There is no irony here, as the rain in question did not occur on anyone's wedding day.

I, High Magistrate of the Irony Council, Fark Subdivision, rule against you, submitter. You are to be thrown to the Sharkticons.

Blackadder: "Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is?"
Baldrick: "Yes, it's like goldy and bronzy only it's made out of iron."

Would one expect a large quantity of water falling from the sky to encourage a fire? No way, one would expect that large quantity of water to discourage the fire.

/personification?

Are they afraid that the fire fighters might not get credit or something?

If it's near San Francisco it could be raining men.

Meh, call me when the plague of locusts shows up.

Actual first line of article: "Violent thunderstorms brought rain bursts that modestly helped firefighting efforts Sunday, but the downpours also triggered mudslides that complicated California's unfolding wildfire disaster."

Submitter appears to be of the Headline news generation... nothing under 24 point font need be read.

Fires...mudslides...rebuild. Fires...mudslides...rebuild. The cycle of California life.

84Charlie: Meh, call me when the plague of locusts shows up.

That'll be next month, the way things are going...

cksewell: Fires...mudslides...rebuild. Fires...mudslides...rebuild. The cycle of California life.

There's a flaming chocolate joke in their somewhere.

Blackadder & Balders ...

From the first sentence of the article: "Violent thunderstorms brought rain bursts that modestly helped firefighting efforts Sunday."

Seriously, fark used to have clever headlines. Now its just, "If you don't read the article, than if you take the headline at face value, it sounds counter-intuitive."

Haha. We all got that angle from many news stories 5 years ago.

More abuse of the irony tag. That's not irony, if you know what complicates means. It doesn't mean 'detriments' - it means make more complicated. That doesn't conflict with the act of helping.

Yeah, but on the bright side there are no earthquakes or tsunamis to report.

There is also the fact that T-Storms tend to have lots of lightning which can start even more fires. The water they drop over a limited area is less useful than the 10 other fires the storm causes.

jaylectricity: cksewell: Fires...mudslides...rebuild. Fires...mudslides...rebuild. The cycle of California life.

There's a flaming chocolate joke in their somewhere.

Something for everybody....;^)

New Orleans still in the dark ages...

d976: Yeah, but on the bright side there are no earthquakes or tsunamis to report.

A lot of little quakes these last few days.

REALLY hoping they're not leading toward something big.

California has the worst fiscal management of any state in America. Maybe they plan to snuff out the fires by dropping wads of money on them.

CALI'S DEBT

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knucklebreather: Submitter appears to be of the Headline news generation... nothing under 24 point font need be read.

It can still be ironic even if it ultimately makes sense. The only requirement is that the statement is incongruous prima facie.

The fires don't even come close to the problems of illegal immigration and a assploding population here.

Did someone leave a cake out in the rain?

Yeah, mudslide bad

At first is sounds silly but when you think about it all that rain will produce floods and mudslides which will make it difficult for firefighters to get to the fire.

/I RTFA, Yay!

Blue Summer Union:Maybe they plan to snuff out the fires by dropping wads of money on them.

I have nothing humorous to contribute to this thread so I will just say THIS.

jaylectricity 2008-07-13 11:16:14 PM
cksewell: Fires...mudslides...rebuild. Fires...mudslides...rebuild. The cycle of California life.

There's a flaming chocolate joke in their somewhere.

The article is from San Francisco.
There are a lot of flaming jokes in San Francisco

You know what *really* complicate the issues of California wildfires?

People moving into a wildfire prone area and then refusing to participate in adequate conservation efforts, and actively protesting the behaviors that are required to prevent massive wildfires.

Once again, I don't feel bad for the poor widdle Californians making their own beds and then being asked to sleep in them.

Perfect use of ironic tag.

Daedalus27: There is also the fact that T-Storms tend to have lots of lightning which can start even more fires. The water they drop over a limited area is less useful than the 10 other fires the storm causes.

But, somehow other states don't seem to have this problem. In fact, in the last 2 months, I have had 30 or so separate thunderstorm cells pass by, and not one report of a thunderstorm started fire. I think you are barking up the wrong tree, with this theory.

Acid_Aspirations: The fires don't even come close to the problems of illegal immigration and a assploding population here.

1. The fires are dangerous and a nuisance.
2. Illegal Immigration is good for the economy.
3. Assploding population is irresponsible.

milk_plus: If it's near San Francisco it could be raining men.

Hallelujah

cksewell: Acid_Aspirations: The fires don't even come close to the problems of illegal immigration and a assploding population here.

1. The fires are dangerous and a nuisance.
2. Illegal Immigration is good for the economy.
3. Assploding population is irresponsible.

FIFY

Legal immigration is much better for the economy than illegal immigration -- which is almost neutral, and in some areas a drain and a negative on the economy.

amanogowa: But, somehow other states don't seem to have this problem. In fact, in the last 2 months, I have had 30 or so separate thunderstorm cells pass by, and not one report of a thunderstorm started fire. I think you are barking up the wrong tree, with this theory.

No, he's 100% right. Well over a thousand fires in the last month, almost all because of the thunderstorm striking a drought-ravaged state.

amanogowa: You know what *really* complicate the issues of California wildfires?

People moving into a wildfire prone area and then refusing to participate in adequate conservation efforts, and actively protesting the behaviors that are required to prevent massive wildfires. from other states moving to California.

FTFM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: almost all because of the thunderstorm striking a drought-ravaged state.

ThunderstormS. Plural.

Sorry.

Senor Awesome: amanogowa: You know what *really* complicate the issues of California wildfires?

People moving into a wildfire prone area and then refusing to participate in adequate conservation efforts, and actively protesting the behaviors that are required to prevent massive wildfires. from other states moving to California.

FTFM

It doesn't matter who they are or where they come from -- they are all in California, and they are all refusing to do a little work to prevent these fires and then insist on acting surprised and like the rest of the world should care every time they light a fire.

Blue Summer Union: California has the worst fiscal management of any state in America. Maybe they plan to snuff out the fires by dropping wads of money on them.

Well, yeah, you could live in a state with a balanced budget. But then you'd have to cop to living in Virginia, and who the hell needs that?

I'm watching a tight little thunderstorm on the radar hoping it will come here and wash my truck.

It must suck to live where they go all out to fight every fire leading to massive amounts of tinder lying around for the dry year.

amanogowa: But, somehow other states don't seem to have this problem. In fact, in the last 2 months, I have had 30 or so separate thunderstorm cells pass by, and not one report of a thunderstorm started fire. I think you are barking up the wrong tree, with this theory.

It has to do with the conditions present in California that may not exist in other states. Here is a story on the issue of lightning caused fires:

Dry Thunderstorms (new window)

amanogowa: But, somehow other states don't seem to have this problem. In fact, in the last 2 months, I have had 30 or so separate thunderstorm cells pass by, and not one report of a thunderstorm started fire. I think you are barking up the wrong tree, with this theory.

You're from Michigan too? = )

amanogowa: It doesn't matter who they are or where they come from -- they are all in California, and they are all refusing to do a little work to prevent these fires and then insist on acting surprised and like the rest of the world should care every time they light a fire.

I'm sure the federal gov't's policy on fire suppression had nothing to do with it. Last I checked it's not the California state gov't that handles controlled burns in national forests. I'm also sure that the drought in CA had nothing to do with it.

I know, it must be the Mexicans!

Dammit! Not again!

Daedalus27: amanogowa: But, somehow other states don't seem to have this problem. In fact, in the last 2 months, I have had 30 or so separate thunderstorm cells pass by, and not one report of a thunderstorm started fire. I think you are barking up the wrong tree, with this theory.

It has to do with the conditions present in California that may not exist in other states. Here is a story on the issue of lightning caused fires:

Dry Thunderstorms (new window)

"When rain falls from the cloud into the dry air, the raindrops evaporate before they reach the ground. "

Sorry, I guess I misspoke. I assumed that by 'Thunderstorms' we were talking 'Thunderstorms' not 'lightning'.

I was wrong and admit it.

Today was only the third time in a month I've been able to look at the sky and see blue instead of smoke.

It was a very good thing!

All this argument on the irony tag is just adding...fuel...to...uh...something...

Or am I just...*bark*ing up the wrong tree? Possibly? I'll just...Leave...

Senor Awesome: amanogowa: It doesn't matter who they are or where they come from -- they are all in California, and they are all refusing to do a little work to prevent these fires and then insist on acting surprised and like the rest of the world should care every time they light a fire.

I'm sure the federal gov't's policy on fire suppression had nothing to do with it. Last I checked it's not the California state gov't that handles controlled burns in national forests. I'm also sure that the drought in CA had nothing to do with it.

I know, it must be the Mexicans!

Dammit! Not again!

Every time these fire threads pop up on fark, it is pointed out (and linked to articles explaining) that the severe fires are a result of failing to let little fires burn -- the little fires burn the scrub brush and leave the big trees alone. Californians actively protest policies that would allow appropriate controlled burns, and insist on actively preventing these controlled burns *by building in areas requiring controlled burns*. It is not just the the National Parks that are the issue. It is all the homes in the scrub-lands preventing conservation efforts and all the eco-nuts protesting these controlled burns due to a failure to understand that not all 'wildfires are bad.'

Many people do not understand that fires and floods are a natural part of the life-cycle for many of the wild habitats. As a response to natural selection in arid areas many plants produce toxins in the soil that prevent seedlings from germination. These stands grow senile until a fire wipes them out and neutralizes the toxins. Other seed will not germinate until the mechanical action of scraping along flood creeks occur.
It's like someone building a house on a beach where wave action will eventually destroy the building.

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Today was only the third time in a month I've been able to look at the sky and see blue instead of smoke.

It was a very good thing!

Aaaannnnnddddd we're about to lose it again. Great. Well the benefits are that I get to feel like a smoker and come into work after my 1.5 hr commute with everyone asking if I went camping over the weekend/go take a shower. Ah how I love the ash on my car and wearing Eau De Firestorm.

wdelv: It's like someone building a house on a beach where wave action will eventually destroy the building.

You forgot the bit where they protest the building of breakers, and actively remove some of the sand between the water line and their house.

You add those two facts in, and we will be close to a working analogy.

blkhwk86: Aaaannnnnddddd we're about to lose it again. Great. Well the benefits are that I get to feel like a smoker and come into work after my 1.5 hr commute with everyone asking if I went camping over the weekend/go take a shower. Ah how I love the ash on my car and wearing Eau De Firestorm.

It's getting really goddamn depressing to look into the sky and see nothing. It's really starting to affect my moods. Some kind of weird grey-sky depression, or something.

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: blkhwk86: Aaaannnnnddddd we're about to lose it again. Great. Well the benefits are that I get to feel like a smoker and come into work after my 1.5 hr commute with everyone asking if I went camping over the weekend/go take a shower. Ah how I love the ash on my car and wearing Eau De Firestorm.

It's getting really goddamn depressing to look into the sky and see nothing. It's really starting to affect my moods. Some kind of weird grey-sky depression, or something.

Yeah, one reason i'm glad i'm not in the central valley anymore but in the east bay of SF and work in the city. I love how i JUST washed and waxed my car and this morning. I'm just praying it isn't 115 again anytime soon. My car had a gallon of coolant in the trunk burst. Oh and mood, yeah, i've noticed i'm a lot...meaner and not as happy to be around since the grey-sky, red sun started a few weeks ago.