as a pig saying "My place is a sty",

The New Yorker is stealing my ideas.

That irreverence! That wit! I'd recognize it anywhere. Some charlatan has stolen a Ziggy and passed it off as his own.

JerseyTim: That irreverence! That wit! I'd recognize it anywhere. Some charlatan has stolen a Ziggy and passed it off as his own.

To the archives!

Green, huh? Well, I'll just go ahead and preemptively WHARRGARBL

I think it works on a number of levels. For instance, I was offended at the racial stereotyping when I first saw the cover, although obviously I recognize the satirical aspect and yes, it is a little amusing.

The cover is intended to provoke discussion over perceptions of race, I think - and it does so by pushing the more hideous reality, that those stereotypes keep being almost unthinkingly perpetuated, right in in your face. If your gut reaction to it is horror, you can't help but think about the strength of these stereotypes, and how they reflect on fears of immigration, of critical thought about the United States, of deviation from the political template of a white middle-aged guy with shiny hair, a pandering attitude and a mute mannequin wife.

Also - why did they give Michelle an afro? That doesn't even make sense. Isn't that just blatantly racist, or am I missing something? There's nothing satirical about her in a 'fro. The muslim garb and the fist bump at least have some relationship to reality.

I can't wait for their next cover... you know, the one where McCain is in a wheelchair calling his wife a c*nt, while ignoring his injured old wife and taking money from savings and loan lobbyists. Now THAT will be funny.

ITS BECAUSE ALL OF NEW YORK IS OWNED BY THE J00Z RIGHT???

DamnYankees: Also - why did they give Michelle an afro? That doesn't even make sense. Isn't that just blatantly racist, or am I missing something? There's nothing satirical about her in a 'fro. The muslim garb and the fist bump at least have some relationship to reality.

Maybe it's a nod to all those young blacks who became Muslim in the 60s and 70s. I don't know, I'm just hazarding a guess.

DamnYankees: Also - why did they give Michelle an afro? That doesn't even make sense. Isn't that just blatantly racist, or am I missing something? There's nothing satirical about her in a 'fro. The muslim garb and the fist bump at least have some relationship to reality.

People have claimed she is a secret white-hating black radical in the vein of 60s radicals.... thus the Afro.

not that this is the best satire i've ever seen...

bad cover or not, though, New Yorker is still about the only decent magazine left in America.

DamnYankees: Also - why did they give Michelle an afro? That doesn't even make sense. Isn't that just blatantly racist, or am I missing something? There's nothing satirical about her in a 'fro. The muslim garb and the fist bump at least have some relationship to reality.


afro's used to be controversial, believe it or not. a lot of white people were insulted that black people would be proud to wear their hair the way it grows naturally. now, of course, it just looks cool.

DamnYankees: I know they were trying to go for a satire, but I honestly don't see what the satire is supposed to be saying.

You're not the first person to admit not getting a "New Yorker" cartoon, and you certainly won't be the last.

afro's used to be controversial, believe it or not. a lot of white people were insulted that black people would be proud to wear their hair the way it grows naturally. now, of course, it just looks cool.


This is a side tangent, but I"ve always found it retarded when black nationalists tried to claim Afros and dreads where their "natural" heaircuts.

They are not natural. They take a lot of care and upkeep to make them work.

The farking african bushmen aren't walking around with perfect dreads and afros...

Not amused.

Everyone instantly recognizes satire.
You know how on Fark when a link to a satirical article is posted, no one ever reads the story and believes it's real?

America is a nation of intellectuals.
That cover will not reinforce the beliefs of mindless idiots that Barack and Michelle Obama are America hating Muslim terrorists because there are no mindless idiots in the U. S. of A.

HUSSEIN

Bill Frist: afro's used to be controversial, believe it or not. a lot of white people were insulted that black people would be proud to wear their hair the way it grows naturally. now, of course, it just looks cool.


This is a side tangent, but I"ve always found it retarded when black nationalists tried to claim Afros and dreads where their "natural" heaircuts.

They are not natural. They take a lot of care and upkeep to make them work.

The farking african bushmen aren't walking around with perfect dreads and afros...


fair enough. on balance, what is more natural: using a comb to make your hair poofy, or using chemicals strong enough to burn your scalp to straighten your hair enough that you can part it?

Bill Frist: not that this is the best satire i've ever seen...

bad cover or not, though, New Yorker is still about the only decent magazine left in America.

I'm sorry, Afros are natural? Since when? If you just let a black person's hair grow without doing anything to it, you aint gonna get an afro.

flavor of the month: fair enough. on balance, what is more natural: using a comb to make your hair poofy, or using chemicals strong enough to burn your scalp to straighten your hair enough that you can part it?

Well, I don't really see having "natural" hair as anything important. Most men shave, for example. There's nothing special about having "naturally" formed facial hair.

DamnYankees: Bill Frist: not that this is the best satire i've ever seen...

bad cover or not, though, New Yorker is still about the only decent magazine left in America.

I'm sorry, Afros are natural? Since when? If you just let a black person's hair grow without doing anything to it, you aint gonna get an afro.

some people actually do get fros.
others get dreadlocks. just fyi.

DamnYankees: flavor of the month: fair enough. on balance, what is more natural: using a comb to make your hair poofy, or using chemicals strong enough to burn your scalp to straighten your hair enough that you can part it?

Well, I don't really see having "natural" hair as anything important. Most men shave, for example. There's nothing special about having "naturally" formed facial hair.

40 years ago, hair was incredibly important. the autobiography of malcom X goes on for pages and pages about the implications of straightening your hair. before the civil rights movement, almost all urban black people straightened their hair. when black men and many black women stopped straightening their hair, there was a perception that it was confrontational. whether it was or not, who knows. but that's why the cartoonist gave mrs. obama an afro.

It's just satire. Um, isn't it?

Nobody who would fall for this nonsense reads the New Yorker anyway.

Actually, let me edit that a bit...

Nobody who would fall for this nonsense reads the New Yorker anyway.

Bill Frist: New Yorker is still about the only decent magazine left in America.

Fallen a long way since Tina Brown left.

LinkFOXNews' E.D. Hill On Obama's Fist Bump: "A Terrorist Fist Jab?" (new window)

Man. Screw your government. You guys need to take up arms against your media. They really need sorting out.

snuff3r: LinkFOXNews' E.D. Hill On Obama's Fist Bump: "A Terrorist Fist Jab?" (new window)

Man. Screw your government. You guys need to take up arms against your media. They really need sorting out.

Nah, the media is mostly harmless. You just have to watch out during sweeps month. As long as they keep the ad rates up, though, they're pretty toothless.

Will National Review's cover have John McCain giving a bj to Ho Chi Mihn?

Just as a satire, you know.

snuff3r: LinkFOXNews' E.D. Hill On Obama's Fist Bump: "A Terrorist Fist Jab?" (new window)

Man. Screw your government. You guys need to take up arms against your media. They really need sorting out.

Seriously.

TheOther [TotalFark] Quote 2008-07-13 09:09:01 PM
Bill Frist: New Yorker is still about the only decent magazine left in America.

Fallen a long way since Tina Brown left.

The only things I think they need to fix is their fiction (gotten very stale and predictable again, even though it was good for awhile) and the poetry (which has always been atrocious, but still..)

Nabb1: Nah, the media is mostly harmless. You just have to watch out during sweeps month. As long as they keep the ad rates up, though, they're pretty toothless.

I'm a firm believer that 1) the media creates a constant barrage of dumb and 2) for the most part people are stupid. It worries me some of the stuff I see on TV because I know someone, somewhere is believing the crap they're seeing.

/tin foil hat! Stat!

Satire. Right. Because Joe 12 pack is always savvy when it comes to satire. And no one who would work at the New Yorker would be bitter at Obama about anything.

Mugato: Because "Joe 12 pack" has a New Yorker subscription?

CougarJeff: Green, huh? Well, I'll just go ahead and preemptively WHARRGARBL

Did somebody say...WHARRGARBL?



/any excuse

It's satire, calm the fark down. Why the hell is the entire world so uppity? Michelle is the new Jackie O and Obama needs to stop his shenanigans and give a better explaination for last week.

snuff3r: Man. Screw your government. You guys need to take up arms against your media. They really need sorting out.

Well in all fairness, that was Fox News and we all know that isn't really news. On a side note, I hear Australia is beautiful this time of year.

/Maybe you can show me what it's like in the land down under
//in your pants

EsteeFlwrPot: Well in all fairness, that was Fox News and we all know that isn't really news. On a side note, I hear Australia is beautiful this time of year.

It's not. At least, Sydney isn't. Overcast all the time.