Because of the youtubes

If I could summarize the article it seems like they're saying Hillary lost because she tried to be a man, baby.

god that's sad. for everyone involved.

Is it because she's a shrill, soul-less, unlikable harpy?

I Said:Because of the youtubes

our politicians and their (lack of) understanding of basic technology scare the shiat out of me.

Ha ha ha ha, the media basically coronated Obama. They forced Clinton out of the race and they stuck us Dems with a lemon for a nominee.

Media sexism was responsible. Media hatred of the Clintons was responsible.

If only we had ways to hold the media accountable.

Katie98_KT:If I could summarize the article it seems like they're saying Hillary lost because she tried to be a man, baby.

god that's sad. for everyone involved.

Really? Someone thought this would work for Hilldog?

Katie98_KT:I Said:Because of the youtubes

our politicians and their (lack of) understanding of basic technology scare the shiat out of me.

It's a farking nightmare.

The internet has revolutionized EVERYTHING and these people don't even use it.

But hey, at least the Telecom lobbyists know what they're talking about, so we're all good, right?

I Said:It's a farking nightmare.

The internet has revolutionized EVERYTHING and these people don't even use it.

But hey, at least the Telecom lobbyists know what they're talking about, so we're all good, right?

you know, the thing is, legislators OFTEN get their information from lobbyists- and that's not always bad. usually there are two sides to an issue. But who's lobbying AGAINST telecom? people who have time to talk to their congressmen one on one usually aren't any more informed than the congressman is.

You don't understand! I could've been a contender. I could've had class and been president. Real class. Instead of a senator, let's face it, which is what I am. It was you, brilliant, egocentric, hypercompetitive men.

/got nothin'

But Lobbyists are eeeeeevil.. ya know. (Or at least I heard that from a candidate running)

Unlike the Hillaryis44.org nutjobs, who still refuse to concede any ground.

Not All That Much:Katie98_KT:If I could summarize the article it seems like they're saying Hillary lost because she tried to be a man, baby.

god that's sad. for everyone involved.

Really? Someone thought this would work for Hilldog?

its still sad. At least the way the article reads, it says, how dare Hillary try to consider herself a real candidate, "equal to a man". She couldn't act like a real candidate because people were turned off by her acting bullish, considering it manly/unwomanly.

Katie98_KT:you know, the thing is, legislators OFTEN get their information from lobbyists- and that's not always bad. usually there are two sides to an issue. But who's lobbying AGAINST telecom? people who have time to talk to their congressmen one on one usually aren't any more informed than the congressman is.

That's my point. There are small groups trying to lobby against telecoms, but they don't have the purse power (and therefore the ear of the congress) like telecoms do.

I Said:That's my point. There are small groups trying to lobby against telecoms, but they don't have the purse power (and therefore the ear of the congress) like telecoms do.

so. lets form a lobbying group for the common person. its where the Siera club came from, and now its a pretty powerful lobby.

WTF is the picture on that tee shirt? Is that supposed to be Hillary? Has she got a gun in her pocket or is she just happy to see me?

tl;dr version: stupid men world

The media basically applied a tougher standard to Clinton than any other candidate, and that's a fact. A lot of Clinton supporters are still mad at the screwjob their candidate got from Obama and the media.

I remember when Liberals talked about ending discrimination based on gender. Talked about picking the best person for jobs. But when they had the opportunity to pick between a qualified woman and an unqualified man. The Democratic party establishment picked the unqualified man.

If that's not a huge FU to people who argue for gender equality, what is?

Troll:Ha ha ha ha, the media basically coronated Obama.

I hate feeding you guys, but I just have to say: O RLY? Because it gives everyone a fresh opportunity to laugh at your foolishness.

/the good stuff starts at 4:05

Hint: It wasn't "The Media." Not after a year solid of "she's inevitable" coverage.

McCainDemocrat:Ha ha ha ha, the media basically coronated Obama. They forced Clinton out of the race and they stuck us Dems with a lemon for a nominee.

Media sexism was responsible. Media hatred of the Clintons was responsible.

If only we had ways to hold the media accountable.

danlpoon, there's no takebacks on your "you guys" comment yesterday concerning Democrats nominating Obama.

*facepalm*

The media didn't coronate HRC, Sparky. She was painted as inevitable right up until he shocked people by winning.

Katie98_KT:I Said:That's my point. There are small groups trying to lobby against telecoms, but they don't have the purse power (and therefore the ear of the congress) like telecoms do.

so. lets form a lobbying group for the common person. its where the Siera club came from, and now its a pretty powerful lobby.

Like I said, a few exists:

Example (new window)

They are just at a massive disadvantage right now.

Man. Talk about over-analyzing.

The real question is why did anyone outside themedia and her own campaign think she was a GOOD candidate besides her name recognition?

It's not a question of how she lost, it seems to be more a question of how she came to be considered a viable candidate in the first place.

Voting for the trillion-dollar Iraq War without even reading the intelligence report, and being unapologetic about it to this day??

Doesn't seem to have made the list.

I'm curious why Penn's stratergy of winner take all states, especially CA, is absent from the list.

moops:Unlike the Hillaryis44.org nutjobs, who still refuse to concede any ground.

I hate to ask but i need a laugh what are they up to today....

/blocked from them at work

She lost because she ran. Her campaign was doomed from the start.

Katie98_KT:its still sad. At least the way the article reads, it says, how dare Hillary try to consider herself a real candidate, "equal to a man". She couldn't act like a real candidate because people were turned off by her acting bullish, considering it manly/unwomanly.

Actually I messed up my post. I meant to have any ugly pic of a man dressed up as a woman hotlinked under my line.

Sorry if I came off dickish.

Shostie
Is it because she's a shrill, soul-less, unlikable harpy?

Ya Think!!

McCainDemocrat:Ha ha ha ha, the media basically coronated Obama. They forced Clinton out of the race and they stuck us Dems with a lemon for a nominee.

Media sexism was responsible. Media hatred of the Clintons was responsible.

If only we had ways to hold the media accountable.

Your concern is noted, dan

But Hillary seemed so congenital.

I know why Hillary lost. This guy/girl/thing




/campaign manager anyone?

robsul82:danlpoon, there's no takebacks on your "you guys" comment yesterday concerning Democrats nominating Obama.

You know he is just gonna say that danlpoon is trying to steal his thunder.

Does McCainDemocrat ever jerk 0ff, or is it always danlpoon giving him a handjob?

Ed Finnerty:But Hillary seemed so congenital.

Hehe, genital.

Ed Finnerty:But Hillary seemed so congenital.

lol.

Not All That Much:Does McCainDemocrat ever jerk 0ff, or is it always danlpoon giving him a handjob?

Isn't that the same thing? The question is whether McCainDemocrat sits on his hand to make it fall asleep, and then puts on his danlpoon voice while he jerks himself off.

GoRedSoxGo:Not All That Much:Does McCainDemocrat ever jerk 0ff, or is it always danlpoon giving him a handjob?

Isn't that the same thing? The question is whether McCainDemocrat sits on his hand to make it fall asleep, and then puts on his danlpoon voice while he jerks himself off.

"Yeah, baby, sooooo hot...you will look in the mirror, and see that you are OWNED BY DANLPOON!...oh, God!..."

robsul82:GoRedSoxGo:Not All That Much:Does McCainDemocrat ever jerk 0ff, or is it always danlpoon giving him a handjob?

Isn't that the same thing? The question is whether McCainDemocrat sits on his hand to make it fall asleep, and then puts on his danlpoon voice while he jerks himself off.

"Yeah, baby, sooooo hot...you will look in the mirror, and see that you are OWNED BY DANLPOON!...oh, God!..."

I'm picturing Norman Bates at the very end of Psycho, except with his hand in his pants.

GoRedSoxGo:robsul82:GoRedSoxGo:Not All That Much:Does McCainDemocrat ever jerk 0ff, or is it always danlpoon giving him a handjob?

Isn't that the same thing? The question is whether McCainDemocrat sits on his hand to make it fall asleep, and then puts on his danlpoon voice while he jerks himself off.

"Yeah, baby, sooooo hot...you will look in the mirror, and see that you are OWNED BY DANLPOON!...oh, God!..."

I'm picturing Norman Bates at the very end of Psycho, except with his hand in his pants.

Hopefully without the needless voiceover.

robsul82:GoRedSoxGo:robsul82:GoRedSoxGo:Not All That Much:Does McCainDemocrat ever jerk 0ff, or is it always danlpoon giving him a handjob?

Isn't that the same thing? The question is whether McCainDemocrat sits on his hand to make it fall asleep, and then puts on his danlpoon voice while he jerks himself off.

"Yeah, baby, sooooo hot...you will look in the mirror, and see that you are OWNED BY DANLPOON!...oh, God!..."

I'm picturing Norman Bates at the very end of Psycho, except with his hand in his pants.

Hopefully without the needless voiceover.

Well, replaced by an external monologue. Because you know McPoonocrat talks endlessly to his computer screen.

Well, for one thing, she's an incredibly annoying, vindictive, evil biatch (new window),





...and for another, she's a criminal (new window) (new window).



But don't count her out yet. Obama ain't in the White House and the Clintons lurk and scheme. That's their game - they're grifters on a huge scale.

/Ron Brown (new window)
//Vince Foster (new window)

Not All That Much:

+5, good sir.

Well, that was completely wrong, and utterly sexist. Someone's trying to pin the blame for Hillary's failure on (specifically) Mark Penn, and (generally) men.

Which is interesting, since the majority of Clinton's senior campaign staff
Link (new window)
were women.

But of course, when a woman fails, it's always a man's fault.

Iraq.

I Said:Katie98_KT:I Said:That's my point. There are small groups trying to lobby against telecoms, but they don't have the purse power (and therefore the ear of the congress) like telecoms do.

so. lets form a lobbying group for the common person. its where the Siera club came from, and now its a pretty powerful lobby.

Like I said, a few exists:

Example (new window)

They are just at a massive disadvantage right now.


I interned with the ACLU for a few months last year. They are really passionate about the telecom issue. I can't think of a more straightforward example of a group working "for the people." They get called communists.

fernt:Well, for one thing, she's an incredibly annoying, vindictive, evil biatch

Awww, did the girls in HS not pay enough attention to you, and now you hate women. You anti-Clinton nutjob.

McCainDemocrat:fernt:Well, for one thing, she's an incredibly annoying, vindictive, evil biatch

Awww, did the girls in HS not pay enough attention to you, and now you hate women. You anti-Clinton nutjob.

Says the guy who has to alternate between two screennames because his trolling doesn't get enough attention on just one.

McCainDemocrat

Ha ha ha ha, the media basically coronated Obama. They forced Clinton out of the race and they stuck us Dems with a lemon for a nominee.

a) You are not a Democrat, so please stop referring to yourself as one. A Democrat would never vote for McCain over Obama or Clinton. If you were unhappy with the Democratic choice, you would write in your own choice, not vote for the polar goddamn opposite.
b) Obama consistently polls over McCain. That is not the definition of a lemon. If you were a Democrat, you would be happy about this.
c) Name one issue that the media hounded on against Clinton more than "GOD DAMN AMERICA", flag pins, or "for the first time in my life, I'm proud of the United States." Hint: the answer is not snipers or Ferrarro.
d) the media had nothing to do with forcing Clinton out of the race. Jesus, CNN had headlines after Clinton took Puerto Rico talking about momentum.

Media sexism was responsible. Media hatred of the Clintons was responsible.

a) Sexism played about as much of a role as did racism.
b) The Clintons were LOVED at the beginning of this race. They were hated by the end of it. There is a logical conclusion here and I'll let you figure it out for yourself.

Both Clintons blew it. Hillary spent her time attacking her opponents, rather than talking about why she should be elected. Bill shot his mouth off a few too many times and Hillary paid the price. She had absolutely everything going for her going into the race, but she spent a year trashing the competition rather than being positive. If Clinton's approach to the primaries had been the same as Obama's, we'd all be practicing saying "President Clinton 2" right now. But no, she blew it and blew it monumentally.