Hillary Clinton is a sexist!!!!

Atillathepun:Hillary Clinton is a sexist!!!!

Don't be silly, women can't be sexists. It's called feminism.

Yes, but is he going there in 26 minutes?

She's definately out for VP. That comment would be an evergreen for FOX news and the right.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Barack worked out, ate healthy and STILL died of Colon Cancer?

I mean, according to the libs in the Tony Snow thread, that's what you wish on political opponents right?

/Liberalism off

So, Hillary just admitted that instead of trying to fix her failing campaign, she spent her time beautifying herself?

strangeguitar: She's definately out for VP. That comment would be an evergreen for FOX news and the right.

While they spout their candidate's singular message: "I was a P.O.W.".

DrillSergeantPoopyPants: Wouldn't it be hilarious if Barack worked out, ate healthy and STILL died of Colon Cancer?

I mean, according to the libs in the Tony Snow thread, that's what you wish on political opponents right?

/Liberalism off

It sucks to be you, poopy-pants.

DrillSergeantPoopyPants: Wouldn't it be hilarious if Barack worked out, ate healthy and STILL died of Colon Cancer?

I mean, according to the libs in the Tony Snow thread, that's what you wish on political opponents right?

Didnt even bother looking in on that thread (I can just imagine though).

Probably would never have come back if I had.

And then where would I be?

I need my Fark after all.

I would be drooling at the thought of Obama lifting weights and talking about his plan to lower taxes for the middle class, but i'm mad at him for his shinanegans this past week.

Well I wasn't going to say anything, but she really does have a big butt...

EsteeFlwrPot: I would be drooling at the thought of Obama lifting weights and talking about his plan to lower taxes for the middle class, but i'm mad at him for his shinanegans this past week.

you'll still vote for him, though. which is why he knows he can get away with it.

captain_napalm: you'll still vote for him, though. which is why he knows he can get away with it.

I dont know anymore. I want an explanation from him before he gets my vote.

DrillSergeantPoopyPants: Wouldn't it be hilarious if Barack worked out, ate healthy and STILL died of Colon Cancer?

I mean, according to the libs in the Tony Snow thread, that's what you wish on political opponents right?

/Liberalism off

you'll get over it

Obligatory.

EsteeFlwrPot: I want an explanation from him before he gets my vote.

The FISA thing? He's saying it wasn't an easy call. (new window)

Louder And More Dissonant: EsteeFlwrPot: I want an explanation from him before he gets my vote.

The FISA thing? He's saying it wasn't an easy call. (new window)

there you go, problem solved! obama supporters may again feel free to send ten ignorant friends and the guy/girl down the hall you're farking this week off to vote for this perfect nubian god.

/whatever happened to putting politicians into office that ACTUALLY SUPPORT AMERICAN INTERESTS? when did it become acceptable to openly bemoan our status as a global superpower? wouldn't a US president have to kinda, you know, "take sides", as barry laments the flag pin would imply?

I'd be at the gym, except every six weeks or so, when I go get all my hair cut off again.

Though I have to say, I'm somehow not surprised that she puts her looks over her health.

/needs to get a gym membership again
//missing the weight machines

Louder And More Dissonant: The FISA thing? He's saying it wasn't an easy call. (new window)

I still disagree with what he did.

It grants retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies that may have violated the law by cooperating with the Bush Administration's program of warrantless wiretapping. This potentially weakens the deterrent effect of the law and removes an important tool for the American people to demand accountability for past abuses. That's why I support striking Title II from the bill, and will work with Chris Dodd, Jeff Bingaman and others in an effort to remove this provision in the Senate.

I dont know much about this shiat but common sense tells me he should have removed the provision and then approved the bill, not the other way around. Now we're all farked and he's trying to remove a part of something that was already approved. Someone please tell me if im missing something.

Ringshadow: Though I have to say, I'm somehow not surprised that she puts her looks over her health.

as a politican, she has to. looks matter to enough of the voting populace, and are one of the reason obama is being taken seriously, despite his lack of qualificatios.

DrillSergeantPoopyPants: Wouldn't it be hilarious if Barack worked out, ate healthy and STILL died of Colon Cancer?

I mean, according to the libs in the Tony Snow thread, that's what you wish on political opponents right?

/Liberalism off

No, it wouldn't be hilarious, because Obama isn't an apologist and a mouthpiece for a war criminal.

EsteeFlwrPot: I still disagree with what he did.

And I also disagree with what he did, however all other things being equal, right now I am still much more likely to vote for him than for any other candidate for the office (McCain or third party.)

captain_napalm: there you go, problem solved! obama supporters may again feel free to send ten ignorant friends and the guy/girl down the hall you're farking this week off to vote for this perfect nubian god.

/whatever happened to putting politicians into office that ACTUALLY SUPPORT AMERICAN INTERESTS? when did it become acceptable to openly bemoan our status as a global superpower? wouldn't a US president have to kinda, you know, "take sides", as barry laments the flag pin would imply?

Oh, man...

Yeah, I don't like the call Obama made on FISA...but then I read a post like this, and my determination to vote against the interest of people like this douchebag is redoubled.

Thanks, cap'n, for reinvigorating my efforts to piss off people like you. I look forward to eight years of listening to your pathetic whining.

Lionel Mandrake: Yeah, I don't like the call Obama made on FISA...but then I read a post like this, and my determination to vote against the interest of people like this douchebag is redoubled.

wow, didn't take you long to find an excuse, now did it? Obama is an unqualified fraud, and america is slowly realizing that. enjoy the summer, 'cause after november, you'll have to go to Illinois to see him. and that costs more to do now, thanks to your dem congress.

captain_napalm: wow, didn't take you long to find an excuse, now did it? Obama is an unqualified fraud, and america is slowly realizing that. enjoy the summer, 'cause after november, you'll have to go to Illinois to see him. and that costs more to do now, thanks to your dem congress.

Wow, that's good. The republicans have nominated a "maverick" who has his head so far up Dubya's ass he can tell you what George had for breakfast, but based on the FISA vote, Obama is an "unqualified fraud."

Ace Frehley's Ghost: Wow, that's good. The republicans have nominated a "maverick" who has his head so far up Dubya's ass he can tell you what George had for breakfast, but based on the FISA vote, Obama is an "unqualified fraud."

Obama's ENTIRE record and history make him a fraud. the FISA thing further demonstrates how his SUPPORTERS are frauds.

captain_napalm: Louder And More Dissonant: EsteeFlwrPot: I want an explanation from him before he gets my vote.

The FISA thing? He's saying it wasn't an easy call. (new window)

there you go, problem solved! obama supporters may again feel free to send ten ignorant friends and the guy/girl down the hall you're farking this week off to vote for this perfect nubian god.

/whatever happened to putting politicians into office that ACTUALLY SUPPORT AMERICAN INTERESTS? when did it become acceptable to openly bemoan our status as a global superpower? wouldn't a US president have to kinda, you know, "take sides", as barry laments the flag pin would imply?

I'm laughing because you are what's wrong with the country you love so much.

captain_napalm: wow, didn't take you long to find an excuse, now did it?

Wow, you don't understand sarcasm, do you? Here's my REAL reason: I don't like his position on this issue, but I like his position on most others. Altogether, his "I like vs. I don't like" ratio is WAAAAY higher than McCain, or any 3rd Party candidate.

Obama is an unqualified fraud, and america is slowly realizing that.

So slowly that only you can see it.

enjoy the summer, 'cause after november, you'll have to go to Illinois to see him. and that costs more to do now, thanks to your dem congress.

Um...seriously...WHAT???

Ace Frehley's Ghost: Wow, that's good. The republicans have nominated a "maverick" who has his head so far up Dubya's ass he can tell you what George had for breakfast, but based on the FISA vote, Obama is an "unqualified fraud."

It is the only thing they have left. They can't be proud of Uncle McCain so the next best thing is tear his opponent, classic GOP response.

/Enjoy seeing the freepers froth at the mouth over Obama, their tears just fuel me.

EsteeFlwrPot: I dont know much about this shiat but common sense tells me he should have removed the provision and then approved the bill, not the other way around. Now we're all farked and he's trying to remove a part of something that was already approved. Someone please tell me if im missing something.

You will be interested in who voted and how ^ on amendments as the bill became law.

Note that the Dodd amendment was a move to strike Title II from the bill, which was the immunity provision, in its entirety. The other amendments would have limited immunity as well.

I actually rather enjoyed looking up all this the other day - it is the sort of question where you want to examine the record yourself, not have anybody else portray it for you.

captain_napalm: Obama's ENTIRE record and history make him a fraud. the FISA thing further demonstrates how his SUPPORTERS are frauds.

....and MORE you CAPITALIZE the more CONVINCING your argument is!!!1!

captain_napalm: there you go, problem solved! obama supporters may again feel free to send ten ignorant friends and the guy/girl down the hall you're farking this week off to vote for this perfect nubian god.

That's just dumb. Abolishing your support for a candidate on a single issue, while he still, overall, represents your beliefs and/or ideology is non-sensical.

Obama is a horrible choice for many reasons, and this is certainly one of them, but to gauge your support solely on this single issue would be dumb.

Lionel Mandrake: ....and MORE you CAPITALIZE the more CONVINCING your argument is!!!1!

it's called emphasis. perhaps I should have underlined? obama's most recent fun away from his whackjob base certainly underlines how much he's used you.

captain_napalm: EsteeFlwrPot: I would be drooling at the thought of Obama lifting weights and talking about his plan to lower taxes for the middle class, but i'm mad at him for his shinanegans this past week.

you'll still vote for him, though. which is why he knows he can get away with it.

Yeah, because if 2000 and Bush taught people anything it's that "The lesser evil can be WAY lesser."

And Barrack still isn't evil IMO. He's not as good as he was, but he's still riding over the line. The kind of shiat the Republicans could pull with one more Supreme Court appointment is downright frightening.

sarcastrophe: Obama is a horrible choice for many reasons, and this is certainly one of them, but to gauge your support solely on this single issue would be dumb.

perhaps - but how many times does obama have to abandon his base before y'all realize that he played you for fools?

captain_napalm: obama's most recent fun away from his whackjob base certainly underlines how much he's used you.

Thank you for your concern, Cap'n, but I do not feel used in the least. I feel sorry that you have such a ridiculous view of an Obama supporter, but I do understand that there really are people that hold ridiculous views of how awesome Obama is. There are also people with equally ridiculous views of just how many such people actually exist. In their ridiculous view, everyone who supports Obama is some star-struck political neophyte who expects Obama to make everything perfect. This gross over generalization makes them just as idiotic as the few Obamaniacs who actually view Barack as some sort of Messiah.

YOU sir, are just such an idiot.

Lionel Mandrake: captain_napalm: Obama's ENTIRE record and history make him a fraud. the FISA thing further demonstrates how his SUPPORTERS are frauds.

....and MORE you CAPITALIZE the more CONVINCING your argument is!!!1!

CAPS LOCK: CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME.

captain_napalm: sarcastrophe: Obama is a horrible choice for many reasons, and this is certainly one of them, but to gauge your support solely on this single issue would be dumb.

perhaps - but how many times does obama have to abandon his base before y'all realize that he played you for fools?

Obviously you don't understand American politics, during the primaries they pander to their base and as the GE comes along they move to the center to attract the independents.

/since when has becoming a moderate a bad thing???

captain_napalm: perhaps - but how many times does obama have to abandon his base before y'all realize that he played you for fools?

Other than this... and the re-authorization of the PATRIOT Act (which Obama supporters tend to ignore), how many other times has he abandoned his base?

SeismicJizzer: Obviously you don't understand American politics, during the primaries they pander to their base and as the GE comes along they move to the center to attract the independents.

/since when has becoming a moderate a bad thing???

I don't see moving to a more authoritarian position as a good thing. It makes him a worse choice than he was previously.

SeismicJizzer: /since when has becoming a moderate a bad thing???

he's not BECOMING anything. he's lying through his teeth to fool low-info voters who won't check him on his BS.

sarcastrophe: Other than this... and the re-authorization of the PATRIOT Act (which Obama supporters tend to ignore), how many other times has he abandoned his base?

the DC gun ban comes to mind. shall we go on, or do you have an intarweb link to refute that, just like all the other arguments have been? /sarc

captain_napalm: the DC gun ban comes to mind. shall we go on, or do you have an intarweb link to refute that, just like all the other arguments have been? /sarc

His base is in full support of a gun ban. He didn't abandon anything with that.

sarcastrophe: captain_napalm: there you go, problem solved! obama supporters may again feel free to send ten ignorant friends and the guy/girl down the hall you're farking this week off to vote for this perfect nubian god.

That's just dumb. Abolishing your support for a candidate on a single issue, while he still, overall, represents your beliefs and/or ideology is non-sensical.

Obama is a horrible choice for many reasons, and this is certainly one of them, but to gauge your support solely on this single issue would be dumb.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

captain_napalm: SeismicJizzer: /since when has becoming a moderate a bad thing???

he's not BECOMING anything. he's lying through his teeth to fool low-info voters who won't check him on his BS.

again what bs? Other than FISA his positions on healthcare, abortion, Iraq, and taxes are the same as they were during the primaries.

sarcastrophe: His base is in full support of a gun ban. He didn't abandon anything with that.

soooo... speaking out in favor of the supreme court's decision wasn't in sharp contrast to, oh, his "many years"* of opposition to guns for self defense?

* - I use "many years" lightly... after all, it IS lightweight obama we're talking about

Xarian: Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

Yes... but unlike captain_napalm, my opinion is based on reality.

SeismicJizzer: his positions on healthcare, abortion, Iraq, and taxes are the same as they were during the primaries.

he's waffled on at least two of those. I'll let you pick which two so we can educate each other and it can become three.

captain_napalm: soooo... speaking out in favor of the supreme court's decision wasn't in sharp contrast to, oh, his "many years"* of opposition to guns for self defense?

* - I use "many years" lightly... after all, it IS lightweight obama we're talking about

I don't think he's changed his views. I still think he wants the ability for a gun ban. I think he's showing respect for the supreme court's decision. But either way, that's hardly a policy shift.