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(BBC) Obvious The BBC has found the first evidence that China is currently helping Sudan's government militarily in Darfur   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 154
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jaylectricity [TotalFark] 2008-07-12 11:42:40 PM  
Janjaweed

Personally, I can not get past that word in the article.

 
skatedrifter [TotalFark] 2008-07-12 11:48:29 PM  
jaylectricity:Janjaweed

Personally, I can not get past that word in the article.


Huh?

 
DrySocket [TotalFark] 2008-07-12 11:52:30 PM  
I smell a boycott!

 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark] 2008-07-12 11:58:39 PM  
BBC to China: HUMAN RIGHTS!!!
China to BBC: Sreriusly? *walks away and nobody does a thing.*

 
co-conspirator [TotalFark] 2008-07-13 12:02:07 AM  
Good thing we've outsourced our diplomatic credibility and our moral authority.

But I'm sure we will have some sort of leverage with a country that now owns so much of our debt.

 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark] 2008-07-13 12:04:26 AM  
co-conspirator:Good thing we've outsourced our diplomatic credibility and our moral authority.

But I'm sure we will have some sort of leverage with a country that now owns so much of our debt.


How much leverage does Lenny the bus driver who owes Johnny the Hammer 30 large have?

 
gilgigamesh 2008-07-13 12:06:43 AM  
There is no oil.

I suspect we will proceed with a strongly worded letter in response.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2008-07-13 12:10:51 AM  
And why aren't the China Olympics being internationally boycotted?

 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark] 2008-07-13 12:12:04 AM  
GAT_00:And why aren't the China Olympics being internationally boycotted?

They own the world. It's like the company picnic... they take roll call too. I hear the dutch are trying to sneak out to smoke dope under the bleachers.

 
Con_Authority [TotalFark] 2008-07-13 12:32:34 AM  
The US just held an economic "summit" with China, in Annapolis, to beg them to lift the artificial devaluation of their currency, to improve OUR economy.

We're farked...

 
baka-san [TotalFark] 2008-07-13 12:35:52 AM  
All I can say is, gonna be a fun Olympics.

 
Rich-Hobo 2008-07-13 12:36:23 AM  
"In other news, connection between the KKK and the Taliban have been confirmed..."

 
kilgorn 2008-07-13 12:36:28 AM  
Well paint my ass red and
hang me in the county square...

 
skinink 2008-07-13 12:36:58 AM  
And China tells the U.S. to shut up, or they might cash in all their bonds early and call in all their loans to America.

 
JJFerret 2008-07-13 12:37:33 AM  
gilgigamesh:There is no oil.

I suspect we will proceed with a strongly worded letter in response.



Yes there is. It's just that we aren't in a position to take advantage of it at the moment. China is and is doing so.

 
Rethorn 2008-07-13 12:40:22 AM  
Have I mentioned how much I hate humanity? Bunch of lazy, fat ass, spineless, worthless sacks of parasitic flesh we are.

 
chu2dogg 2008-07-13 12:40:40 AM  
And China tells the U.S. to shut up, or they might cash in all their bonds early and call in all their loans to America.

yeah bro.. which we then go ahead and cancel... and remove half of our debt

 
Spud Boy 2008-07-13 12:41:14 AM  
China has figured out that Africa is the next outsourcing goldmine. Everyone else in the west thinks that Africans are too backwards to build factories and work in them. The Chinese are already moving several production facilities to Africa.

 
Mauvais Voisin 2008-07-13 12:41:16 AM  
co-conspirator:Good thing we've outsourced our diplomatic credibility and our moral authority.

But I'm sure we will have some sort of leverage with a country that now owns so much of our debt.


In some weird perverse (and counter-intuitive) way, I somehow think that we'd have the last laugh on the Chinese if we decided, y'know, just out of the blue to default on the debt. All of their 'investment' in the US disappears in an instant.

 
H_is_for_Heretic 2008-07-13 12:41:17 AM  
jaylectricity:Janjaweed

Personally, I can not get past that word in the article.


I'm glad for me it hasn't become synonymous with unbelievable suffering. (till I get emphysema) Seriously, that's gotta be the least funny thing on the planet right now.
Are they saving up some dirt to release right before the Olympics, like with elections?

GAT_00:And why aren't the China Olympics being internationally boycotted?
It's been discussed, I personally just couldn't be the one to tell these athletes they'd wasted their lives training.

 
Blue Summer Union 2008-07-13 12:41:30 AM  
BBC = Breaking Balls of China"

O wait, that's good right?

/carry on

 
Gothmolly 2008-07-13 12:42:56 AM  
Chink thread !

 
GratuityIncluded 2008-07-13 12:42:57 AM  
This thread is a real economics lesson. I knew it was a mistake going to college.

 
Jeff_from_MD 2008-07-13 12:43:09 AM  
subby might be distorting the facts a tad. China's already admitted it engaged in arms trade as per prior contracts a while back, which explains why the article's evidence are of military items all 2-5 years dated.

 
FormlessOne 2008-07-13 12:44:50 AM  
skinink:And China tells the U.S. to shut up, or they might cash in all their bonds early and call in all their loans to America.

Pretty much. Besides, it's hard for us to take the high road on human rights when we've tortured hundreds, if not more, for half a decade now. Britain can, and probably will, press the issue - but get nowhere, as they're practically in our pocket.

The fun part is that we kind of started the whole "hey, let's just ignore the UN thing because we're a superpower." Whenever someone else does something, well, it's the UN's fault when they don't immediately respond and slap them down - when we do something, we threaten to pull out of the UN if they even think about slapping us down. China's figured this out, too - it's hard to have the pot call the kettle black on this one.

 
kilgorn 2008-07-13 12:46:07 AM  
Rethorn
Have I mentioned how much I hate humanity? Bunch of lazy, fat ass, spineless, worthless sacks of parasitic flesh we are.

The optimists club called, they want you...

 
Valarius 2008-07-13 12:49:12 AM  
Example 1:

The BBC was also told that China was training fighter pilots who fly Chinese A5 Fantan fighter jets in Darfur.


Example 2:

The rebels filmed a second lorry with the BBC's camera. Both vehicles had been carrying anti-aircraft guns, one a Chinese gun.

Markings showed that they were from a batch of 212 Dong Feng army lorries that the UN had traced as having arrived in Sudan after the arms embargo was put in place.

The lorries came straight from the factory in China to Sudan and were consigned to Sudan's defence ministry. The guns were mounted after the lorries were imported from China.



Wait a second. China is playing both sides?

 
Valarius 2008-07-13 12:50:49 AM  
Pretty much. Besides, it's hard for us to take the high road on human rights when we've tortured hundreds, if not more, for half a decade now. Britain can, and probably will, press the issue - but get nowhere, as they're practically in our pocket.

France needs to step up. Half the continent already speaks some dialect of French to begin with; it's not as though the Foreign Legion would be working blind and deaf.

 
Lusiphur 2008-07-13 12:52:26 AM  
I'm for a 10% tax increase across the board, used only to pay off Chinese debt. It's the only way we'll ever get our economy back to where it should be.

 
falser 2008-07-13 12:53:40 AM  
Thanks BBC for exposing this travesty! Now that this information has been exposed the crisis in Darfur can end, and life there can return to normalcy.

/end sarcasm
//sick of people reporting about Sudan but nothing being done about it
///I mean someone else should do something about it, not me

 
JohnCougarMelonhead 2008-07-13 12:53:42 AM  
"They found a Chinese Dong..."

Ok, now I'm really ticked off!

 
fernandez 2008-07-13 12:54:24 AM  
baka-san:All I can say is, gonna be a fun Olympics.

That bears repeating

 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark] 2008-07-13 12:54:38 AM  
Valarius:Wait a second. China is playing both sides?

img73.imageshack.us

 
co-conspirator [TotalFark] 2008-07-13 12:56:54 AM  
Mauvais Voisin:In some weird perverse (and counter-intuitive) way, I somehow think that we'd have the last laugh on the Chinese if we decided, y'know, just out of the blue to default on the debt. All of their 'investment' in the US disappears in an instant.

I can not see any way in which publicly demonstrating that we are a dangerously unreliable place to invest could work out well for us. It seems more likely that would be an economic self-throat-slitting move.

 
stirfrybry 2008-07-13 12:57:24 AM  
Gothmolly:Chink thread !

img360.imageshack.us

 
The Ghost of Abe Vigoda's Ghost 2008-07-13 12:58:16 AM  
Oh noes, national self interest is being pursued.

Let's then logically move to indict presidents McKinley, F. Roosevelt-Bush (2) on the same grounds of indirectly supporting internal wars for our own national interest.

Likewise to the Soviets in the Warsaw Pact bloc.

If we take voting with dollars as a metric about how much people actually care about this, I'd say that most Americans would prefer cheap goods to political action on this issue.

 
havingfun 2008-07-13 12:59:09 AM  
I think this deserved an interesting tag and not an obvious one, personally.

 
H_is_for_Heretic 2008-07-13 12:59:10 AM  
fernandez:baka-san:All I can say is, gonna be a fun Olympics.

That bears repeating

janjaweedbears repeating?
www.therudenews.com
www.therudenews.com
/didn't i say Darfur wasn't funny?

 
mama's_tasty_foods 2008-07-13 12:59:26 AM  
gilgigamesh:There is no oil.

I suspect we will proceed with a strongly worded letter in response.


Yeah, a paltry "500,000 b/d, having doubled its volumes in just two years."

 
stirfrybry 2008-07-13 01:00:34 AM  
Lusiphur:I'm for a 10% tax increase across the board, used only to pay off Chinese debt. It's the only way we'll ever get our economy back to where it should be.


lol

 
LargeCanine 2008-07-13 01:00:48 AM  
Darfur can only be resolved by the application of US military force. Anyone who doesn't support intervention and the commensurate increases in US defense spending and expansion and long term occupatio is not serious about doing anything for Darfur.

 
Befuddled 2008-07-13 01:02:08 AM  
Damn, I bet this is the final straw that gets Europe and the other first worlders besides the US to send military forces to Africa to stop all this. Then monkeys will fly from my butt.

 
shadow9 2008-07-13 01:02:22 AM  
oh... dont worry guys, its just a preemptive strike, you see, all of those trucks are painted with LEAD paint. in a few years the sudanese will rue the day they crossed the chinese! their next plan involves selling them bridges.

oh, fine, im boycotting the olympics. yep, thats right, totally not going. whos with me!?

 
fernandez 2008-07-13 01:05:58 AM  
H_is_for_Heretic:didn't i say Darfur wasn't funny?


Take away its horror and you take away its power


/unfortunately, its power should be kept until somebody does something

 
LargeCanine 2008-07-13 01:07:26 AM  
shadow9:oh... dont worry guys, its just a preemptive strike, you see, all of those trucks are painted with LEAD paint. in a few years the sudanese will rue the day they crossed the chinese! their next plan involves selling them bridges.

oh, fine, im boycotting the olympics. yep, thats right, totally not going. whos with me!?


Me too. I am totally not watching either... but that is because Olympics coverage blows. Tape delay, inane pundits jabbering incessantly instead of showing us the action, entire events not covered, the list goes on. It might be different this time. Lessons might have been learned from past crappy coverage, but I don't believe it, and have lost interest.

 
moondo 2008-07-13 01:08:01 AM  
lol. like european countries and the US never funded countries for wars.

 
Koichi 2008-07-13 01:08:34 AM  
gilgigamesh:There is no oil.

I suspect we will proceed with a strongly worded letter in response.


www.loldjs.com

Oil - production(bbl/day)

China 3,730,000 Rank 7 in the world

Sudan 397,000 Rank 34 in the world

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2173rank.h tml

/the important thing is that you tried

 
Aar1012 [TotalFark] 2008-07-13 01:09:41 AM  
LargeCanine:Me too. I am totally not watching either... but that is because Olympics coverage blows

I haven't actually watched the Olympics since 1996 and that was the opening ceremony and the bombing coverage

 
Andric 2008-07-13 01:10:12 AM  
Rethorn:Have I mentioned how much I hate humanity? Bunch of lazy, fat ass, spineless, worthless sacks of parasitic flesh we are.

Did you cut yourself before or after posting this?

 
rackrent [TotalFark] 2008-07-13 01:11:10 AM  
Gothmolly:Chink thread !

The Chinaman is not the issue here, dude.

 
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