Something very similar happened to me a few years back as I was landing in Detroit. Our plane was within a few feet of touching down when suddenly it accelerated very quickly and it seemed we were going straight up. After we leveled off, the pilot said we did a "something" maneuver ( I forget the name) because there was a plane already on the runway.

CruiserTwelve:the pilot said we did a "something" maneuver ( I forget the name) because there was a plane already on the runway.

"Noise abatement." Because when two planes hit, it makes a heck of a lot of noise.

CruiserTwelve:...... After we leveled off, the pilot said we did a "something" maneuver ( I forget the name) because there was a plane already on the runway.

Saving our asses maneuver....

Golf clap for the headline

You can land a million planes safely, but have one little mid-air and you never hear the end of it.

starsrift:You can land a million planes safely, but have one little mid-air and you never hear the end of it.

Someone would hear the end of it, just not anyone on the aircraft.

Brown said the two aircraft were more than a half mile away from each other and weren't at the same altitude.

Not a pilot... but what is the issue?

Half mile you say, PFFFFTTT.

On Friday afternoon, the FAA ordered changes to the way takeoffs and landings on perpendicular runways are sequenced so "aircraft of one runway clear out of the path of the other runway before the second flight comes down," Brown told The Associated Press.

You mean they weren't doing this before?

I can't wait to hear what Patrick Smith says about this once his head is done exploding.

co-conspirator You owe me a new keyboard, monitor, and kitchen backsplash.

/I will not drink coffee while reading Fark, I will not drink coffee while reading Fark, I will not drink coffee while reading Fark . . .

berylman:Brown said the two aircraft were more than a half mile away from each other and weren't at the same altitude.

Not a pilot... but what is the issue?

Not a pilot either, but I'd guess that the half-mile horizontally is not such a great distance when the planes are moving at hundreds of MPH and the 300 vertical feet difference is also not much because it's an airport runway and thus one or both planes are ascending or descending...

Cue the Airplane! movie quotes and images in gate 4....Gate 3... gate 2..

/looks like I picked the wrong week for quitting bad humor

I see what you did there.

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is we will be landing sooner than expected. The bad news is it will be a little rough.

After we leveled off, the pilot said we did a "something" maneuver ( I forget the name) because there was a plane already on the runway.

It's called a "go around" and is a standard (and reasonably safe) procedure when an approach cannot be safely completed for any reason. Usually the pilot will politely tell the pax about having to execute a missed approach due to traffic control, but sometimes if you are in the right spot in the plane you can clearly see yourself zooming over a plane that would have been where you were landing.

Busy airports with not much runway, and/or complicated and crossed runways, are really bad for go-arounds (which are a little unsettling). Flying a lot into Midway, Detroit, Washington National, etc. raises your chances of experiencing some of these. Almost never happens at Atlanta or DFW or other big airports with long, widely separated, parallel runways.

serjohn:Cue the Airplane! movie quotes and images in gate 4....Gate 3... gate 2..

/looks like I picked the wrong week for quitting bad humor

I am currently watching "Turbulence" on TNT. It is almost as funny as Airplane!

Am I the only one who chuckled at the "Don't Miss" section of the web page?

Turbulence quote-

"How can she turn the flight around? She is on;y a stewardess."

"She is a FLIGHT attendant."

I'm flying Delta into Atlanta in two weeks.

/hate flying
//This does not help

I've seen an airplane and I've played Starfox on Nintendo 64 so I think this qualifies me to comment on this incident.

There was no real danger. If this were a real problem our government would be right on top of it putting in a brand new state of the art nation wide air traffic control system.

Subby didn't read his/her own article, the planes were half a mile apart horizontally. 300 feet was the vertical distance between them.

Most people seem to think if there's a go around they're pulling up at a dangerously steep angle but it really isn't. The suddenness of the maneuver combined with human tendency to perceive slopes as being a lot steeper than they are is the main factor.

Brown said the two aircraft were more than a half mile away from each other and weren't at the same altitude.

National Air Traffic Controllers Association JFK Tower Facility representative Barrett Byrnes, however, said the two planes came within 600 feet of each other.

The National Air Traffic Controllers Association said that although the flights crossed paths, there was a vertical distance of 100 feet between them. The FAA said the planes were 300 vertical feet apart and half a mile apart horizontally.

So who do we believe here? The union or someone named Brown who works for a Bush-era federal agency?

PATS0707:I'm flying Delta into Atlanta in two weeks.

May God go with you and hold you in His hand during this trying time.

Unless you're a non-believer, in which case you're on your own.

Half a mile sounds like a lot of room, but then again these planes are flying at 350 mph or so, or 500 feet a second.

If two planes half a mile apart happened to be heading right at each other, they would collide in less than 3 seconds.

Not really enough time to react, even, much less put your tray table up and your seat in the full upright position, which would of course solve everything.

At least this is intentional...

Flashman73:berylman:Brown said the two aircraft were more than a half mile away from each other and weren't at the same altitude.

Not a pilot... but what is the issue?

Not a pilot either, but I'd guess that the half-mile horizontally is not such a great distance when the planes are moving at hundreds of MPH and the 300 vertical feet difference is also not much because it's an airport runway and thus one or both planes are ascending or descending...

Yeah, there was some kind of screw up here, I'm guessing by Air Traffic Control. There wasn't sufficient separation to allow the Delta flight to continue the approach after clearing the Comair flight for take off on the perpendicular runway (TFA). However, it could have been the Flight Crew not maintaining an ATC assigned speed to make it all work, or the Comair flight could have taken their sweet arse time lining up to Take Off.

Go arounds are normal and crews are highly trained in the maneuver. As aerojockey said, it feels steeper than it is because of an inner ear illusion called somatogravic effect (new window).

/How do you know there is a pilot at a party?
//They tell you.
///Pilot

tehotherbilly:I've seen an airplane and I've played Starfox on Nintendo 64 so I think this qualifies me to comment on this incident.

There was no real danger. If this were a real problem our government would be right on top of it putting in a brand new state of the art nation wide air traffic control system.


Not true. Our government is just waiting for a really big crash that had some Senator's daughter on it. Then they will declare War on Air Traffic or some such and actually get around to trying to fix the problem. They will sort of succeed and mostly fail. It will be expensive.

I can see why.

/I kid. I think she lost weight recently, and became an obsessive-compulsive hoarder.

Flight 405 (new window)

That's alarming.

At the speed those things go, 300 ft. is squeeeee! time.

You can part a guy's hair from 300 ft.

/ I have a theory. The ideal number of letters to repeat for onomatopoeic effect is five, as in Mmmmm! There are a number of exceptions, usually for comic effect or when quoting comics.

buzzvert:I can see why.

/I kid. I think she lost weight recently, and became an obsessive-compulsive hoarder.

I came here for this, and I thank you.

/so heavy she takes out TWO planes? Time to call in Major Dad.

/Not impressed

For some reason I'm reminded of that crappy made for TV, based on a true story movie "The Ghost of Flight 401".

"When two planes almost collide, they call it a near miss. IT'S A NEAR HIT! A collision is a near miss. POOOF, look, they nearly missed. YES, BUT NOT QUITE!!!" - George Calin

/Thanks funny man for many laughs

http://themainbang.typepad.com/blog/2008/07/hello-old-frien.html

ATC webpage where the truth is spoken.

I'm glad they waited till today, I just flew Delta yesterday.

Linkhttp://themainbang.typepad.com/blog/2008/07/hello-old-frien.html

try again with link

meh.

dougfm:Subby didn't read his/her own article, the planes were half a mile apart horizontally. 300 feet was the vertical distance between them.

How dare you de-sensationalize the headline!!!!

If they weren't (still) overcrowding the skies they could just delay any take-offs from the perpendicular runway until the landing plane was past any chance for a go-around. Real simple - but it means a few less planes take off every day.

I blame this on the FAA, and ATC.

but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades

I just wanted to tell you both, good luck, we're all counting on you

The FAA said the planes were 300 vertical feet apart and half a mile apart horizontally.

apparently subby failed trigonometry.

Delta farking sucks. On the way back from doing volunteer work in New Orleans, they canceled the flight my group had scheduled to save themselves some dough. we had to reschedule, which meant waiting at the airport for another 3 hours before the next flight took off. And this new flight wasn't direct to New York like original that we had paid for. This included a transfer in Ohio with about an hour layover.

I spent about an hour on the phone with various representatives. I was very polite (as I understand it is not the individual's fault) but I was treated VERY indignantly - transfered to non-existing extensions, hung up on, etc.

So I look around the terminal for a customer service booth. Can't find one. So I wait on the baggage check line. I get to the handler, finally.

"I would like to speak to someone in customer service."

"What's that?"

"Customer service - you know, the place where you go when you're not happy about something and want to talk to someone about it."

"Oh, we don't have that here."

"I'm not surprised. Can I speak to a supervisor or something?"

I wait on another line and finally talk to a woman who looks right through me and doesn't even respond to what I'm saying.

"Hello, are you listening?"

She mumbles that she is printing meal vouchers.

But my flight is leaving in just a few minutes at this point. I have to rush through security and the woman meets me right before I get on the plane to give me my $7 meal voucher.

Finally, we touch down in Ohio and I'm starving. Except it's the weekend, and by now it's after hours, so almost none of the eateries are open. Couldn't spend the voucher on booze, either.

I eventually got a $7 salad and threw in the towel.

Delta farking sucks.

FootInMouthDisease:The FAA said the planes were 300 vertical feet apart and half a mile apart horizontally.

apparently subby failed trigonometry.

Apparently you fail to see the humor in the headline.

How sad for you.

zippyZRX - Struck a nerve did i? maybe math isnt your strong point...

It's ok don't take it personally, the only thing worthwhile that comes from the shiat hole that is western kentucky are the Corvettes at Bowling Green.

Commercial aircraft colliding isn't particularly amusing.

/good luck with that GED Jethro.