Atheist heads asplode

hey, wait a minute ... didn't he sing "I dont believe in Jesus christ" in one of his solo album?

globalwarmingpraiser:Atheist heads asplode

Hell, everybodies head is exploding on this one.

John Lennon wasn't an atheist and "Imagine" wasn't an atheist song per se. The song was meant to be taken conceptually not literally. As in - just imagine what we could have if we put aside those things for moment that create tension between us. Atheists certainly have attached the song to their cause however.

The same applies to the song "God" to which HHH references one of the song's lines though out of context.

In the song "God' Lennon lyrically purges everything he believes in or was taught about following the break-up of the Beatles in order to cleanse himself and move on with Yoko. In "God" he also sings the line "I don't believe in Beatles" and also "Zimmerman" (Dylan), and "Elvis" but that obviously wasn't the case either.

Lennon did a ton of acid, and he dug whatever he dug at the moment.

Ya know, it's entirely possible to think Christ said and stood for some great things without being a Christian. I'm an agnostic, and it's not Jesus I have a problem with, it's his fanboys.

El Freak

Ya know, it's entirely possible to think Christ said and stood for some great things without being a Christian.

Jebus is just all right with me, too.

Well, they were more popular than Jesus.

hmmm...looks like Mark David Chapman was trying to prevent this from happening. However, I'm sure there would've been better ways to go about it.

/didn't RTFA
//I'm leaving now

Yes subby...because Lennon identified with the biblical Christ and his message, the Beatles were a Christian band. Yep. That's exactly what it means.

Imagine no heaven,,,Ya Da Ya Da Ya Da...
A song about living in peace and for all the religious nuts to stop starting wars..

I think Imagine is a horrible song (It insists upon itself)

El Freak:Ya know, it's entirely possible to think Christ said and stood for some great things without being a Christian. I'm an agnostic, and it's not Jesus I have a problem with, it's his fanboys.

Exactly. I'm an atheist, and I'm a big fan of the moral teachings of Christ. I basically take Thomas Jefferson's view of the Bible - strip out all the unbelievable magic stuff, and you're left with a pretty awesome moral code.

"Jesus was all right, but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me." --John Lennon

El Freak:Ya know, it's entirely possible to think Christ said and stood for some great things without being a Christian. I'm an agnostic, and it's not Jesus I have a problem with, it's his fanboys.

Exactly. It's sort of sad just how much his teachings were corrupted and how few of his "believers" actually follow his teachings.

El Freak:Ya know, it's entirely possible to think Christ said and stood for some great things without being a Christian. I'm an agnostic, and it's not Jesus I have a problem with, it's his fanboys.

Bingo

He probably believed it at the time he said it. Musicians and actors tend to believe in something very strongly before they believe very strongly in something else a few minutes later.

At least he wasn't a Scientologist.

Jesus was Jewish 2.0

Jesus was way cool
Everybody liked Jesus
Everybody wanted to hang out with him
Anything he wanted to do, he did
He turned water into wine
And if he wanted to
He could have turned wheat into marijuana
Or sugar into cocaine
Or vitamin pills into amphetamines

He walked on the water
And swam on the land
He would tell these stories
And people would listen
He was really cool

If you were blind or lame
You just went to Jesus
And he would put his hands on you
And you would be healed
That's so cool

He could've played guitar better than Hendrix
He could've told the future
He could've baked the most delicious cake in the world
He could've scored more goals than Wayne Gretzky
He could've danced better than Barishnikov
Jesus could have been funnier than any comedian you can think of
Jesus was way cool

He told people to eat his body and drink his blood
That's so cool
Jesus was so cool
But then some people got jealous of how cool he was
So they killed him
But then he rose from the dead
He rose from the dead, danced around
Then went up to heaven
I mean, that's so cool
Jesus was way cool

No wonder there are so many Christians

ceejayoz:El Freak:Ya know, it's entirely possible to think Christ said and stood for some great things without being a Christian. I'm an agnostic, and it's not Jesus I have a problem with, it's his fanboys.

Exactly. I'm an atheist, and I'm a big fan of the moral teachings of Christ. I basically take Thomas Jefferson's view of the Bible - strip out all the unbelievable magic stuff, and you're left with a pretty awesome moral code.

And all that stuff about Jesus claiming to be the son of God and the only way to the Father. All that stuff.

tHERE's nothing wrong with admiring true Christ-like behavior, like turning the other cheek or doing unto others as you would have them do unto you.

doesn't make Lennon a religious freak.
He was equally impressed by Buddah, I imagine.

Jesus is passe.

Jeebus was a pretty big jerk if you ask me. There are some asshat-ish things he did, and they changed my thoughts about him from thinking he was just a regular Jewish guy with ideas to a complete attention whoring jerk.

Charlie Manson approves.

I see no conflict here. Believing in Christ's teachings is not the same as believing in his divinity.

Jesus is just alright with me. Christianity on the other hand...

EsteeFlwrPot:

Jeebus was a pretty big jerk if you ask me.

What asshat-ish things did he do that changed your thoughts about him?

ceejayoz:El Freak:Ya know, it's entirely possible to think Christ said and stood for some great things without being a Christian. I'm an agnostic, and it's not Jesus I have a problem with, it's his fanboys.

Exactly. I'm an atheist, and I'm a big fan of the moral teachings of Christ. I basically take Thomas Jefferson's view of the Bible - strip out all the unbelievable magic stuff, and you're left with a pretty awesome moral code.

I hope you don't have his view--he said that all that magic stuff was put in there by the Jews.

/I know everyone is supposed to love Jefferson
//but I think he was a bigoted hypocrite who wanted the credit of having the right ethics
///without the inconvenience often attached to ethical behavior

Of course with all the drugs he was on, it's quite likely he thought HE was Christ.

Glitchwerks:Jesus was way cool
Everybody liked Jesus
Everybody wanted to hang out with him
Anything he wanted to do, he did
He turned water into wine
And if he wanted to
He could have turned wheat into marijuana
Or sugar into cocaine
Or vitamin pills into amphetamines

He walked on the water
And swam on the land
He would tell these stories
And people would listen
He was really cool

If you were blind or lame
You just went to Jesus
And he would put his hands on you
And you would be healed
That's so cool

He could've played guitar better than Hendrix
He could've told the future
He could've baked the most delicious cake in the world
He could've scored more goals than Wayne Gretzky
He could've danced better than Barishnikov
Jesus could have been funnier than any comedian you can think of
Jesus was way cool

He told people to eat his body and drink his blood
That's so cool
Jesus was so cool
But then some people got jealous of how cool he was
So they killed him
But then he rose from the dead
He rose from the dead, danced around
Then went up to heaven
I mean, that's so cool
Jesus was way cool

No wonder there are so many Christians

But did he have a detachable penis? if he does, I found it :}

Brettster808:Atheists certainly have attached the song to their cause however.

[Citation Needed]

The only instance of Imagine having anything to do with Atheism that I have ever heard of is the stupid comparison of "Imagine No Religion" played over images of Naziism in Expelled.

doyner:I see no conflict here. Believing in Christ's teachings is not the same as believing in his divinity.

Jesus is just alright with me. Christianity on the other hand...

Also: This.

micah1701:I think Imagine is a horrible song (It insists upon itself)

The Money Pit. That is my response to that

Kyosuke:Well, they were more popular than Jesus.

Hmmm...I'm going to guess that even at this late date, more people attend church in one week (certainly one year), than all of the combined concert ticket and album sales of the Beetles.

If I was on a week long binge, ran outta booze and some bearded dude shows up with enough wine to keep the party goin... I might be inclined to call that guy my personal good, too.

Fictional Character.
/Jesus or Lennon?
//I Don't know

I'm a Christian, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

\not a freak
\\just believes in God/Jesus, and tries to help the poor and be kind to everyone like He wanted. Doesn't take much more than that IMO
\\\Always thought Science was boring in school
////Slashies for Christ!!!11eleventyuno3423

I was a christian too.

I got over it.

EsteeFlwrPot

As I've already stated he was Jewish 2.0 I have to assume it was the abrupt logo and icon changes that irked you.

Thud

Then why did he marry the anti-christ?

Christ was cool, Christians suck.

"The Ballad of John and Yoko," just made a whole lot more sense...

Batman in the Operating Room:He probably believed it at the time he said it. Musicians and actors tend to believe in something very strongly before they believe very strongly in something else a few minutes later.

Once he got on board with the peace and love thing, that was pretty much his personal message for the rest of his life.

There's a scene in the "Imagine: John Lennon" documentary where some random stoner shows up at his estate, and instead of calling the cops, Lennon said, "Are you hungry?" and invited him in and fed him. I think Jesus would approve.

"In 1966 the Rutles faced the biggest threat to their careers. Nasty in a widely quoted interview had apparently claimed that the Rutles were bigger than God, and was reported to have gone on to say that God had never had a hit record.

The story spread like wildfire in America. Many fans burnt their albums, many more burnt their fingers attempting to burn their albums. Album sales sky-rocketed. People were buying them just to burn them.

But in fact it was all a ghastly mistake. Nasty, talking to a slightly deaf journalist, had claimed only that the Rutles were bigger than Rod. Rod Stewart would not be big for another eight years, and certainly at this stage hadn't had a hit. At a press conference, Nasty apologized to God, Rod and the press, and the tour went ahead as planned. It would be the Rutles' last."

DoctorE0:But since god is Jesus and visa versa he can't be good.
The god of the bible is a terrible character.

Not to get a Bevetity on you, but you seem to not understand the concept of the trinity. The father, the son and the holy ghost are all god, with different personalities and stuff. So they can be the same entity while being the father role, the friend role and the crazy murdering ninja role.

cchris_39:Kyosuke:Well, they were more popular than Jesus.

Hmmm...I'm going to guess that even at this late date, more people attend church in one week (certainly one year), than all of the combined concert ticket and album sales of the Beetles.

And I would guess that you need to get off of my lawn, young-un.

John Lennon on the "more popular than Jesus" controversy.

micah1701:I think Imagine is a horrible song (It insists upon itself)

Kind of like 'The Godfather'.

maniacbastard:DoctorE0:But since god is Jesus and visa versa he can't be good.
The god of the bible is a terrible character.

Not to get a Bevetity on you, but you seem to not understand the concept of the trinity. The father, the son and the holy ghost are all god, with different personalities and stuff. So they can be the same entity while being the father role, the friend role and the crazy murdering ninja role.

Kind of a 'good cop - bad cop' sort of situation.

I never used this ignore feature thingie but Larry the Fish done it. Let's see if I can make you happy and insult you at the same time.

Religion is to passe what Larry the Fish is to an annoying, weak troll. Simile or metaphor?